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Old 05-01-2020, 11:15 AM
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Default Why can't I find what guns where used in the Nova Scotia shooting?

Crazy how are Banning assault rifles because of the latest shooting and we don't even know what guns were used in the shooting.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:43 AM
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Because it doesn't fit the narrative
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Because it doesn't fit the narrative
True!

I did briefly see something that led me to believe it was a M14 type, but that could be misinformation. The Mounties are being very tight lipped so far.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:55 PM
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I did briefly see something that led me to believe it was a M14 type, but that could be misinformation. The Mounties are being very tight lipped so far.
That silence would be due to Bill Blair's roll of duct tape and his penchant for concealing the truth.
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It's hard for them to talk through a gag order, I also heard something along the lines that only about 1/2 the victims were actually shot and cause of death was as a result of the fires that were set ?? can't confirm though, anybody know anything of this ??
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It's hard for them to talk through a gag order, I also heard something along the lines that only about 1/2 the victims were actually shot and cause of death was as a result of the fires that were set ?? can't confirm though, anybody know anything of this ??
And article I saw indicated something like 9 of the 22 died by fire. But one rationalizes that the victims would probably have run to escape the burning buildings if he wasn't waiting outside to shoot them...
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Old 05-01-2020, 07:16 PM
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The RCMP are trying to distance themselves from the whole event do to their incompetent handling of the incident.I believe there is more to what happened than what is being told and the Mounties don t like looking bad so the best defence is to keep quiet so the blame falls on someone else's shoulders.Also even the news now is failing to mention that the guns involved were obtained illegally .There are a lot of people in NS though that aren't t being fooled by the rcmp or Trudeau and don t be surprised if class action lawsuits aren t filed against the Mounties for their incompetence

When it comes to this incident and the rcmp an old saying come to mind

Silence speaks volumes

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Old 05-01-2020, 07:38 PM
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my bet is he used a long rifle to kill the constable, then he stole her handgun, shotgun and AR15 and used those on his rampage.
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I'm willing to bet the majority or all those that died as a result of a firearm were killed by firearms stolen from the RCMP. Perhaps even some of those reported lost prior to the event.
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All I've found is that outside of the one stolen from the RCMP after killing her was the assumption they were brought "illegally" into Canada from the USA. will be interesting to see if they ever say...
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Seeing as some were killed with one of the RCMP officers own weapon I'm willing to bet that none of the shooters firearms were any greater than that which would lead one to believe the used some sort of handgun.
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The authorities won't release that information unless it supports their agenda.
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The authorities won't release that information unless it supports their agenda.
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High powered rifle, high capacity magazine, concealed weapon, etc., all the verbal diarrhea they usually spew is notably absent.

They're deflecting again, either out of ignorance or incompetence, what a choice.
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The authorities won't release that information unless it supports their agenda.
There will be an inquiry, by law, but that result normally takes up to 4 or 5 years. Could be as soon a 2.

That infomation will be public at that point. Might have to do records searches, but the media will be all over this one.
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Old 05-02-2020, 05:39 AM
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This semi-auto ban has been in the works for several years. It was a campaign promise in the last election.
The Nova Scotia shooting is only the latest smoke screen for the Liberal action.
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I'm willing to bet the majority or all those that died as a result of a firearm were killed by firearms stolen from the RCMP. Perhaps even some of those reported lost prior to the event.

I think so too. I bet a lot of the clothing , memorabilia, maybe even car decals came from his Rcmp family members most notably his retired Rcmp uncle .
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This has since been changed by Angus Reid Polls. But it makes one wonder

Can you explain to me where you got the information from in your article "Four-in-five Canadians support complete ban on civilian possession of assault style weapons"

that states at the bottom of page 2 of 7"These include the AR-15 that was used in the Nova Scotia shooting" This information has still not been released by the RCMP and such would mean a breach of security.

Thank you for your time.

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I think so too. I bet a lot of the clothing , memorabilia, maybe even car decals came from his Rcmp family members most notably his retired Rcmp uncle .
Incredibly doubtful as he had threatened to KILL his Uncle in the past.

