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Old 11-15-2018, 09:21 PM
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Or a couple 48” pipelines....of the H2O kind from major rivers in Washington or Oregon.
That misses the entire point. Desalination plants would work during droughts to help alleviate them. Tapping into rivers that are having low flow years (poor snow pack, low precipitation) and reducing these rivers natural flow rates as they have already done with the Colorado has bad consequences. My suggestion is to tap the literally unlimited water resource along their huge coastline.

Here's an interesting presentation on the Colorado River, its not the one I had seen previously, but both showed what has happened to it, it no longer reaches the Sea of Cortez.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5uJrWW1gE
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:47 AM
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They should build a dozen massive desalination plants. Israel did, as did other middle eastern nations. Capetown needs one desperately. Make them wind or solar powered for all I care, just build them. I've seen footage of the outflow of the Colorado and its shameful. Wasteful, greedy Californians
Blame those that buy and/or produce the agricultural produce that is grown using that water.

Heck, they grow hay there that is shipped overseas.

As well, most of the lands burning are federal lands, not state lands.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:51 AM
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Yup and we all grouch when lettuce goes up 50 cents.....dang wasteful farmers
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:31 PM
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This says a lot about water in California.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Aqueduct

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Do you believe in coincidences....

dianne feinstein husband won this contract...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/12/cali...n-trouble.html
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:36 PM
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Do you believe in coincidences....

dianne feinstein husband won this contract...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/12/cali...n-trouble.html
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...vernment-deal/
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This will probably get me kicked off the site but **** Neil Young.
Lynyrd Skynyrd had it partially right...northern man don’t want the puss wad around either...
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Old 11-17-2018, 07:48 AM
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Trump was on CNN blaming California for their own fires, saying if they do not get them under control there would be no more Federal money for them.
He should have pointed out to all those that lost their east coast homes due to flooding that they shouldn't be building on flood plains or low lying ground.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:07 AM
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I was watcing an interview a few days ago on Fox where a guy said he saw people running through the streets trying to escape and their hair was on fire.

Sounds like Hell On Earth To Me!
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:41 AM
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Lynyrd Skynyrd had it partially right...northern man don’t want the puss wad around either...
Hahaha, I love that.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:57 PM
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Do you believe in coincidences....

dianne feinstein husband won this contract...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/12/cali...n-trouble.html
California must be run by Nenshi's brother. State has trouble paying it's civil servants and utility suppliers,, but they keep building.

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Old 11-28-2018, 07:46 AM
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"Forest fire" aftermath.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmlxcLKryl0
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:09 PM
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In BC this past summer, with all of the fires, the environazi's were all screaming climate change, meanwhile, everyone in forest management was trying to scream a little louder, that the lack of proper forest management from BC in the recent past has contributed greatly to the mega fires.

Thankfully, the BC government has taken notice and is now discussing changes to how they manage the forests to help reduce the severity of the fires in upcoming seasons.

That takes away from the climate change propaganda and I'm sure they'll start protesting forest management like they did in the past. These fools would rather see people lose homes and wild life displaced on a massive level rather than give up on their agenda. If BC can manage to reduce the severity of fires due to proper forest management and preventive measures, the envirofreaks won't be able to use the fires as an example for their climate change hype.
Global warming is indeed creating more favorable conditions for wildfires. Droughts, extreme weather, the pine beetle explosion and changes in yearly precip. can all be tied to global warming.

This comes from the IPCC, the gold standard in peer reviewed work on climate change.

You are correct with forest management. If your going to insist on living in the forest your going to pay the price when a fire rips through as sometimes we simply cannot stop them. Spacing out the crowns, building breaks and removing deadfall and undergrowth can help prevent this.

As to the original post, California's fires move fast and large fuels with little ladder fuels will not burn as the fire rips below. Complete combustion of smaller fuels underneath happens before the larger fuels can catch leaving green trees in the black. We call this a surface fire, large fires with torching trees are called crown fires and happen in areas with tight packed conifers such as spruce and pine. We see these in BC and Alberta.

In addition, certain species of trees don't like to burn (Cedar, Aspen, Larch..).

Ex. Aspen stand will almost never burn or support a crown fire, (extreme drought can change this- I've witnessed it)

Just my 2 cents after 6 seasons on wildfire crews.
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Ahhh I seem to have misplaced my tinfoil hat
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Ahhh I seem to have misplaced my tinfoil hat
Step 1 secretly buy up every tinfoil manufacturer and distributor.

Step 2 travel far and wide spreading crazy conspiracies.

Step 3 PROFIT like an evil genius.
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