Covid 19: Medical / Technical Thread

[MrPants]

I have zero confidence in Canadian officials.


https://www.cp24.com/news/paramedics...ding-1.4783832

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by MrPants

I have zero confidence in Canadian officials.


https://www.cp24.com/news/paramedics...ding-1.4783832

Maybe they dont want to panic the populace

[omega50]

Originally Posted by MrPants

I have zero confidence in Canadian officials.


https://www.cp24.com/news/paramedics...ding-1.4783832

When I call 911 for ambulance service , my first concern is that they contact the union for permission before they dispatch.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by omega50

When I call 911 for ambulance service , my first concern is that they contact the union for permission before they dispatch.

The UNION should be warning their workers of imminent threat and concerns, no?

[omega50]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

The UNION should be warning their workers of imminent threat and concerns, no?

I guess the Union has not been following the news.I find the Union negligent.

According to the first report The 911 caller identified that the patient had this travel history. -the paramedics were advised before pick-up.
Who to believe?

[bloopbloob]

Originally Posted by MrPants

I have zero confidence in Canadian officials.


https://www.cp24.com/news/paramedics...ding-1.4783832

What kind of BS response is that! Every other country tries to chase down every single possible contact a carrier may have had. To not notify first responders of what they may have had a high likeleyhood of exposure to, and test them? Pathetic and disgusting.

[1stLand]

Turdeau is not concerned.
He can always hop on a private jet and hid out on the Aga Khan's private island until this pandemic blows over.

[bloopbloob]

Originally Posted by bat119

The coronavirus is spread from person to person, how long does the virus stay active on a hard surface?

Anybody know? I'm expecting a package from China should open it up with BBQ tongs and spray Lysol?

I would certainly take precautions. Generally a virus can only live a short time outside of a host, minutes, to 24 hours usually. Occassionally up to 10 days, but that is not the norm. Counter-intuitive, but they actually survive longer on a hard surface versus a permeable surface.

[omega50]

TCEU Paramedic Services said the two paramedics that transported him had to find out about the severity of the situation by watching the news.

“Unfortunately, the Paramedics who transported this patient just found this out from the media and your tweet,” they wrote, referring to the official release about the discovery by Toronto Public Health. They also claimed the paramedics weren’t wearing proper protective equipment when they transported the man to hospital on Thursday.


They later backtracked, saying that they did wear protective gear and that the public health unit told Paramedic leadership about the probable coronavirus diagnosis, but not the two paramedics who transported the patient.


So-The Union lies and everyone is outraged because they believe it is the truth. They need a kick in the nuts.

So What the Union is saying is that They WERE informed, but decided not to tell their members. But they are still somehow outraged and looking to place the blame elsewhere

[Mulehahn]

Yes, the paramedics may not of been at risk; but what the next person to be transported in that ambulance or by them. As has been stated, it survives longer on a hard surface. Lots of hard surfaces in a confined space for it to land on in the back of an ambulance.

Yes, I know things get disinfected between but the chance if missing is huge. I am not really concerned about myself but I do know lots of elderly who could be at risk.

[MrPants]

I could really care less if it’s the union or not, all I’m saying is that 2 people that are just doing their job got exposed potentially. That’s how this thing will spread.

[bloopbloob]

5 now confirmed in the US....

[raab]

Originally Posted by bat119

The coronavirus is spread from person to person, how long does the virus stay active on a hard surface?

Anybody know? I'm expecting a package from China should open it up with BBQ tongs and spray Lysol?

Don’t know how long yet. As Bloop said average is 24 hours at room temperature. In colder environments they can live much longer. Hopefully summer comes early this year.

If you’re worried about your package use gloves and wipe it down with Lysol wipes with bleach(blue packaging IIRC). Then go wash your hands afterwards and you should be fine.

[bessiedog]

Ironic if Amazon got its n95 masks shipped from China........



I think about stuff like that.....

[fishtank]

Originally Posted by bessiedog

Ironic if Amazon got its n95 masks shipped from China........



I think about stuff like that.....

Another reason for "dont put all your eggs in one basket" !!

[urban rednek]

This could be a double whammy for peoplekind who spend time outdoors.
Stay safe out there.

[reddeerguy2015]

Originally Posted by bessiedog

Ironic if Amazon got its n95 masks shipped from China........



I think about stuff like that.....

Well where else would it be coming from ??

Killed by the very thing you'd bought to keep you alive....

Kidding of course, but wouldn't that be a twist.

