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11-06-2017, 04:36 PM
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So you would be in favour of closing safe injection sites and then having more taxpayer money spent on the side effects of not having these places? Principle of the whole setup aside, I’m all for measures that reduce the financial burden on the health and justice system
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I wouldn't help them at all, no injection sites, no fentanol kits, no trips over and over to the hospital, and if they commit a bad crime( not just junkies) goodbye. There are to many hard working struggling people in the world to not help first. They chose that lifestyle so live with it, these places don't curb drug abuse and these people won't stop using. Like stated before, these are the same people stealing things, then selling them for drug money. Help honest hard working people is the logical thing to me, not these types. They are no gain to society, only a drain.
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11-06-2017, 06:10 PM
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I wouldn't help them at all, no injection sites, no fentanol kits, no trips over and over to the hospital, and if they commit a bad crime( not just junkies) goodbye. There are to many hard working struggling people in the world to not help first. They chose that lifestyle so live with it, these places don't curb drug abuse and these people won't stop using. Like stated before, these are the same people stealing things, then selling them for drug money. Help honest hard working people is the logical thing to me, not these types. They are no gain to society, only a drain.
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Not saying that you are right or wrong. The fact remains that health costs associated with alcohol cost Canadian tax payers much, much more than drugs.
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11-06-2017, 06:18 PM
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Not saying that you are right or wrong. The fact remains that health costs associated with alcohol cost Canadian tax payers much, much more than drugs.
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Yes you are probably right, it's still a total waste, I know a few people addicted to alcohol that hold jobs and pay taxes, I don't imagine to many druggies addicted to these powerful drugs work.
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11-06-2017, 06:40 PM
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Yes you are probably right, it's still a total waste, I know a few people addicted to alcohol that hold jobs and pay taxes, I don't imagine to many druggies addicted to these powerful drugs work.
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So what should we do with these people? Educate me. Try to answer with solutions that fit within the laws we live by.
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11-06-2017, 06:42 PM
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The same federal government who pays terrorists 10.5 million? Oh ya, their just full of brilliant ideas!
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your comment shows your ignorance, or lack of literacy.
the article says in the first few paragraphs:
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.....in a landmark decision on Friday that ordered the federal government to stop interfering with Vancouver's controversial Insite clinic......
In its 9-0 decision, it said the federal government has the jurisdictional right to use criminal law to restrict illicit-drug use – but that the concerns it cited in an attempt to close Insite were "grossly disproportionate" to the benefits for drug users and the community.
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the feds were the ones trying to shut down the clinics.
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11-06-2017, 06:44 PM
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So what should we do with these people? Educate me. Try to answer with solutions that fit within the laws we live by.
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You’re not going to win with facts, he’s arguing on nothing except emotion. His other posts says he would like to see the death penalty for some arbitrary “serious crimes”, yet another “solution” that costs more than the alternative with no added benefits.
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11-06-2017, 06:49 PM
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Wow.
People sure are closed minded in the face of overwhelming evidence.
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I have a feeling that it is more of a racist being the fact that addicts in Lethbridge are disproportionately native.
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11-06-2017, 06:53 PM
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So what should we do with these people? Educate me.
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Quit wasting money on them for one, if they want to do drugs.. Go for it!!!, and if you overdose, lay there, and whatever happens.. happens. No more handouts for these kind. Please tell me the point/gain for giving these kind handout after handout over and over and over, and they don't change, just keep wasting people's money.
Why would any working person want to fund this?
Where do you think they get their drug money?
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11-06-2017, 07:00 PM
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You’re not going to win with facts, he’s arguing on nothing except emotion. His other posts says he would like to see the death penalty for some arbitrary “serious crimes”, yet another “solution” that costs more than the alternative with no added benefits.
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It's called common sense, please tell me the benefit to fund druggies so they can continue to do drugs
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11-06-2017, 07:08 PM
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Maybe they should open a safe porn house for those addicted to sex. maybe save a few innocents from rape????
