Reverse Terrorism

[pikergolf]

White man plows van into Muslim worshipers. Things could get ugly, Isis strategy of hatred seems to be winning out.

http://medicinehatnews.com/news/worl...ue-10-injured/

[338 Rules]

Anyone surprised?

[HowSwedeItIs]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Things could get ugly, Isis strategy of hatred seems to be winning out.

Is that really a fair conclusion, given that incidents like this one are comparatively rare, and that the attacker appears to be a lone nutcase?

[JimPS]

Reverse terrorism?
That implies there is something called forward terrorism.
Terrorism is terrorism.
It's all ugly, bad, hateful, evil, nasty and cowardly.

[rugatika]

Just a "mentally ill" person. Why is the colour of his skin important to the media now?

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Just a "mentally ill" person. Why is the colour of his skin important to the media now?

good question with an obvious answer. Isnt it time for cat to come flying in on his horse and and smash down his authoritarian hammer, to shut down any intelligent debate like a good little social justice warrior?

[silverdoctor]

Lots of fear and anger toward the Muslim communities all over - and people are surprised by this?

How would you feel if this happened in Canada? Alberta? Calgary or Edmonton?

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

good question with an obvious answer. Isnt it time for cat to come flying in on his horse and and smash down his authoritarian hammer, to shut down any intelligent debate like a good little social justice warrior?

Intelligent debate. That funny.

Calling Cat a SJW simply isn't fair, the board has rules and agree or not, he needs to follow.

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

good question with an obvious answer. Isnt it time for cat to come flying in on his horse and and smash down his authoritarian hammer, to shut down any intelligent debate like a good little social justice warrior?

I believe the moderators do depend on feedback from members on this forum?

It was mentioned sometime ago that participation can influence how this forum will go.

But you must measure your participation because you do not know who is taking the pulse.

[waterninja]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

good question with an obvious answer. Isnt it time for cat to come flying in on his horse and and smash down his authoritarian hammer, to shut down any intelligent debate like a good little social justice warrior?

Think your being a little tough on Cat. He ussually stays on sidelines, and even joins in, until things start to really go sideways.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

good question with an obvious answer. Isnt it time for cat to come flying in on his horse and and smash down his authoritarian hammer, to shut down any intelligent debate like a good little social justice warrior?

No I just shut down people that try and stir up trouble using troll posts
Cat

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by JimPS

Reverse terrorism?
That implies there is something called forward terrorism.
Terrorism is terrorism.
It's all ugly, bad, hateful, evil, nasty and cowardly.

Yup.

[bigskinner]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

White man plows van into Muslim worshipers. Things could get ugly, Isis strategy of hatred seems to be winning out.

http://medicinehatnews.com/news/worl...ue-10-injured/

Actually its payback time not terrorisum.
This guy figures if they can do it to us , then we can do it to them

[M70]

I'm not part of a "we" that hurts innocent people.

[Kos]

Originally Posted by M70

I'm not part of a "we" that hurts innocent people.

Me too!

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

Actually its payback time not terrorisum.
This guy figures if they can do it to us , then we can do it to them

Classic example of being "part of the problem". Not "part of the solution".

Good troll post. Classic actually. Maybe one of the best this year.

Innocent people are not "they" and "them" in a normal sane person's brain.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Classic example of being "part of the problem". Not "part of the solution".

Good troll post. Classic actually. Maybe one of the best this year.

Innocent people are not "they" and "them" in a normal sane person's brain.

He's likely right. We are not living life in England, all is quiet here in Canada.

What do you think the solution is? If you can find a way to get everyone together around a campfire eating smores and singing kumbaya, I'm sure the world is all ears.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

He's likely right. We are not living life in England, all is quiet here in Canada.

What do you think the solution is? If you can find a way to get everyone together around a campfire eating smores and singing kumbaya, I'm sure the world is all ears.

I disagree.

Just like all Muslims aren't murderous terrorists so are not all British murderous hate crime people.

Your average person knows, works, plays etc with people who are Muslim. I don't hate them nor blame them for the actions of a tiny tiny minority of power hungry fanatics.

I believe the Muslim community needs to be more proactive and vocal in sending the right message as violence of any kind is wrong and not supported by true followers.

But there is no excuse. Any attempt to suggest "payback" is right is 100% wrong.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

I disagree.

Just like all Muslims aren't murderous terrorists so are not all British murderous hate crime people.

Your average person knows, works, plays etc with people who are Muslim. I don't hate them nor blame them for the actions of a tiny tiny minority of power hungry fanatics.

I believe the Muslim community needs to be more proactive and vocal in sending the right message as violence of any kind is wrong and not supported by true followers.

But there is no excuse. Any attempt to suggest "payback" is right is 100% wrong.

You can disagree all you want, doesn't make it any less false.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...bridge-attacks

Anti-Muslim hate crimes increase fivefold since London Bridge attacks

The London Bridge attacks have triggered a big spike in hate crimes with a significant amount of them being attacks in the street directed at British Muslims.

Figures released by the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, showed a fivefold increase in Islamophobic attacks since the atrocity at London Bridge on Saturday, and a 40% increase in racist incidents, compared with the daily average this year.

The increase in recorded Islamophic incidents after the London Bridge attacks is greater than it was after the 2013 murder of Lee Rigby and after the 2015 massacre in Paris, two different sets of figures have suggested.

