Mike Duffy-Friends in High Places

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

This definitely needs to be investigated. If he got a $90,000 bank loan to repay the money then fine. If there was a gift I think it's pretty clearly offside. Whether it was from a "friend" or not makes absolutely no difference.

Sure makes you wonder about whaot sort of "journalistic integrity" Mike had as a reporter. You don't just suddenly lose all your ethics upon entering politics.

I support Harper and the Conservatives (I almost wrote "Cons"... ooops) but he's gotta start swinging the axe on a few members and put in place more openness and transparency.

Journalistic integrity, now that's a Good one. From what I've seen, they're as partisan as the politicians.

[MtnGiant]

Originally Posted by Mb-MBR

This can't be ethical, can it????


http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/can...207548701.html

Are you actually asking a question?
Or is this a rhetorical question?

It's politics dude.
Don't confuse ethics with politics.
They do not co-exist.

[Mb-MBR]

Originally Posted by mtngiant

Are you actually asking a question?
Or is this a rhetorical question?

It's politics dude.
Don't confuse ethics with politics.
They do not co-exist.

DUDE.............. You tryin to be

[MtnGiant]

Originally Posted by Mb-MBR

DUDE.............. You tryin to be

Hahahaha....not on purpose....it just comes naturally.

But seriously....I was being serious.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by rugatika

I agree with you Pesky, every gov is going to have some bad apples sucking up to the trough, but when the media is digging for all they're worth on these guys, and this is what they come up with, it's pretty easy to say the cons are leaps and bounds ahead of the last crew we had.

This seems to be a problem with individuals in the party, whereas the last go around it was a problem with the Liberal party itself.

I won't get into the whole anthropogenic global warming thing, but suffice it to say, there's a reason it's popularity is waning. It was/is a hoax.

Well I'll go along with that but I think the jury is still out on the GW thing.
Even if it is a hoax... the things we are being asked to do to prevent it should still have a postive effect overall... even if they do nothing to address warming.
There is nothing wrong with minimizing polution, and conserving energy.... in fact... its a good thing regardless of why we are doing it.

[sjemac]

Duffy just quit the Conservative caucus. I wonder if he will resign his seat.

[Mb-MBR]

Not resigning just sitting as an independnet just like Brazeau.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/can...207804811.html

I guess its hard to leave a nest egg like the senate.....

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by Mb-MBR

Not resigning just sitting as an independnet just like Brazeau.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/can...207804811.html

I guess its hard to leave a nest egg like the senate.....

So the wolf puts on a sheep suit for a time?
What a sweet deal for him and his pals.


Good thing we got distracted over the LGR and then forgot to push for the parliamentary and senate reform that we all want.... and were promised in the past.

Otherwise there might be some sort of functional accountability that would see Canadians getting the governance they should.

I wonder how many former Reformers puke a bit in their mouths every time they see Harper defend the senate he was so quick to attack when he needed their support?
I wonder if they feel like suckers to.

We really need to start thinking about making some torches.

[sjemac]

Shiny Pony Trudeau is going to be a shoo in if this lot keeps tripping over their shoelaces.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by sjemac

Shiny Pony Trudeau is going to be a shoo in if this lot keeps tripping over their shoelaces.

I'm afraid that you may be right.

Still... a minority government of almost any colour might be just what we need right now.
Make em all start to earn their money a bit ... increase the competition and most of all... actual debate anbd idea sharing.

Folks always forget... the opposition is the government as well... in theory they are supposted to be the voice of dissent that forces the majority of members to be thoughtful when voting.

Partisan politics has pretty much made that impossible.

Am I the only one that thinks its ironic that Canada stands alone as the ONLY country still using the English Parliamentary system unchanged and without having initiated significant reform... including England and the rest of the UK?

[riden]

Originally Posted by sjemac

Shiny Pony Trudeau is going to be a shoo in if this lot keeps tripping over their shoelaces.

I agree, Harper has to start dropping the ax on some of these clowns. One of Trudeau's strengths is he gives off an air of sincerity. I think that is one of the reasons he is so well liked.

Harper is creating an easy wave for Trudeau to ride.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by riden

I agree, Harper has to start dropping the ax on some of these clowns.

x2 Harper needs to learn that how this government operates day to day is as important as the end results it produces.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by pesky672

Clearly.

That said the bar wasn't set very high and they sure didn't clear it by much.

3.1 Billion lost
Fun and games during the election.
A couple of sneaky deals with the US that have cost us some privacy
They've hammered labour every chance they get.
Changed election funding rules to basically favour corporate sponsors over voters.
Have consistently tried to control the national news service.
Have allowed a foreign criminal to live here quite openly.
Had a minister that cheated on campaign funding.
They prorogued parliament a couple times and now...
Fired anyone that didn’t tow the party line… namely scientists.
Flip flopping just as badly as any of the rest.
In every instance where it comes down to money or the environment… the environment loses.
This latest scandal.

Yup... possibly more honest by comparison but honest isn’t a word that I would use to describe them.

Any proof to back up your claims?? All of them?

[Redfrog]

"We really need to start thinking about making some torches."

And do what exactly??
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I'm not sure what Duffy ever brought to the table to get the job in the first place.