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11-06-2017, 07:09 PM
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Quit wasting money on them for one, if they want to do drugs.. Go for it!!!, and if you overdose, lay there, and whatever happens.. happens. No more handouts for these kind. Please tell me the point/gain for giving these kind handout after handout over and over and over, and they don't change, just keep wasting people's money.
Why would any working person want to fund this?
Where do you think they get their drug money?
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Great response, just what I expected. Here's some advice:
https://www.google.ca/search?biw=232...!2i1136!4f13.1
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11-06-2017, 07:10 PM
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Maybe they should open a safe porn house for those addicted to sex. maybe save a few innocents from rape????
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ya maybe eh yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck!!! huck ya!!!
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11-06-2017, 07:12 PM
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Great advise, Didn't know what to say to my 2 questions?
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11-06-2017, 07:20 PM
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Great advise, Didn't know what to say to my 2 questions?
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No, I just didn't want to answer with what could have been easily derived from what has already been posted in this thread if one were to have actually READ the entire thread. And let's not get into the didn't know what to say to my 2 questions bit considering you completely ignored the last half of my question in post #64. You know the one where I was playing the part of a civilized person when I said "Try to answer with solutions that fit within the laws we live by." Do you remeber that part or has that already been erased from your self righteous memory?
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11-06-2017, 07:20 PM
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I can’t help but think after reading some of the comments on here that there’s a couple of people posting that come from a huderite colony or thereabouts.
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11-06-2017, 07:21 PM
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Advise is spellededededed advice buy da weigh
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11-06-2017, 07:24 PM
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I can’t help but think after reading some of the comments on here that there’s a couple of people posting that come from a huderite colony or thereabouts.
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Wow. I can't help thinking after reading some of the BS I have seen on this site for the last few months that there is a whole crap load of people on this site with a very low level of intellect and even more that will never figure out how the spell check on their computers work.
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11-06-2017, 07:28 PM
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No, I just didn't want to answer with what could have been easily derived from what has already been posted in this thread if one were to have actually READ the entire thread. And let's not get into the didn't know what to say to my 2 questions bit considering you completely ignored the last half of my question in post #64. You know the one where I was playing the part of a civilized person when I said "Try to answer with solutions that fit within the laws we live by." Do you remeber that part or has that already been erased from your self righteous memory?
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To answer you question, LEAVE them to do whatever they want, but dont fund spaces and material to keep them doing it when people with health problems can't get the funding they need. So what's your solution?, feel sorry and fund them wherever we can, that's the solution more funding!!!, maybe we can even build them homes so the can live there off the street. Can you understand all this?
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11-06-2017, 07:35 PM
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To answer you question, LEAVE them to do whatever they want, but dont fund spaces and material to keep them doing it when people with health problems can't get the funding they need. So what's your solution?, feel sorry and fund them wherever we can, that's the solution more funding!!!, maybe we can even build them homes so the can live there off the street. Can you understand all this?
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You really don't get it do you? Again watch this http://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/it-s-coming...isis-1.3377480 then maybe you will have a better understanding of what this is all about. It's OK to get all emotional about it, and say it's a waste of money, but the simple fact is we can't let these people die and we have to help them, yes, legally. Sure it sucks to be a taxpayer with this burden but that's the "civilized" country we live in.
Here's a zinger for you. Did you know heroin addicts can get AISH in Alberta?
My solution would be to put them on an island in the Arctic Ocean with a pack of matches and a blanket but then my real brain kicks in and I realize that's just not possible.
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LEAVE them to do whatever they want
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Yes, recipe for more disaster! Isn't that what we did for the last 150 years? Turned out real good didn't it?
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11-06-2017, 07:40 PM
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You really don't get it do you? Again watch this http://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/it-s-coming...isis-1.3377480 then maybe you will have a better understanding of what this is all about. It's OK to get all emotional about it, and say it's a waste of money, but the simple fact is we can't let these people die and we have to help them, yes, legally. Sure it sucks to be a taxpayer with this burden but that's the "civilized" country we live in.
