i like to be 100' behind boat to 120'
also a Williams Wobbler then a swivel and a fly or worm using a threader
they also work with a small flatfish or hotshot
spoons trolled or f7 flatfish n bigger hotshots
if big lake fishing and the fish are down then a downrigger works great
lake trolls with worms n ford fenders or small flashers too
if you had side planer boards it helps when trolling
of course the raps work well with casting or trolling
if you anchor then cast n or fly fish(indicator still water) or bobber fish works
don't be shy to experiment with colors for darker or sunny days
as always this is
Food for thought
David