The nature of this rise in hate crime is also different from last year after the Brexit vote, police sources have told the Guardian. Recorded hate crime rose to 54 incidents a day versus a daily average of 38 for 2017, Metropolitan police figures covering London have shown. Recorded crime where an anti-Muslim motive was identified reached 20, while the daily average for 2017 was under four.

The trends are confirmed by figures from Tell Mama, which said 63 incidents were reported to the independent group from Sunday to Tuesday rather than to the police. The figures are indicative; police and community experts believe there is huge under-reporting of hate crimes.

[CorahsDad]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

I believe the Muslim community needs to be more proactive and vocal in sending the right message as violence of any kind is wrong and not supported by true followers.

Reflect for a moment about how arrogant you sound. You are a non-Muslim. You have probably never read the Islamic scriptures. Yet you presume to know what "true followers" of Islam ought to do and what they ought to think about violence.

Sorry if I'm wrong, but please... if you think "true followers" of Islam ought to do that, then can you at least base your position on the Islamic scriptures? If not then you're just talking out of your butt.

[bigskinner]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Classic example of being "part of the problem". Not "part of the solution".

Good troll post. Classic actually. Maybe one of the best this year.

Innocent people are not "they" and "them" in a normal sane person's brain.

You don't understand , when l say they l mean ISIS , when l say we l mean white folks , and them also means ISIS .

Now if ISIS can kill innocent white folk , by driving into a crowd , then this white guy is thinking OK , l,ll run my truck into some innocent Muslems , wearing black and the face coverings , and that's exactly what happened here.

Why are you attacking me , calling me a troll , and acusing me of not having a normal brain , l just stated my opinion on what happened , and you say l,m part of the problem , shake your head man.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

You don't understand , when l say they l mean ISIS , when l say we l mean white folks , and them also means ISIS .

Now if ISIS can kill innocent white folk , by driving into a crowd , then this white guy is thinking OK , l,ll run my truck into some innocent Muslems , wearing black and the face coverings , and that's exactly what happened here.

Why are you attacking me , calling me a troll , and acusing me of not having a normal brain , l just stated my opinion on what happened , and you say l,m part of the problem , shake your head man.

When you state running into a crowd of innocent people is payback. That is wrong. Period. That guy was wrong. Condoning his behaviour is wrong. Making excuses for a wrong doesn't make a right.

And after your posts I am still shaking my head in disbelief.

[bigskinner]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

When you state running into a crowd of innocent people is payback. That is wrong. Period. That guy was wrong. Condoning his behaviour is wrong. Making excuses for a wrong doesn't make a right.

And after your posts I am still shaking my head in disbelief.

And you still don't understand my post , GOOD GRIEF , where did l say what he did was right , of course its wrong , l,m not condoning anything here ,did l say l condon it NO , but what do you expect from our side , when the Muslem groups kill innocent people , in fact 3 times now.

And when this white guy ran his vehicle into innocent muslems , it was a revenge attack , no question about it , that's all l,m stating and it was .
Shake your head again , this time read the post closer

[waterninja]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

White man plows van into Muslim worshipers. Things could get ugly, Isis strategy of hatred seems to be winning out.

http://medicinehatnews.com/news/worl...ue-10-injured/

ISIS probably planned this one also. Perfect excuse to say they have to retaliate, and gain some support for thier cause. Oldest trick in the book.

[CaberTosser]

Just as there's no such thing as reverse racism, there's no such thing as reverse terrorism; they are simply racism and terrorism. There is no justification in what that person did, just as there is no justification in what jihadists do. He had no way of knowing what was in those people's hearts & minds, or what they had done in their lives.

It seems also that many people have a short memory, or a memory of convenience as there was the attack on a Mosque just this past January in Montreal where 6 people were killed. How does something 5 months ago in our own nation get forgotten? I think it's because people are callous towards the suffering of groups with whom they can't identify. It's pretty cut and dried that this attacker is just as bad a person as jihadists because he attacked random people. Without being able to identify to 100% certainty if the target of their hate is an active jihadist then one simply cannot justify such an action, they clearly just hate the entire group (its called racism). Heck, even if they knew a person was up to no good (knowledge being way different than suspicion) its certainly not up to them to pursue revenge, there are a myriad of police agencies to officially deal with bad guys. The instant it's OK to run amok committing summary executions then we'll have lost both our society and our humanity. It's the same as that white supremacy group that just popped up in AO's radar last week, hatred painted with a wide roller.

I can't believe people can endorse such an attack and delude themselves to believe that's any different than what the mentally ill and brainwashed among the Muslims (or any other group) who attack western societies do. Evil is evil, there's no justifying it. If someone is attacking by all means defend yourself and others, but for Pete's sake only counter-attack an actual attacker, not people who resemble them or who happen to be similarly pigmented or who might have attended the same place of worship, eaten at the same cafe, shopped at the same store, etc.

When a white person goes on a killing rampage we investigate what drove them to their criminal act, we don't go and kill a bunch of random white people in retaliation because they were in the same identifiable group just to be on the safe side....

[Flight01]

The incident is sad. Just like the others have been.

What really boils me is the "white" driver drove through a group of "Muslims"

What is that? It may be the facts but it seems to be front and center to be sensational.

We're the recent attacks titled " brown man drives through group of mixed religion people"?

Again sad. No one should do this crap.

Also, breaking news .... white people can be Muslim too. It always seems like media titles are leading people to believe it's a race thing or what not.
It just so happens most Muslims are Arabic or North African it's not race specific so why bring my in the "white" thing to the discussion.

I shake my head.

Anyway. Everyone have a good day.