Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > Guns & Ammo Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-28-2023, 07:48 AM
Stuntcarpenter Stuntcarpenter is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Airdire
Posts: 101
Default First rifle

Hey Guy,

I’m looking to buy my first rifle. I have a 12 g that I use for clays but want to get a rifle also.

It’s going to be for target shooting to start to get proficient. I would like to go deer hunt at some point in time but I know I need a bunch of practice before I ever try and take a deer.

This bring me to the question. Should I get a .22 to learn on and then upgrade in a year or two when I’m ready to start hunting or should I get a something that I could hunt with and learn on it.
The only other variable is that I shoot left handed so the availability of guns is less
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-28-2023, 07:59 AM
pikergolf's Avatar
pikergolf pikergolf is online now
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,349
Default

So much to learn with a .22. Great first rifle, relatively cheap to shoot, places to shoot are more available, tons of gopher patches around. It allows you to familiarize yourself with safety etc. It would be my choice. As for left hand guns CZ 457 comes in left, Tikka T1x comes in left as well as other manufactures. Those two would be my choice though as they make great .22s that hold their value and they are nice enough that they can be a forever gun. There are cheaper options available as well. Savage comes to mind as a left option.

Centre fire rifles are expensive to shoot a lot, although if you want to hunt big game you will need one.
__________________
“One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain.”

Thomas Sowell
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-28-2023, 08:01 AM
Wrongside Wrongside is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,086
Default

Get both.

A 22 is good practice and helps with some shooting fundamentals, but not a perfect replacement for shooting CF. Recoil management, especially with lighter rifles, is important and shooting 22 doesn’t get you that.

Tikka is the easy button, especially for LH shooters. The T1x 22 is very accurate and a nice complement to your T3x centerfire.

Enjoy your shopping and shooting!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-28-2023, 08:41 AM
elkhunter11 elkhunter11 is online now
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Camrose
Posts: 45,116
Default

By all means, start with a 22lr, then when you fully understand the basics, and are ready to hunt, get a suitable centerfire.
__________________
Only accurate guns are interesting.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-28-2023, 10:35 AM
Big Sky's Avatar
Big Sky Big Sky is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,304
Default

IMO, everyone gun owner should have a 22. Excellent for practise, great for small game and they are a fun way to spend time at the range while your centerfire is cooling down.

I'd go with the Tikka. There's not a lot of left hand options and the Tikka would be a good one. I have one and I am happy with it for the uses that I stated. The LOP might be a little short but it is a problem with lots of solutions, from inexpensive like a new recoil pad to more costly such as a new stock.

Getting a t3x centerfire to go along with the T1x would give you a real nice 2 gun battery.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-28-2023, 10:40 AM
tirebob's Avatar
tirebob tirebob is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Airdrie, AB and Part Time BC
Posts: 3,001
Default

As a fellow lefty shooter who went through very much the same thing you are going through now, I ended up with a brand new CZ557 in 30.06 with a beautiful Walnut stock as well as a solid pre-loved CZ452 in .22, also walnut stock. Both lefty orientation and good value for quality!
__________________
Urban Expressions Wheel & Tire Inc
Bay #6, 1303 44th ave NE
Calgary AB, T2E6L5
403.769.1771
bobbybirds@icloud.com
www.urbanexp.ca

Leviticus 23: 4-18: "he that scopeth a lever, or thou allow a scope to lie with a lever as it would lie with a bolt action, shall have created an abomination and shall perish in the fires of Hell forever and ever.....plus GST" - huntinstuff April 07/23
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-28-2023, 11:13 AM
Smokinyotes Smokinyotes is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: onoway, Ab
Posts: 6,982
Default

Trying to find a left hand CZ 22 is tough. I looked for over a year and bought a Tikka T1X. It shoots amazing, only problem is my wife has claimed it.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-28-2023, 01:51 PM
freeride freeride is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Sky View Post

Getting a t3x centerfire to go along with the T1x would give you a real nice 2 gun battery.
That's what I did. Set them both up the same as well. Practice cheap with the 22, and while the big brother is cooling down.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-28-2023, 04:13 PM
Stuntcarpenter Stuntcarpenter is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Airdire
Posts: 101
Default

Thanks guys. That’s what I was expecting. Now it’s a matter of finding one.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-28-2023, 04:28 PM
fishnguy fishnguy is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,700
Default

With Tikka, you also have the benefit of using the same stock on both rifles, .22 and whatever other cartridge you choose.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-28-2023, 05:32 PM
eyeflyer eyeflyer is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 107
Default

Definitely a .22 first. You want to shoot lots when getting started and like already mentioned these are cheaper to shoot and a lot more areas to shoot./hunt. I also shoot CF and shotgun but am not a target shooter with CF so maybe shoot 30-40 rounds of CF a year, a few hundred with shotgun shooting trap and waterfowl hunting and a few thousand .22 target shooting and gopher hunting. As you can see I shoot my .22's the most of any and my most expensive gun/scope is my .22. After shooting for many years with mostly mid level firearms my wife bought me a nice Anshutz .22.............she is the greatest.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-28-2023, 07:08 PM
~altiplano~ ~altiplano~ is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 106
Default

You'll want a 22 to plink with at some point. Why not first?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-28-2023, 11:13 PM
partsman partsman is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Kelowna B.C.
Posts: 409
Default

How about a browning SA-22 ejects out the bottom so anybody can shoot it, I like my two.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-29-2023, 08:18 AM
graybeard graybeard is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 2,140
Default

A good hunting buddy of mine is a lefty. When he was young all there was in his budget were right hand actions.

Simply put, he learned to shoot the right hand action from his left side and he is very proficient. The other option was to stay on the porch.

