Poacher!!

[wildbill]

So anyway was fly fishin fer walleye on the section of the river between the 509 and cottonwood campground today, and low and behold this guy comes a Rollin down the hill with a huge tackle box and says do mind if I fish upstream, “I says sure whatever man” he’s usin an ultra light with a jig, it almost looked like a minnow (no bait allowed in that stretch) then he catches an eye, I says “what are you usin?” (It seemed he was bein elusive) he says “salted minnows” blew a cog, we’re talkin plant upset here, tunnel vision kill mode, stay calm, count to ten, shaking with anger, long story short i reemed this guy out for a good ten minutes straight can’t even think I’m so ticked off, “oh I let the fish go” wasn’t the answer I was lookin fer, I leave, can’t think straight, take a picture of his license plate, call the hotline, give the nice lady the info, next call from constable so and so, he says “he is actually indeed fishing lawfully” I’m floored, I says “the section between the 509 and Cottonwood has got a bait ban” he says “I’ve had several complaints about the same stretch this morning” I says “the 509 is at Kipp hey?” He says “I’ll look at a map and call you back.”
Ten minutes later he calls and said “you were right” and asked for buddies info, goes to show, the squeaky wheel gets the grease!
And sometimes the learners need learnins!

[Positrac]

Good job. Now go have a Snickers...

[MooseRiverTrapper]

Originally Posted by wildbill

So anyway was fly fishin fer walleye on the section of the river between the 509 and cottonwood campground today, and low and behold this guy comes a Rollin down the hill with a huge tackle box and says do mind if I fish upstream, “I says sure whatever man” he’s usin an ultra light with a jig, it almost looked like a minnow (no bait allowed in that stretch) then he catches an eye, I says “what are you usin?” (It seemed he was bein elusive) he says “salted minnows” blew a cog, we’re talkin plant upset here, tunnel vision kill mode, stay calm, count to ten, shaking with anger, long story short i reemed this guy out for a good ten minutes straight can’t even think I’m so ticked off, “oh I let the fish go” wasn’t the answer I was lookin fer, I leave, can’t think straight, take a picture of his license plate, call the hotline, give the nice lady the info, next call from constable so and so, he says “he is actually indeed fishing lawfully” I’m floored, I says “the section between the 509 and Cottonwood has got a bait ban” he says “I’ve had several complaints about the same stretch this morning” I says “the 509 is at Kipp hey?” He says “I’ll look at a map and call you back.”
Ten minutes later he calls and said “you were right” and asked for buddies info, goes to show, the squeaky wheel gets the grease!
And sometimes the learners need learnins!

Wow I’d hate to see how you deal with a real issue.

[Zip]

Yup..quite the story, but you got your roll in this story a bit wrong. Your roll was to call it in if you felt that need, but to go off on the guy for 10 minutes...well that was wrong, that was up to the guys you called to do! You had no idea what this individuals reaction was going to be towards you..stay safe out there, there's bears as well as bad humans...
Zip

[Chewbacca]

Sounds like you listened to one many episodes of the Champ. Only thing missing was a flurry to the solar plexus.


https://youtu.be/unVLoVq43XI

[Zip]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Sounds like you listened to one many episodes of the Champ. Only thing missing was a flurry to the solar plexus.


https://youtu.be/unVLoVq43XI

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Zip

Yup..quite the story, but you got your roll in this story a bit wrong. Your roll was to call it in if you felt that need, but to go off on the guy for 10 minutes...well that was wrong, that was up to the guys you called to do! You had no idea what this individuals reaction was going to be towards you..stay safe out there, there's bears as well as bad humans...
Zip

Sorry, nope.

The police are the public and the public are the police.

Members of society are in the right to correct others when someone is doing wrong. OP said he told him off. He didn't say he waterboarded him in the river.

He didnt confront someone committing armed robbery, he told a guy off for using a salted minnow. Not exactly a precursor to violent crime.

