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11-18-2018, 09:42 PM
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SPFGA Update - holsters & steel core now banned
The SPFGA Executive voted at the November meeting to prohibit holster use effective immediately. Excepted from this prohibition are black powder pistols, cowboy action shooting, and uniformed law enforcement personnel.
Additionally, effective September 1, 2019, steel core ammunition will be banned from all SPFGA ranges. A delay has been implemented to this prohibition to allow members to deplete steel core ammunition they may have already purchased.
If there are concerns or questions regarding this, please contact us at rifle@spfga.ca.
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11-18-2018, 09:57 PM
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Not part of the club but I am curious as to why Holster use is prohibited?
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11-18-2018, 10:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lannie
Not part of the club but I am curious as to why Holster use is prohibited?
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Hi lannie - please go ahead and contact rifle@spfga.ca regarding that.
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11-19-2018, 07:55 AM
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Gotta admit, in the near 10 years I've been a member the only people I've seen using holsters are the aforementioned blackpowder/action shooters and the LE teams when they book a range.
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11-19-2018, 08:17 AM
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Surprised no exemption for IPSC.
No IPSC members? or just not enough to care?
(I am not a SPFGA member either)
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11-19-2018, 08:36 AM
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Back when the Olds range was open, they prohibited holster use except for current and former police officers. They said that they are the only ones that are properly trained to carry a handgun in a holster......balderdash! If a non LEO takes the holster course, what is the problem?
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11-19-2018, 09:19 AM
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good thing i'm black badge
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11-19-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fish_e_o
good thing i'm black badge
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So is every IPSC member but he didn't say that was an exception .....
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11-19-2018, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by darren32
So is every IPSC member but he didn't say that was an exception .....
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i would say black badge would take precedence
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11-19-2018, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fish_e_o
i would say black badge would take precedence
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I regret to report that it does not. If you are a member fish_e_o, I encourage you to contact us at rifle@spfga.ca for more information.
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11-19-2018, 12:18 PM
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No holsters? What about someone taking their proof of proficiency test for an ATC?
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11-19-2018, 12:40 PM
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What about LEO’s working in a plainclothes capacity? Seems odd to have handgun range but not allowed to wear a holster? Rather than replying to a pm, maybe explain the rationale so people can understand it. It could definitely influence a persons decision to apply for a membership or not.
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11-19-2018, 12:48 PM
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Why is it always SPFGA that seems to be making headlines for having the strictest rules? There was a time I had submitted an application to the range but now I'm glad I was denied because the range had already reached capacity. Starting to sound like that place is under communist rule.
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11-19-2018, 12:51 PM
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Gotta keep the wanna-be "operators" and SKS crowds out somehow I guess.
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11-19-2018, 12:52 PM
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I am a member. Don't ever use a holster. Just got the notice from the club. Am not for or against the new rule but in any club with elected executive I think it is important to provide the rational for why decisions are being made that affect the membership. A tersely worded notice is not sufficient and reflects poorly on leadership. I do plan to talk to a couple of people about this poor style of communication.
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Holster Use Prohibited
The SPFGA Executive voted at the November meeting to prohibit holster use effective immediately. Exempted from this prohibition are black powder pistols, cowboy action shooting, and uniformed law enforcement personnel.
Additionally, effective September 1, 2019, steel core ammunition will be banned from all SPFGA ranges. A delay has been implemented to this prohibition to allow members to deplete steel core ammunition they may have already purchased.
If there are concerns or questions regarding this, please contact us at rifle@spfga.ca.
Regards,
The SPFGA Executive
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11-19-2018, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AI 6.5
What about LEO’s working in a plainclothes capacity?
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not allowed at spfga
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11-19-2018, 01:16 PM
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Are people shooting themselves in the foot/leg? What could be the possible rational behind this?
I don't own a holster, so am kinda asking from left field.
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11-19-2018, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ren008
Gotta keep the wanna-be "operators" and SKS crowds out somehow I guess.
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we should all group together and rage quit
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11-19-2018, 01:49 PM
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Our range banned holsters a few years ago I just assumed they don't want any John Wick imitators shooting themselves in the foot or my foot.
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11-19-2018, 01:55 PM
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When not in use, handguns belong in holsters.
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11-19-2018, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean2
I am a member. Don't ever use a holster. Just got the notice from the club. Am not for or against the new rule but in any club with elected executive I think it is important to provide the rational for why decisions are being made that affect the membership. A tersely worded notice is not sufficient and reflects poorly on leadership. I do plan to talk to a couple of people about this poor style of communication.
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That falls entirely on my head, Dean. Please feel free to contact me at website@spfga. I would be happy to talk with you.
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11-19-2018, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RolHammer
That falls entirely on my head, Dean. Please feel free to contact me at webchair@spfga. I would be happy to talk with you.
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Just curious, why would you post this topic on a public forum then ask people to contact you privately? I realize only SPFGA members are entitled to the reasoning but if there is going to be no discussion publicly it makes no sense, members were notified privately. 
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11-19-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
Just curious, why would you post this topic on a public forum then ask people to contact you privately? I realize only SPFGA members are entitled to the reasoning but if there is going to be no discussion publicly it makes no sense, members were notified privately. |
It’s an important matter & we wanted to be sure we’d reached as many members as quickly as possible.
It’s unorthodox I’ll admit, but getting the information about the change out was important enough to warrant being unorthodox.
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11-19-2018, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RolHammer
It’s an important matter & we wanted to be sure we’d reached as many members as quickly as possible.
It’s unorthodox I’ll admit, but getting the information about the change out was important enough to warrant being unorthodox.
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OK, fair enough, thanks for the reply.
EDIT: It's working, lots of bumps today
Last edited by darren32; 11-19-2018 at 03:25 PM.
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11-19-2018, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fish_e_o
we should all group together and rage quit
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Democratically get on the executive and change things the way the majority wants. Might actually be there now.
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11-19-2018, 03:52 PM
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I remember we couldnt use holsters way back early 1990's at the Phoenix range. Never used any other range so didnt realize it wasnt standard rules for all ranges.
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11-19-2018, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cranky
I remember we couldnt use holsters way back early 1990's at the Phoenix range. Never used any other range so didnt realize it wasnt standard rules for all ranges.
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I know what you are getting at but just for clarity, you can still use holsters at Phoenix, just need black badge.
Thanks
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11-19-2018, 04:55 PM
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At my previous range, no firearms are allowed forward of the firing line, except during special events where a range officer is present. I had to remind a few people, including off duty RCMP officers wearing holstered firearms of this. Oddly enough, I never saw anyone attempt to carry a firearm forward of the firing line, unless it was holstered.
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11-19-2018, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trochu
Are people shooting themselves in the foot/leg? What could be the possible rational behind this?
I don't own a holster, so am kinda asking from left field.
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Being IPSC member don’t remember any of us shoot himself in leg.
From the other hand there were 2 known publicly accidents in 2018 of LEO that shoot themselves in leg.
So it isn’t wise to allow them use holsters either
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