If you are just starting out, what the heck.

Good luck,
__________________
Life is like baseball; it is the number of times you reach home safely, that counts.

We have two lives: The life we learn with and the life we live with after that.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-29-2023, 08:45 AM
waldedw's Avatar
waldedw waldedw is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Lloydminster
Posts: 4,490
Default

In my opinion you should get yourself a good bolt action 22 to start with, if you get a good one it will last you a lifetime and probably pass it down to your kids for another lifetime
__________________
The problem we have today is that the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.

We were all born ignorant but one must work very hard to remain that way.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-29-2023, 03:35 PM
Stuntcarpenter Stuntcarpenter is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Airdire
Posts: 101
Default First rifle

Would this be a good start? Or hold out for a T1x

https://guns.townpost.ca/marketplace...-hand-22-rifle
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-29-2023, 06:54 PM
pikergolf's Avatar
pikergolf pikergolf is online now
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,349
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntcarpenter View Post
Would this be a good start? Or hold out for a T1x

https://guns.townpost.ca/marketplace...-hand-22-rifle
I would hold out for a Tikka or CZ.
__________________
“One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain.”

Thomas Sowell
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-29-2023, 07:11 PM
pikergolf's Avatar
pikergolf pikergolf is online now
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,349
Default

PM sent.
__________________
“One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain.”

Thomas Sowell
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-29-2023, 07:36 PM
vance vance is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 264
Default CZ!

I have not even seen a tikka 22 FYI.
I have 5 CZ rimfires and have owned 3 others. Compared to the Savages that I own/have owned, the CZ rifles feel and balance more like a full size CF rifle.
The Savages have always been good shooters, but the CZ is a finer rifle to have and use if you can find one in left. If you can't buy one in right hand and go shooting till you find a lefty.
Then get a 223 or a 7.63x39 bolt action rifle as your next step in practicing
(due to ammo cost)
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-30-2023, 05:16 AM
~altiplano~ ~altiplano~ is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 106
Default

I'd get a cheap bolt 22.

My first rifle I bought over 20 years ago was a Savage bolt action 22 for not much more than $100. Shoots great, I still shoot it today.

I'd like to get a lever 22 too though... The Henry carbine with the Skinner sights is a nice rifle. Saw it at Hougen's in Whitehorse in the fall and thought I'd pick it up when I was back through later in the month, but it was gone.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 01-30-2023, 07:18 PM
Big Sky's Avatar
Big Sky Big Sky is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntcarpenter View Post
Would this be a good start?
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-04-2023, 11:19 PM
tirebob's Avatar
tirebob tirebob is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Airdrie, AB and Part Time BC
Posts: 3,001
Default

Always leery of a low post count but if it can be verified as a legit sell, this Left Hand CZ452 in .22 just came up on CGN...

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...lent-Condition
__________________
Urban Expressions Wheel & Tire Inc
Bay #6, 1303 44th ave NE
Calgary AB, T2E6L5
403.769.1771
bobbybirds@icloud.com
www.urbanexp.ca

Leviticus 23: 4-18: "he that scopeth a lever, or thou allow a scope to lie with a lever as it would lie with a bolt action, shall have created an abomination and shall perish in the fires of Hell forever and ever.....plus GST" - huntinstuff April 07/23
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-05-2023, 12:22 AM
JD848 JD848 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,872
Default

Semi auto's are fun ,but for your first I would go with a bolt ,like the one Tirebob has posted for another member that CZ .Very dependable ,never loaded after you fire it ,you need to cycle another round for it to be loaded in the chamber. Plus a bolt is easy to clean.

Seen guys with years of experience slip up an have a loaded chamber in the rifle after they taken a grouse or something and forget to unload .

The tikka or CZ would be my choice in bolt, my last choice would be a ruger 10/22. There's thousands out there so many must like them, just not my pick.

All the best in your new choice of rifle ,buy good and a 22 can last a very long time .

from a .22 to a non mag tikka's are hard to beat ,they shot very well.

Last edited by JD848; 02-05-2023 at 12:31 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-23-2023, 06:57 PM
Stuntcarpenter Stuntcarpenter is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Airdire
Posts: 101
Default

Hey Guys,

Would this be a good purchase.

Tikka T3 7mm REM Mag
Bushnell banner 6-18x50

$850

IMG_3215.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-29-2023, 04:45 PM
Savage Bacon's Avatar
Savage Bacon Savage Bacon is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Calgary-Red Deer area
Posts: 3,253
Default

I'd suggest a ruger 10/22 for a few reasons.

It isnt the nicest or highest quality but really, everyone should have one.

Fairly accurate with a rimfire scope.

Your first rifle is going to get beat up a bit so I'd upgrade to a nicer 22 later on.

You're going to be knocking it over and probably hitting it on things for the first while. So don't get the CZ or Tika just yet.

Even putting it away in a soft case when it's freezing cold and leaving it for a while might develop rust. So learn to be meticulous with something that works, but isn't the end of the world if it isn't treated the best.





Sent from my SM-G970W using Tapatalk
__________________
I'm not really a licensed bodyman or heavy duty mechanic. I just play one at work.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 01-29-2023, 05:01 PM
mstefoniuk mstefoniuk is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 67
Default first rifle

any 22 lr lever action can work for right or left handers, also resale on a lever would be better than a left handed bolt action.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 01-29-2023, 05:17 PM
Stuntcarpenter Stuntcarpenter is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Airdire
Posts: 101
Default

I thought a bolt action would be better as I would also be getting proficient with the action for when I get a hunting rifle working the action would already be muscle memory
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.