I can't say I'd handle it the same way he did, but it isn't wrong to confront a problem without running to mom or dad first.

[Zip]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Sorry, nope.

The police are the public and the public are the police.

Members of society are in the right to correct others when someone is doing wrong. OP said he told him off. He didn't say he waterboarded him in the river.

He didnt confront someone committing armed robbery, he told a guy off for using a salted minnow. Not exactly a precursor to violent crime.

I can't say I'd handle it the same way he did, but it isn't wrong to confront a problem without running to mom or dad first.

Well there are a lot of ways to skin a cat, this encounter is a good example, now if going off on a complete stranger for 10 minutes is what a person wants to do...fill your boots, I'm thinking that if that's normal behaviour...the chances of running into a person who will bite back is getting pretty high...like I said it's usually better to stay safe...or just go around yelling at people you don't even know for such a small problem in the real world, I guess that would work as well!
Zip

[Talking moose]

“Can’t think straight”.....”can’t even think I’m so ticked off”...I’m just glad you didn’t melt. Lol!!
Ps
Glad he didn’t keep a fish. You’d still be out there digging his grave....haha
Good job on calling it in though.

[RZR]

Outdoorsmen are such pigs, between poaching and leaving garbage all over the place. Was out yesterday and had to clean up empty beer cans and garbage on shoreline, and this stuff wasn’t washed up on shore either. Then people wonder why the government and the tree huggers want everything closed.

[58thecat]

Just because a person gets off the couch and goes outside, litters, damages areas, breaks laws does not make them an outdoors person....criminal comes to mind.

To the OP good that you got it called in but tact would go a long way...if the hammerhead was a hot head maybe things could have gone real bad real quick.

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by Zip

Well there are a lot of ways to skin a cat, this encounter is a good example, now if going off on a complete stranger for 10 minutes is what a person wants to do...fill your boots, I'm thinking that if that's normal behaviour...the chances of running into a person who will bite back is getting pretty high...like I said it's usually better to stay safe...or just go around yelling at people you don't even know for such a small problem in the real world, I guess that would work as well!
Zip

Yea. But there are people on this forum who think that’s the norm to confront people who are doing the wrong thing, just ask crazy dave

[Zip]

Originally Posted by ram crazy

Yea. But there are people on this forum who think that’s the norm to confront people who are doing the wrong thing, just ask crazy dave

Yes I know these people walk amongst us, but to "ream a person out for 10 minutes and so mad can't think straight"....sometime that will back fire on the OP...then things could get crazy, do people not realize yet that the world has changed a bit for the worse..these days you could meet up with a bad person who would not take a 10 minute reaming out very well...that was my only concern, out there by a stream or River may not be the best place to be yelling at a complete stranger...I would have saved my breath and called it in while he was fishing and waited for the right guys to come in and yell at him..much more satisfying to see a guy get caught red handed than possibly taking one or two on your chin!
Zip

[walleyechaser]

The amount of people who don't read the regs or don't care blows my mind. Usually the same people who complain that they used to be able to keep so many fish in the good ol days.

Quite a few times we have seen guys throwing walleye under their van (for some reason it's always a van). Called them in and never seen the fish and wildlife guys show up. So did the same as you. One Eastern block individual got really offensive at ridge. His significant other told us we have no right to tell them that they cant keep as many fish as they want. As long as they don't waste it, it is theirs to take. At that point you want to make it clear to them, but who knows if they had a gun with them. They packed up and left after making sure to let us know that we were the criminals for interfering with there evening and dinner plans.

