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02-12-2008, 11:35 AM
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Traditional Bowhunters
I'm curious how many other traditional bowhunters there are out there?
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02-12-2008, 11:57 AM
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Please define traditional?
I talked to someone this year who used a wooden recruve bow and hunted from a double bull shoot through blind, is he traditional?
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02-12-2008, 12:41 PM
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Recurve or stick bow is traditional.
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02-12-2008, 01:44 PM
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Trad shooter Unite!! LOL
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02-12-2008, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRackLover
Please define traditional?
I talked to someone this year who used a wooden recruve bow and hunted from a double bull shoot through blind, is he traditional?
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Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
There is no definition..............If you think you have one, somebody else will put you in your place.......especially those guys who make self bows using bone and rock tools, sinew strings, obsidian arrow heads and wear loin cloths when hunting in the dead of winter. The Trad Police are real!
Ok................I've been known to hunt with longbows and recurves..........but I use a sight and an arrow rest on one of my recurves and I hunt from treestands and blinds......... Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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02-12-2008, 02:27 PM
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if your using a bow with no training wheels, no let off, and shooting instinctive, i call that traditional, no matter if in a stand, blind, boat, under a rock, home made self bow, or factory made mass produced bow, wood/carbon/aluminum arrows.
just get out and have fun, sad when archery gets picked apart like fishing does with the high class flyfishermen that mock spin fishers
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Last edited by Alberta Bigbore; 02-13-2008 at 06:29 AM.
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02-12-2008, 11:23 PM
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I would LOVE to hunt trad. this year. I can't justify to the wife on $400 for a stick and a string though.
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02-13-2008, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoochie Papa
I would LOVE to hunt trad. this year. I can't justify to the wife on $400 for a stick and a string though.
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$400? you Must be talking about Chek-Mates? go see Jack Kempf, and then you can try and get the wife to justify $600 - $1000. worth every penny
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02-13-2008, 11:34 AM
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Where is that Jack Kempf located Bigbore? I didn't know that this idea of traditional archery was so confusing. I think though that Bigbore gave a good definition if their was one. A traditional archer usually knows if he's traditional I would imagine. If anyone wants to argue about it I don't want to hear it. Absolutely rediculous. What do you shoot Bigbore? Do you do anything with the Alberta Trad. Bowhunters Association?
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02-13-2008, 11:42 AM
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i have mucked around a bit and knapped some obsidian arrow points. i would love to some day see how they work!!
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02-13-2008, 01:02 PM
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All i hear is that Trad shooters have more fun. I must be a trad shooter because I have a blast.
even with wheels on the bow!
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02-13-2008, 01:15 PM
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You might be a trad shooter if!...
You might be a trad shooter if....
You consider archers who shoot with bows that have wheels as Archers in Training,
You rarely have to worry about an equipment failure,
the only tool you carry is a hunting knife...
You have purposely destroyed an arrow just because it was something interesting to shoot at
When you see a turkey you see fletches for 7 dozen arrows,
You have used to have 4 cousins, now you have 3 cousins and a wife and there was not a funeral.
You laugh when you miss and You laugh and look surprised when you hit,
You gave up on compound archery because you needed an excuse to miss, and said compund archery was too complicated.
Tuning your bow means twisting the string,
You adjust sights by smacking yourself in the head to uncross your eyes,
You can sight in anywhere as long as there is ground.
You can grow facial hair and show it off, in a specific design known as scruffy,
You have had strangers walk up to you and give you $10 for a meal.
Your bows are worth more than the car carrying them (Pete Ward)
and the number 1 way.... you read these and some actually made sense!...
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02-13-2008, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Reddog
Where is that Jack Kempf located Bigbore? I didn't know that this idea of traditional archery was so confusing. I think though that Bigbore gave a good definition if their was one. A traditional archer usually knows if he's traditional I would imagine. If anyone wants to argue about it I don't want to hear it. Absolutely rediculous. What do you shoot Bigbore? Do you do anything with the Alberta Trad. Bowhunters Association?
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Jacks out in Sherwood park. His bows are pretty popular, lots of models to choose from. Last time i talked to him there was alot of orders made for New York areas and Europe.. Uses Antler on the limb tips, all kids of woods and laminates, actually, to much to list of what he can do to the bow model you choose.
I shoot a "Little Grizzly" and a "Kwik Styk" currently, have some other bows i just dont get around to shooting any more, Like Caribow, Robertson Stykbow, etc.
But havent been shooting much this year like i used to, been wrapped up on guns, and working alot. Thinking about dropping a deposit off to Jack to make me a bow that matches the new Grey Laminate stock i bought for a remington. He has about a 6 month wait currently
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02-13-2008, 07:55 PM
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I will have to give him a visit. I looked at his website and liked the long bows that I saw. Not to found of his style of recurve, just a matter of opinion as far as looks go. What kind of arrow do you shoot with your traditional?
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02-13-2008, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ehntr
Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
There is no definition..............If you think you have one, somebody else will put you in your place.......especially those guys who make self bows using bone and rock tools, sinew strings, obsidian arrow heads and wear loin cloths when hunting in the dead of winter. The Trad Police are real!
Ok................I've been known to hunt with longbows and recurves..........but I use a sight and an arrow rest on one of my recurves and I hunt from treestands and blinds......... Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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That's defined these days as "primitive".
however, I'm not fussy, as long as it is a "stik 'n'strinng"!!