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Old 05-03-2020, 06:09 PM
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This is copied fromt the Angus Reid foundations non redacted poll on firearms.
Pay attention to the high lighter bold text. They changed it out now but I doubt this was a over site on their part.


Widespread support for banning assault weapons, handguns
As Nova Scotians and Canadians across the country continue to mourn the loss of 22 people, killed in a
mass shooting in April, the Liberal government appears set to move on a long-promised ban on assault
weapons in Canada.
Importantly, the classification of an “assault weapon” is not currently a term with legal definition in
Canada. In its recent research, however, the federal government describes this type of weapon as “semiautomatic
firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire.”
These include the AR-15 that was used in the Nova Scotia shooting, the Ruger Mini-14, used in the Ecole
Polytechnique massacre in Montreal in 1989, and the CSA-VZ-58, which was carried by the gunman in
the Quebec Mosque shooting in 2017.
These weapons and others are expected to be banned by the Liberal government through an order-incouncil.
The ban is something the vast majority of Canadians have been supportive of in recent years.
Nearly four-in-five Canadians canvassed between April 28 – 30 say they support a complete ban on
civilian possession of such weapons. While opinions may have hardened slightly after the tragedy in
Nova Scotia, it is worth noting that support for such a ban was already at this level last year when the
Angus Reid Institute studied the issue:
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This is copied fromt the Angus Reid foundations non redacted poll on firearms.
Pay attention to the high lighter bold text. They changed it out now but I doubt this was a over site on their part.


Widespread support for banning assault weapons, handguns
As Nova Scotians and Canadians across the country continue to mourn the loss of 22 people, killed in a
mass shooting in April, the Liberal government appears set to move on a long-promised ban on assault
weapons in Canada.
Importantly, the classification of an “assault weapon” is not currently a term with legal definition in
Canada. In its recent research, however, the federal government describes this type of weapon as “semiautomatic
firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire.”
These include the AR-15 that was used in the Nova Scotia shooting, the Ruger Mini-14, used in the Ecole
Polytechnique massacre in Montreal in 1989, and the CSA-VZ-58, which was carried by the gunman in
the Quebec Mosque shooting in 2017.
These weapons and others are expected to be banned by the Liberal government through an order-incouncil.
The ban is something the vast majority of Canadians have been supportive of in recent years.
Nearly four-in-five Canadians canvassed between April 28 – 30 say they support a complete ban on
civilian possession of such weapons. While opinions may have hardened slightly after the tragedy in
Nova Scotia, it is worth noting that support for such a ban was already at this level last year when the
Angus Reid Institute studied the issue:
Is it possible that the AR-15 mentioned , was taken from the RCMP officer? Unless they release details, we won't know.
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Incredibly doubtful as he had threatened to KILL his Uncle in the past.

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Before or after his threats?Or did he just steal them?
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Is it possible that the AR-15 mentioned , was taken from the RCMP officer? Unless they release details, we won't know.
It couldn’t have been because they use carbines, not AR15’s
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Is it possible that the AR-15 mentioned , was taken from the RCMP officer? Unless they release details, we won't know.
I do not think they will release the details anytime soon. Angus Reid stated to me that they had used a reference from another source incorrectly. I asked for a link to that source.
I think they have some leaked information to make their poll they conducted, more noteworthy. time will tell.
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I do not think they will release the details anytime soon. Angus Reid stated to me that they had used a reference from another source incorrectly. I asked for a link to that source.
I think they have some leaked information to make their poll they conducted, more noteworthy. time will tell.
I don't expect to see any details released for years, and if the officer's firearms were used to commit further crimes, I wonder if they would ever divulge that.
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It couldn’t have been because they use carbines, not AR15’s
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I know. But if you and I had it, it's an ar15. I guess you missed the sarcasm.
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The usual reason for with holding information from the public is that doing so might jeopardize an upcoming court case. In this case, the main is dead, so it must be the risk of jeopardizing potential court cases against the RCMP ?
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I know. But if you and I had it, it's an ar15. I guess you missed the sarcasm.
If you or I had it ......it's an assault rifle.............when the police have it ....it's a patrol carbine. Clear enough?
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The RCMP have released an update.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaki...342K2DAUt-RQIY
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