[Mb-MBR]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

"We really need to start thinking about making some torches."

And do what exactly??
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I'm not sure what Duffy ever brought to the table to get the job in the first place.

Hopefully not to light a cross!!!!!!

[Fisherpeak]

They are dropping like flies now,Pamela Wallen just pulled the pin too.

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by Fisherpeak

They are dropping like flies now,Pamela Wallen just pulled the pin too.

Nigel Wright just ate his own gun to protect Harper.........

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2...f_resigns.html

Mike Puffy has done a lot of damage - bet he writes a book in order to pay his bills. Mike has been making six figures since the early nineties.

He must have a huge grocery bill - or maybe some other bad habits.

Jim

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

I'm not sure what Duffy ever brought to the table to get the job in the first place.

He brought more than groceries - a long career on Parliament Hill as a journalist - Puffy has dirt on everybody - friend and foe alike.

Pay him off to shut him up.

Jim

[Mb-MBR]

Its raining "Cons" in Ottawaspaskat!!!!!!

[marxman]

It seems nigel wright made so much money in the private sector that he doesnt need a lot more just his pmo wage. But he was a money manager and knows the importance of 90 000 dollars even if its not important to him i would think a person of his success would have too much respect for money to bail out a fool like duffy no strings attached. I dont think hes going to get this money back crookedly hes too smart for that and hes not really greedy or he wouldnt be in the job hes got. I cant imagine why he would take a risk to protect duffy he would not be a thorn in the govt side let him twist in the wind its his own fault. I hope we get more info because i dont know why wright gave him the money

[marxman]

Nigel wright has resigned

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by marxman

It seems nigel wright made so much money in the private sector that he doesnt need a lot more just his pmo wage. But he was a money manager and knows the importance of 90 000 dollars even if its not important to him i would think a person of his success would have too much respect for money to bail out a fool like duffy no strings attached. I dont think hes going to get this money back crookedly hes too smart for that and hes not really greedy or he wouldnt be in the job hes got. I cant imagine why he would take a risk to protect duffy he would not be a thorn in the govt side let him twist in the wind its his own fault. I hope we get more info because i dont know why wright gave him the money

He was protecting the PM....Duffy is a bit player in his world.....

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Any proof to back up your claims?? All of them?

Where have you been.
All of those things were widely reported and then discussed at length here.

He prorogued parliamnet and had to beg the GG not to disolve it a couple years ago.
They changed the funding rules and everyone knows that as well.

I'm not your secretary... if you want to refute something.... do your own work.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

"We really need to start thinking about making some torches."

And do what exactly??
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I'm not sure what Duffy ever brought to the table to get the job in the first place.

Its obviously a figure of speach.

What Canadians need to do is to participate in fundimental democracy... protest... loudly and start demanding change.

Problem is... the hill is in a place where the people don't want those changes.

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

He was protecting the PM....Duffy is a bit player in his world.....

Harper controls any statement and deal that comes from the PMO with an iron fist.

Plausible deniability won't be an option here for old Harp's - standby for more big lies and cover-ups.

Jim

[Mb-MBR]

Originally Posted by JimPS

Harper controls any statement and deal that comes from the PMO with an iron fist.

Plausible deniability won't be an option here for old Harp's - standby for more big lies and cover-ups.

Jim

He's ruled the party with an iron fist, so much so some of his members came out to the press criticizing the fact they've been silenced. So it is hard to believe he did not know about the payment from Wright to Duffy or the audit results of Wallen, Duffy and Brazeau!!!!

I'm sure there's more to the stroy and it will unfold..

Could save face by abolishing the fricken Senate. What purpose does that patronage haven serve except to allow Liberals and Conservatives to outdo each other by stacking with their flunkies.

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by Mb-MBR

He's ruled the party with an iron fist, so much so some of his members came out to the press criticizing the fact they've been silenced. So it is hard to believe he did not know about the payment from Wright to Duffy or the audit results of Wallen, Duffy and Brazeau!!!!

I'm sure there's more to the stroy and it will unfold..

Could save face by abolishing the fricken Senate. What purpose does that patronage haven serve except to allow Liberals and Conservatives to outdo each other by stacking with their flunkies.

Abolishing the senate is far easier said than done. It is a constitutional matter if I'm not mistaken. The NDP would love to see it happen as it could thwart their policies should they ever gain power. As such, I would rathe see it reformed, but again, not an easy thing to do.

[BeeGuy]

Run Stephen Run!

Problem with lies is they follow you wherever you go.

What the public needs now is some serious diversions.

Stay tuned for an 'act of terror' or other such smoke screen.

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Run Stephen Run!

Problem with lies is they follow you wherever you go.

What the public needs now is some serious diversions.

Stay tuned for an 'act of terror' or other such smoke screen.

People do love to speculate it seems. One has to wonder about the thought processes of those who embrace conspiracy theories though. The idea that governments can orchestrate criminal false flag operations only works if everyone involved are evil SOBs. Not too likely in my view.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by TomCanuck

People do love to speculate it seems. One has to wonder about the thought processes of those who embrace conspiracy theories though. The idea that governments can orchestrate criminal false flag operations only works if everyone involved are evil SOBs. Not too likely in my view.

Not too likely, but well documented.