Metis status question

[Guitarplayingfish]

I have a friend who has Metis status... she was wondering where she can find info on fishing/hunting licenses and stuff.. anyone know?

Pretty sure she can fish without a license provided she follows the regs... How does hunting work though?

Does anyone know where I can find more information for her?


Thanks

[crosbyfan123]

Originally Posted by Guitarplayingfish

I have a friend who has Metis status... she was wondering where she can find info on fishing/hunting licenses and stuff.. anyone know?

Pretty sure she can fish without a license provided she follows the regs... How does hunting work though?

Does anyone know where I can find more information for her?


Thanks

As long as she has her status card she is untouchable.

[Okotokian]

Oh boy, this should be fun. I'm calling IBTL two days in advance.

[Guitarplayingfish]

Originally Posted by crosbyfan123

As long as she has her status card she is untouchable.

Yes, but what about hunting? Does she need tags? Can she do it whenever she wants?

I'm looking for this type of information

[JohninAB]

Is this a serious question? IBTL

[Sooner]

She should go talk to her local F & W office just to be sure she gets the correct info on both fishing and hunting issues.

[Lefty-Canuck]

LOL....I am not even going to comment on this one

Best to call SRD, F&W and go with their recommendations.

LC

[pophouseman]

Eye Bee Tea Ell

[Yéil]

Tell your friend to contact the Metis Nation of Alberta.

http://www.albertametis.com

They have a policy and qualification criteria for harvesters.

[Alberta Bigbore]

As stated in the Alberta Fishing regulations:


"Sportfishing by Indians

Indians do not need an Alberta Sportfishing Licence or WiN card for general sportfishing, however all other sportfishing regulations apply equally to all persons, including Indians. Indians are persons registered as Indians under the Indian Act."


Hope this helps...keep the thread civil..... thx

[thunderheart]

interesting questions ... my wife is METIS and here in BC there is almost zero harvest rights .....

good people i hope this thread remains civil

[Alberta Bigbore]

Originally Posted by Guitarplayingfish

Yes, but what about hunting? Does she need tags? Can she do it whenever she wants?

I'm looking for this type of information

I'm sensing trolling with heavy braided line and deep diving crank baits?

But......since this thread hasn't derailed yet


Best she does the responsible thing, and finds out for herself right from the people who make the rules, as it will be her butt on the line, not yours if she doesn't have her facts straight on Metis status hunting/fishing. That is the best advice and info you could give her.

[dale7637]

Yep....... IBTL

[bb356]

Originally Posted by Yéil

Tell your friend to contact the Metis Nation of Alberta.

http://www.albertametis.com

They have a policy and qualification criteria for harvesters.

x 1000 !!!

[Redneck Renagade]

^^^^^^x2

[duffy4]

Originally Posted by Yéil

Tell your friend to contact the Metis Nation of Alberta.

http://www.albertametis.com

They have a policy and qualification criteria for harvesters.

I would say better to talk to Fish & Wildlife. They will explain what the Gov't. policy and regulations ARE.

The Metis Nation of Alberta may explain what they think the situation should be.

[bb356]

Thank's duffy ............ IBTL !!!

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by bb356

Thank's duffy ............ IBTL !!!

X2...

Way to speed up the process Duffy4

LC

[Saltmania]

My wife is Metis so this interested me.
There is contention between the AB government and the Metis Nation of Alberta on this topic. I'd side with the SRD position to be safe. Unless of course your friend is trying to prove a point

See below for more detail:

http://www.srd.alberta.ca/FishWildli...a-Jun-2010.pdf

[crosbyfan123]

No you dont need tags if your an indian.

[Alberta Bigbore]

Originally Posted by crosbyfan123

No you dont need tags if your an indian.

.....and there's the pitch........ Right over the plate and.....

[TROLLER]

Originally Posted by Guitarplayingfish

Yes, but what about hunting? Does she need tags? Can she do it whenever she wants?

I'm looking for this type of information

Sounds to me like you are more interested in finding out what you can shoot as long as she tags along.

And no you cannot hunt with her anytime you like. Metis do not have the same no rules as the natives. Ralph gave it to them but the courts took it away thankfully.

Now tell he to go buy a license like the rest of us.

[Redneck Renagade]

IBTL

[Alberta Bigbore]

Originally Posted by TROLLER

Sounds to me like you are more interested in finding out what you can shoot as long as she tags along.

And no you cannot hunt with her anytime you like. Metis do not have the same no rules as the natives. Ralph gave it to them but the courts took it away thankfully.

Now tell he to go buy a license like the rest of us.

there is FAIL in this post.....anyone care to point it out?