I've got Brownings, bears, Danarcos, Ben Pearsons, and Kempfs, all sticks.
Cat
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02-13-2008, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Reddog
Where is that Jack Kempf located Bigbore? I didn't know that this idea of traditional archery was so confusing. I think though that Bigbore gave a good definition if their was one. A traditional archer usually knows if he's traditional I would imagine. If anyone wants to argue about it I don't want to hear it. Absolutely rediculous. What do you shoot Bigbore? Do you do anything with the Alberta Trad. Bowhunters Association?
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Here's what a Jack kempf two piece flat bow looks like
And one of his Tournament King frestylee bows.
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Anytime I figure I've got this long range thing figured out, I just strap into the sling and irons and remind myself that I don't!
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02-13-2008, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Reddog
I will have to give him a visit. I looked at his website and liked the long bows that I saw. Not to found of his style of recurve, just a matter of opinion as far as looks go. What kind of arrow do you shoot with your traditional?
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He actuially makes several different styles of limb for the recurves.
I use Port Orford cedar shafts, very fond of kelly Peterson's arrows.
the las tbunch I ordered were for a friend, and Jack made them.
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Anytime I figure I've got this long range thing figured out, I just strap into the sling and irons and remind myself that I don't!
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02-13-2008, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ehntr
Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
There is no definition..............If you think you have one, somebody else will put you in your place.......
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So if "traditional bowhunter" can't be defined this thread should be terminated.
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02-13-2008, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRackLover
Please define traditional?
I talked to someone this year who used a wooden recruve bow and hunted from a double bull shoot through blind, is he traditional?
So if "traditional bowhunter" can't be defined this thread should be terminated.
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So, you want to hear that using a DB blind is not traditional? Must be the brand name that concerns you...............'cause blind hunting is not new.
[QUOTEThe Trad Police are real!][/QUOTE]
Exactly my point.
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02-19-2008, 04:41 PM
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traditional
Count me as traditional. I don't need training wheels, and that's the only criteria there is.
Now that that's out of the way, people ought to know that every friday evening at the Calgary Archery Center is "trad night" all are welcome and you'll have a great time and be well received.
take care
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In searching trad stuff I found this.
Didn't expect to see definition bickering
Anyways.....I'll see ya there tonight chef.
Looking forward to it
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02-21-2014, 09:21 AM
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Born, bred and raised "traditional" and oh, I have also hunted with a longbow for 28 years. Numerous Elk, Moose and deer have fallen to one of my cedar shafted arrows.
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02-21-2014, 09:26 AM
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Born, bred and raised "traditional" and oh, I have also hunted with a longbow for 28 years. Numerous Elk, Moose and deer have fallen to one of my cedar shafted arrows.
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Beautiful. ...I can't wait to get started.
And you use wood arrows?
That's awesome!!
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02-21-2014, 09:51 AM
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If you need someone else's definition , you aren't traditional.
I like every type from Horsebows, selfbows, longbows and recurve's shot off the shelf or knuckle, without elevated rests or sights. Bow materials range from a split stave to High end glass / carbon and metal ILF .
It works for me and I don't give a hoot if the trad police don't like it.
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02-21-2014, 10:00 AM
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Beautiful. ...I can't wait to get started.
And you use wood arrows?
That's awesome!!
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Yes, cedar shafts. I used to frequent the Michigan Longbow Rendezvous and every time I went down there I would come back with a thousand or two of raw cedar shafting. Have enough to outfit a battalion!!
The best thing about shooting cedar is breaking an arrow, the aroma of cedar is a thing of beauty.
You will love shooting traditional. Don't limit yourself to shooting paper, get outside and shoot dandelions or anything at various distances. I normally have a dozen or so arrows with judo tips just for "stump" shooting.
Consider it as programming your computer, which is your mind. Over time, it'll be just a matter of picking up the bow with a nocked arrow, drawing and releasing in one fluid motion. The key is to be consistent from one shot to another. A consistent anchor point is desired to achieve this.
I'm sure others who have shot longer can chime in with other tips. There is no "one way" or "right way" to shoot, find what works for you and enjoy.
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I'm planning on a set of Gold Tip wood design arrows for target and hunting.
But what would you recommend as field practice arrows that will surely get ruined or lost?
I'm talking money vs quality.
I do understand the importance of keeping the arrow weight the same.
Arrows can get expensive unlike bullet practice.
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02-21-2014, 10:10 AM
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Use the same arrows for everything what ever type you get.
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02-21-2014, 10:17 AM
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Use the same arrows for everything what ever type you get.
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I was afraid you were going to say that.
That's what I do for my compound bow but only got there with tons of practice with crappy arrows.
Trad shooting is like starting all over again.
Guess I'll have to bite the bullet on quality arrows this time. I don't want to have to adjust my sighting by changing arrows.
It's a lot easier to do with fixed sights on a compound bow.
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02-21-2014, 10:22 AM
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Just keep your shooting distance within your ability and you will be fine.
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02-21-2014, 10:30 AM
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Just keep your shooting distance within your ability and you will be fine.
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Thanks Pete I will do just that. Even though I have a habit of liking to shoot longer at times before I'm truly ready. Its fun haha.
I want to get a tripod with 40in target to take camping or a day in the bush with for practice.
Can you recommend a product?
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