Southern alberta is brutal with poachers

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[Sledhead71]

Originally Posted by wildbill

So anyway was fly fishin fer walleye on the section of the river between the 509 and cottonwood campground today, and low and behold this guy comes a Rollin down the hill with a huge tackle box and says do mind if I fish upstream, “I says sure whatever man” he’s usin an ultra light with a jig, it almost looked like a minnow (no bait allowed in that stretch) then he catches an eye, I says “what are you usin?” (It seemed he was bein elusive) he says “salted minnows” blew a cog, we’re talkin plant upset here, tunnel vision kill mode, stay calm, count to ten, shaking with anger, long story short i reemed this guy out for a good ten minutes straight can’t even think I’m so ticked off, “oh I let the fish go” wasn’t the answer I was lookin fer, I leave, can’t think straight, take a picture of his license plate, call the hotline, give the nice lady the info, next call from constable so and so, he says “he is actually indeed fishing lawfully” I’m floored, I says “the section between the 509 and Cottonwood has got a bait ban” he says “I’ve had several complaints about the same stretch this morning” I says “the 509 is at Kipp hey?” He says “I’ll look at a map and call you back.”
Ten minutes later he calls and said “you were right” and asked for buddies info, goes to show, the squeaky wheel gets the grease!
And sometimes the learners need learnins!

You really need some anger management courses...

[stob]

don't poke the bear

[Lowrance Fishburn]

He says. "Salted minnow"...Well I snappppp, lose it. Head fake him with a set of pliers and the idiot goes for it. Flurry to the solar plexus and a stiff uppercut, he's laying there heaped over his giant tackle box. I've got the CO's on speed dial with the phone to my ear, I says "How's that pal? Is that salted minnows enough for ya?"...Ever since I've been THE CHAMP

That's pretty much what I read.

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by Lowrance Fishburn

He says. "Salted minnow"...Well I snappppp, lose it. Head fake him with a set of pliers and the idiot goes for it. Flurry to the solar plexus and a stiff uppercut, he's laying there heaped over his giant tackle box. I've got the CO's on speed dial with the phone to my ear, I says "How's that pal? Is that salted minnows enough for ya?"...Ever since I've been THE CHAMP

That's pretty much what I read.

lol

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Lowrance Fishburn

He says. "Salted minnow"...Well I snappppp, lose it. Head fake him with a set of pliers and the idiot goes for it. Flurry to the solar plexus and a stiff uppercut, he's laying there heaped over his giant tackle box. I've got the CO's on speed dial with the phone to my ear, I says "How's that pal? Is that salted minnows enough for ya?"...Ever since I've been THE CHAMP

That's pretty much what I read.

Bahahahaha!!!! Classic!! Should be your(or wildbill’s) signature line!

[Zip]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Bahahahaha!!!! Classic!! Should be your(or wildbill’s) signature line!

Yes... Lol
Zip

[MooseRiverTrapper]

Originally Posted by Lowrance Fishburn

He says. "Salted minnow"...Well I snappppp, lose it. Head fake him with a set of pliers and the idiot goes for it. Flurry to the solar plexus and a stiff uppercut, he's laying there heaped over his giant tackle box. I've got the CO's on speed dial with the phone to my ear, I says "How's that pal? Is that salted minnows enough for ya?"...Ever since I've been THE CHAMP

That's pretty much what I read.

Lol
Good stuff

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Lowrance Fishburn

He says. "Salted minnow"...Well I snappppp, lose it. Head fake him with a set of pliers and the idiot goes for it. Flurry to the solar plexus and a stiff uppercut, he's laying there heaped over his giant tackle box. I've got the CO's on speed dial with the phone to my ear, I says "How's that pal? Is that salted minnows enough for ya?"...Ever since I've been THE CHAMP

That's pretty much what I read.

Bloody marvellous.

[Freedom55]

Seems ironic that the Lundbreck Falls guy got elevated to hero status for similar behaviour while Wild Bill gets an earful.

[Jigger]

Originally Posted by Freedom55

Seems ironic that the Lundbreck Falls guy got elevated to hero status for similar behaviour while Wild Bill gets an earful.

"blew a cog, we’re talkin plant upset here, tunnel vision kill mode, stay calm, count to ten, shaking with anger, long story short i reemed this guy out for a good ten minutes straight can’t even think I’m so ticked off"

Is this similar behaviour to the lundbreck guy? Nope not even close, lundbreck guy offered to net the fish then quite calmly confronted the poacher. Have you watched the videos? You consider that "similar behaviour? Or just stirring the pot?