[270person]

Originally Posted by raab

Don’t know how long yet. As Bloop said average is 24 hours at room temperature. In colder environments they can live much longer. Hopefully summer comes early this year.

If you’re worried about your package use gloves and wipe it down with Lysol wipes with bleach(blue packaging IIRC). Then go wash your hands afterwards and you should be fine.

Virus and "living" of course being pretty ambiguous.

You're right on the bleach part though. Alcohol is also effective but not in the concentrations most here might consume. If that were true B3ssiedog wouldn't spend a day sick in his entire life.

Some of the products labeled "disinfectants" would be a total waste of time. All are not created equal and would have to have specific targets vs being general disinfectants. Some work well on Some things. When in doubt go with the one they use on Ebola.

[reddeerguy2015]

Serious question. For all our postal workers that are touching these packages coming in from China daily - what type of precautions are they being told to take ??

Would a virus typically survive a trip like this ??

[bloopbloob]

Originally Posted by reddeerguy2015

Serious question. For all our postal workers that are touching these packages coming in from China daily - what type of precautions are they being told to take ??

Would a virus typically survive a trip like this ??

Good question. I honestly don't know. I think it's Russian roulette. Hopefully they have PPE! If someone coughed and there is some fluid, the virus will be live and well on its trip...

[1899b]

If you order from WISH, there warehouse is in Wuhang.

[makin tracks]

interesting, has anyone checked there food cupboard, for food place of origin, not sure if a mask is going to help much lol. good luck though!

[fishnguy]

Originally Posted by fishnguy

The 24-hour round-up:

8:45 am Jan 26

Wuhan Coronavirus update as of 24:00 Jan 25:

New cases: 688

New deaths: 15 (13 from Hubei, 1 from Shanghai, 1 from Henan)

Total cases: 1975

Total deaths: 56

Next 24-hour round-up:

7:37 am Jan 27

As of 12:00AM Jan 27, there have been 2744 confirmed cases of Wuhan Coronavirus in Chinese mainland, 80 deaths.

Even though it dropped slightly, I would say the average of about 1.5 increase in new daily reported cases still holds.

[raab]

Originally Posted by 270person

Virus and "living" of course being pretty ambiguous.

You're right on the bleach part though. Alcohol is also effective but not in the concentrations most here might consume. If that were true B3ssiedog wouldn't spend a day sick in his entire life.

Some of the products labeled "disinfectants" would be a total waste of time. All are not created equal and would have to have specific targets vs being general disinfectants. Some work well on Some things. When in doubt go with the one they use on Ebola.

Yes, a virus isnt life. I guess I should have said it can remain infectious in a cold environment longer.

[WhiteTailAB]

Originally Posted by reddeerguy2015

Serious question. For all our postal workers that are touching these packages coming in from China daily - what type of precautions are they being told to take ??

Would a virus typically survive a trip like this ??

They probably haven't been told yet.

[reddeerguy2015]

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB

They probably haven't been told yet.

I feel like this is important information that should probably be looked at.

I mean - with all the crap that comes from China, who knows if it could spread to the (intended) recipients (you), or carriers (the postal workers) ??

More fear mongering ?? Or legitimate concern ??

[roper1]

Originally Posted by bloopbloob

5 now confirmed in the US....

Appears everyone of these were actually in Wuhan. Like physically present in the city in the last two weeks! Surprisingly no health workers from Washington State have it, and that person is due to leave hospital soon.

[buckbrush]

Originally Posted by roper1

Appears everyone of these were actually in Wuhan. Like physically present in the city in the last two weeks! Surprisingly no health workers from Washington State have it, and that person is due to leave hospital soon.

I'm not surprised. With up to fourteen day incubation period there could be many more cases in NA that are not showing symptoms yet.

[nitro]

This comes form CNN not sure how much to trust it but
"On Sunday, Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said the risk to the American public for contracting this virus continues to be low.
"We at CDC don't have clear evidence that patients are infectious before symptom onset, but we are actively investigating that possibility," Messonnier said.
"We need to be preparing as if this is a pandemic, but I continue to hope that it is not," she added."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/26/healt...als/index.html
Meanwhile in Canada we do what ?

[bessiedog]

[QUOTE=270person;4099985]Virus and "living" of course being pretty ambiguous.

“ Alcohol is also effective but not in the concentrations most here might consume. If that were true B3ssiedog wouldn't spend a day sick in his entire life. ”


Ooooooh!!!

Challenge accepted!