[Yéil]

AB, while there are regulations set down for those persons that fall under the Indian Act, Metis folks are not under the Indian Act (neither are Inuit). I think a number of people tend to get muddled on that point.

Duffy, While I can agree that SRD and the Govt of Alberta have the final word on what is correct, as the OP's friend is Metis, she may wish to speak to those who have challenged the harvesting rights (or limits thereof). In order to claim a perceived right, in this instance a Metis right to harvest, one also has to be aware if they meet the criteria to be considered Metis AND whether they wish to engage in the politics surrounding the rights to harvest. Once the OP's friend contacts the Metis Council she can decide how she wants to proceed or even if she meets the criteria to proceed. Lots of families have the folklore that there is a Native ancestor, very few families can actually prove it with their documentation (not questioning this person in particular - just saying lots of folks say they are Metis when they can't actually prove it but will swear they are because of family lore) - If I was about to embark on challenging a harvesting right, I'd want to be absolutely sure I could hold up those claims in a court.

Just to give you an example of how some of the politics play out. Back in 1996 we signed off on our land claims agreement in the Yukon. While I am considered a beneficiary of that land claim, I do not consider those beneficiary rights to extend beyond the borders of my land claim territory. While I know I can hunt and fish here in Alberta/Sask without the necessity of licences, I made a conscious decision not to and obtained all the licenses I may require. I signed on to the agreement with the YT not here. If I'm outside of my own territory in the YT, I get a licence for either hunting and fishing.

[bushwackin]

Originally Posted by Alberta Bigbore

.....and there's the pitch........ Right over the plate and.....

You're so funny

[thunderheart]

quoted from the alberta metis website re metis rights


In 1982, after generations of fighting for justice, the existing Aboriginal and Treaty rights of Canada’s Aboriginal peoples received constitutional protection.

Section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982 provides:

The existing aboriginal and treaty rights of the aboriginal peoples of Canada are hereby recognized and affirmed.
In this Act, “aboriginal peoples of Canada” includes the Indian, Inuit and Métis peoples of Canada.

This constitutional protection was a victory for all Aboriginal peoples in Canada. For the Métis Nation, the explicit inclusion of the Métis in s. 35 was viewed as a new beginning after over 100 years of denial, avoidance and neglect by governments in Canada. Even within the Parliament of Canada, section 35 was described as a “political watershed” and a “turning point for the status of native peoples” in Canada.

Unfortunately, since 1982, s. 35 has remained largely an unfulfilled promise to the Métis Nation, with governments in Canada taking the position that the Métis had no existing Aboriginal rights protected by s. 35; thereby, refusing to negotiate or deal with the Métis people and their rights. In response to these steadfast federal and provincial government positions, beginning in the early 1990s, the Métis Nation began its ‘hunt for justice’ in the courts, in order to attempt to breathe life into the constitutional commitment made in 1982.

As a part of this on going ‘hunt for justice’, the Supreme Court of Canada heard R. v. Powley in March of 2003. Powley was the first case where the issues of the purpose of s. 35 to the Métis and whether the Métis have existing Aboriginal rights were before the highest court in Canada On September 19, 2003, in a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court affirmed what the Métis people have been saying for over twenty years - s. 35 is a substantive promise to the Métis that recognizes their distinct existence and protects their existing Aboriginal rights.

The Powley decision marks a new day for the Métis Nation in Canada. The Supreme Court’s decision is a respectful affirmation of what the Métis people have always believed and stood up for, as well as, an opportunity for Canada to begin fulfilling its substantive promise to the Métis.

Metis National Council

[Rainbow]

Guitarplayingfish;
Tell your friend that the Metis in Alberta have NO,NO,NO harvesting rights even if they have their Membership Card.
All Metis have to buy sportfishing licences and all licences to hunt big game in Alberta
NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!
Rainbow

[pseelk]

IIRC this applies only on thier native lands.IE land that was traditionly Metis.

[duffy4]

Powley was the first case where the issues of the purpose of s. 35 to the Métis and whether the Métis have existing Aboriginal rights were before the highest court in Canada On September 19, 2003, in a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court affirmed what the Métis people have been saying for over twenty years - s. 35 is a substantive promise to the Métis that recognizes their distinct existence and protects their existing Aboriginal rights.

The Powley decision marks a new day for the Métis Nation in Canada. The Supreme Court’s decision is a respectful affirmation of what the Métis people have always believed and stood up for, as well as, an opportunity for Canada to begin fulfilling its substantive promise to the Métis.

Metis National Council
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That is exactly what I was hinting at in my earlier post. They have put their own spin on the Prowley case.

Fish and wildlife is saying "No Metis do not have blanket rights to hunt anywhere and anytime because of the Prowley case."

No lock yet as people are being civil. All you "IBTL" types are wrong again.