[MrDave]

Originally Posted by wildbill

So anyway was fly fishin fer walleye on the section of the river between the 509 and cottonwood campground today, and low and behold this guy comes a Rollin down the hill with a huge tackle box and says do mind if I fish upstream, “I says sure whatever man” he’s usin an ultra light with a jig, it almost looked like a minnow (no bait allowed in that stretch) then he catches an eye, I says “what are you usin?” (It seemed he was bein elusive) he says “salted minnows” blew a cog, we’re talkin plant upset here, tunnel vision kill mode, stay calm, count to ten, shaking with anger, long story short i reemed this guy out for a good ten minutes straight can’t even think I’m so ticked off, “oh I let the fish go” wasn’t the answer I was lookin fer, I leave, can’t think straight, take a picture of his license plate, call the hotline, give the nice lady the info, next call from constable so and so, he says “he is actually indeed fishing lawfully” I’m floored, I says “the section between the 509 and Cottonwood has got a bait ban” he says “I’ve had several complaints about the same stretch this morning” I says “the 509 is at Kipp hey?” He says “I’ll look at a map and call you back.”
Ten minutes later he calls and said “you were right” and asked for buddies info, goes to show, the squeaky wheel gets the grease!
And sometimes the learners need learnins!

Good thing he isn't in Florida, be shot and done.

I know more than a few truly dangerous nuts who go fishing, think first.

[EZM]

Reminds me of Danger Katz ........

[pikeman06]

...and all they found was a jar of salted minnows and a torso.

[wildbill]

And by the way, if the co had actually had actually known that section of river was actually closed and hadn’t been telling people all morning that you were allowed to use bait in that section of river and didn’t have to look at a map for 20 minutes, he more than likely would have caught the guy, I did get the plate make and model of his vehicle. And no I won’t be door mat and stand idle and say nothing, I pick up garbage every time I go out, I believe the land should be respected, if everyone one was coward and relied on co’s who don’t even know the regs themselves, there would be absolutely no deterrent. I guarantee this guy will think twice before he goes poaching again.

[Positrac]

Originally Posted by wildbill

...he says “salted minnows” blew a cog, we’re talkin plant upset here, tunnel vision kill mode, stay calm, count to ten, shaking with anger, long story short i reemed this guy out for a good ten minutes straight can’t even think I’m so ticked off...

You really need to take a pill and calm the hell down...

Your reaction was so over the top I’m pretty sure buddy with the salted minnows just thinks you’re a bit “off” and any opportunity you had to actually get through to him was lost...

Too bad, it was a good opportunity to explain to him the legalities of that section of river. It sounds like there is some confusion by more than just him as to what can be used there.

[Zip]

Originally Posted by wildbill

And by the way, if the co had actually had actually known that section of river was actually closed and hadn’t been telling people all morning that you were allowed to use bait in that section of river and didn’t have to look at a map for 20 minutes, he more than likely would have caught the guy, I did get the plate make and model of his vehicle. And no I won’t be door mat and stand idle and say nothing, I pick up garbage every time I go out, I believe the land should be respected, if everyone one was coward and relied on co’s who don’t even know the regs themselves, there would be absolutely no deterrent. I guarantee this guy will think twice before he goes poaching again.

Wildbill...I would like to say that I bet a lot of people who frequent this forum pick up any garbage they find, and have respect for the land, I know whenever I'm out golfing if I see garbage or cans or whatever..the wife or I pick it up and put it where it belongs.. We also do that when out walking or hiking,or hunting..that I can guarantee you! And now that I'm talking about "guarantees"...your guarantee of that guy thinking twice before he goes poaching again..that's a hollow guarantee...good luck with that and your magical powers of persuasion...your people skills lack a bit of skill!!
Zip