Here's a zinger for you. Did you know heroin addicts can get AISH in Alberta?
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So we weren't civilized before these sites came out? Our veterans are the ones who should be top priority, not these people. Where does the funding stop is what scares me!. Yes I did, it's unreal.
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11-06-2017, 07:47 PM
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So we weren't civilized before these sites came out? Our veterans are the ones who should be top priority, not these people. Where does the funding stop is what scares me!. Yes I did, it's unreal.
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That's an hour long show, did you just watch it all in five minutes? No more responses from me until you do your homework like a good boy. I expect an apple on my desk in the morning too.
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11-06-2017, 07:54 PM
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So we weren't civilized before these sites came out? Our veterans are the ones who should be top priority, not these people. Where does the funding stop is what scares me!. Yes I did, it's unreal.
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Actually more than a few of these guys abusing street drugs are veterans
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11-06-2017, 07:54 PM
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That's an hour long show, did you just watch it all in five minutes? No more responses from me until you do your homework like a good boy. I expect an apple on my desk in the morning too.
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No I've already seen that show a little bit ago, it made me sick
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11-06-2017, 07:56 PM
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Here's a zinger for you. Did you know heroin addicts can get AISH in Alberta?
My solution would be to put them on an island in the Arctic Ocean with a pack of matches and a blanket but then my real brain kicks in and I realize that's just not possible.
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That just about made me puke (AISH for junkees).
I am truly disgusted when I hear of some of the places that my tax dollars go, that is right up top.
I agree with the rest, have said for years a non patrolled jail in Antarctica for the most hardened criminals would be a lovely way for them to reboot their lives. Teach them a few new skills; parachuting, survival.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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11-06-2017, 07:58 PM
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No I've already seen that show a little bit ago, it made me sick
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Take some Gravol and watch it again.
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11-06-2017, 08:01 PM
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Take some Gravol and watch it again.
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No thanks, watching those junkies once was enough for me, knowing we help them is discussing
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11-06-2017, 08:03 PM
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I agree with the rest, have said for years a non patrolled jail in Antarctica for the most hardened criminals would be a lovely way for them to reboot their lives. Teach them a few new skills; parachuting, survival.
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I'm all for that, only problem is we would probably have to change the charter of rights to get anywhere close to anything resembling it. I remember when I used to smoke, I had wished there was a facility I could check myself into until such time I quit the craving. Nope, can't do something like that in Canada.
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11-06-2017, 08:06 PM
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To answer you question, LEAVE them to do whatever they want, but dont fund spaces and material to keep them doing it when people with health problems can't get the funding they need. So what's your solution?, feel sorry and fund them wherever we can, that's the solution more funding!!!, maybe we can even build them homes so the can live there off the street. Can you understand all this?
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so let me get this straight, it is not okay to help a junkie, well because they are a junkie? but we should be putting that money instead into emergency rooms or whatever for people with "REAL" health problems like what......the sniffles??
anytime i have gone to the emergency room with an emergency i find it packed with people with a cold or the flu "[cough sniff] i need antibiotics"
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11-06-2017, 08:14 PM
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so let me get this straight, it is not okay to help a junkie, well because they are a junkie? but we should be putting that money instead into emergency rooms or whatever for people with "REAL" health problems like what......the sniffles??
anytime i have gone to the emergency room with an emergency i find it packed with people with a cold or the flu "[cough sniff] i need antibiotics"
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That's true, I do too, but I wouldn't think many junkies pay taxes. Why would funding junkies to do their habit be a good thing. They don't pay into services, just take.
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11-06-2017, 08:22 PM
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Why would funding junkies to do their habit be a good thing. They don't pay into services, just take.
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OK let's turn this around. Try answering your own question. Pretend you're me. I know, I know, that's most likely impossible considering my goods looks, incredibly chiseled body, magnetizing personality and my inherent fearless leader qualities, but please, I'm begging you, give it a try.
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