Hunting Suspension

BorealHuntsman · #1 10-21-2019, 12:43 AM

hey so i know of a person who has been suspended for a season, is it illegal for them to tag along and drive a vehicle with a hunter? If he isn’t hunting and has no intentions by not having a rifle or being out on foot with a weapon is that still legal?

ABDUKNUT · #2 10-21-2019, 02:41 AM

Is this another waterfowl outfitting thread?

LKILR · #3 10-21-2019, 06:04 AM

There some interpretation needs to be determined. Is driving a truck participating in the “hunt”? My opinion is it should be ok to drive around in a vehicle. But if they are spotting game then they are participating.

last minute · #4 10-21-2019, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BorealHuntsman

hey so i know of a person who has been suspended for a season, is it illegal for them to tag along and drive a vehicle with a hunter? If he isn’t hunting and has no intentions by not having a rifle or being out on foot with a weapon is that still legal?

Great first post .

I am no legal expert so I won't comment on it being illegal or legal.

krthegunslinger · #5 10-21-2019, 07:38 AM

Been there done that unfortunately. The suspended hunter is not allowed to shoot. Drive truck, push bush etc etc is not actually shooting so not hunting. Participation is allowed.

Lefty-Canuck · #6 10-21-2019, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by krthegunslinger

Been there done that unfortunately. The suspended hunter is not allowed to shoot. Drive truck, push bush etc etc is not actually shooting so not hunting. Participation is allowed.

“Pushing bush” is actually hunting as per the regulations definition. They are best to ask the F&W folks what they can and cannot do. As you can see below many activities outside of “shooting” an animal are considered and defined as “hunting”.

From the Alberta Wildlife Act:

“hunt” means, subject to subsection (6), with reference to a subject animal,
(i) shoot at, harass or worry,
(ii) chase, pursue, follow after or on the trail of, search for, flush, stalk or lie in wait for,
(iii) capture or wilfully injure or kill,
(iv) attempt to capture, injure or kill, or
(v) assist another person to hunt in a manner specified in subclause (i), (ii), (iii) or (iv) while that other person is so hunting;

LC

58thecat · #7 10-21-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

“Pushing bush” is actually hunting as per the regulations definition. They are best to ask the F&W folks what they can and cannot do. As you can see below many activities outside of “shooting” an animal are considered and defined as “hunting”.

From the Alberta Wildlife Act:

“hunt” means, subject to subsection (6), with reference to a subject animal,
(i) shoot at, harass or worry,
(ii) chase, pursue, follow after or on the trail of, search for, flush, stalk or lie in wait for,
(iii) capture or wilfully injure or kill,
(iv) attempt to capture, injure or kill, or
(v) assist another person to hunt in a manner specified in subclause (i), (ii), (iii) or (iv) while that other person is so hunting;

LC

looks black and white to me.....sit it out cuz if your there you are part of all of the above....

pikergolf · #8 10-21-2019, 04:48 PM

I saw the title of the thread and said to myself, I bet he's asking for a friend.

calgarychef · #9 10-21-2019, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BorealHuntsman

hey so i know of a person who has been suspended for a season, is it illegal for them to tag along and drive a vehicle with a hunter? If he isn’t hunting and has no intentions by not having a rifle or being out on foot with a weapon is that still legal?

It might be best for them to sit out the season and think about what a lifetime suspension would feel like.

saskbooknut · #10 10-21-2019, 11:12 AM

X2 on sit it out.
Secondly, asking anyone except a Wildlife official is crazy.
Like getting legal advice on the internet. Oh, that's exactly what this is.

Akoch · #11 10-21-2019, 11:27 AM

Sub clause ii always confused me, literally all of those things are done by wildlife photographers, birders and those types. If weapons or intent don’t factor into whether it’s hunting then could the argument not be made that they would be required to follow all hunting regulations? To me the intent for someone to shoot makes it hunting even if you aren’t the one “hunting”.

Bigwoodsman · #12 10-21-2019, 12:17 PM

I would think if they are driving, pushing bush, running cutlines looking for sign then that would be classed as hunting. If they are sitting in camp, cutting wood, cooking, etc. Then that would be camping.

BW

IAMhunt · #13 10-21-2019, 12:37 PM

If a persons drivers licence is under suspension ?

Wouldn't it be against the law to ride along in a motor vehicle ?

Sportsman · #14 10-21-2019, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BorealHuntsman

hey so i know of a person who has been suspended for a season, is it illegal for them to tag along and drive a vehicle with a hunter? If he isn’t hunting and has no intentions by not having a rifle or being out on foot with a weapon is that still legal?

Assuming you aren’t road hunting, he can ride in the truck and he can also have a firearm with him. He just can’t participate in the hunt as per his licence suspension. He can drop you guys off and go shoot coyotes on private land. He can then pick you up at dark or whatever. This isn’t communist China just yet.