Grizzly Numbers Up

[hunterngather]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

The anti’s just lie and spread it through social media and junk outlets like the CBC

Then we have to fight tooth and nail to prove what the truth is

Always a step behind

That's why an accurate count of predators in areas and accounts from bios is needed.

Can be done on the cheap from drones.

[marky_mark]

The bios couldn’t count them correctly in the first place
That’s why it was shut down

Drones only fly for 30 min and they aren’t very good looking into trees

[Howard Hutchinson]

Maybe if enough farmers and ranchers complained about their encroachment and loss of animals, they may bend? This being said, I guess I cannot comment on how many are lost to them other than on this forum, who have shared their intel.

[1899b]

Originally Posted by Puma

So do I keep the priority I bought/earned for the Grizzly hunt?

Your priority is an imaginary stat. Not sure of your age, but myself at 49, the way our snowflake society is heading, I will not see the hunt ever opened again in my lifetime.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by hunterngather

That's why an accurate count of predators in areas and accounts from bios is needed.

Can be done on the cheap from drones.

Do you think that the government actually wants this to happen? If the actual numbers came out and showed a huge increase, there would be even more pressure to open a season, and they could no longer claim that the numbers are too low for a hunt, which is a convenient way to avoid having to deal with the political arguments.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Do you think that the government actually wants this to happen? If the actual numbers came out and showed a huge increase, there would be even more pressure to open a season, and they could no longer claim that the numbers are too low for a hunt, which is a convenient way to avoid having to deal with the political arguments.

Government estimates tend to be conservative. if they claim double, chances are triple is probably more accurate.

Grizz

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

The bios couldn’t count them correctly in the first place
That’s why it was shut down

They could have had a pretty accurate count and probably did. It just didn't fit their agenda so they ignored them preferring conjured up numbers to fit that agenda. Stopping the hunt was a political move, had nothing to do with sensible management.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

They could have had a pretty accurate count and probably did. It just didn't fit their agenda so they ignored them preferring conjured up numbers to fit that agenda. Stopping the hunt was a political move, had nothing to do with sensible management.

From my understanding it was a poorly done count because the spent there efforts in poor grizzly habitat and little time in prime areas

Either way it was viewed as a questionable count back then

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

From my understanding it was a poorly done count because the spent there efforts in poor grizzly habitat and little time in prime areas

Either way it was viewed as a questionable count back then

I still have a bear crap collecting kit around somewhere. Temptation was to take it with me to Alaska and get a sample.

Grizz

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

I still have a bear crap collecting kit around somewhere. Temptation was to take it with me to Alaska and get a sample.

Grizz

I thought that program came out after the hunt was shutdown

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

I thought that program came out after the hunt was shutdown

It was the most recent one, before that they wanted hair samples.

Grizz

[Map Maker]

Originally Posted by Scott N

It was a political decision to end the grizzly hunt in Alberta, and I doubt any politician will have the intestinal fortitude to reverse it.

Very true and our toughest premier (Klein) was the one who cancelled it under pressure.
It would be great, but I can’t see it happening.

[OL_JR]

I dunno fellas you very well might be right that grizzlies have become way to politicized for a future hunt but a video Jason Nixon posted to his facebook page recently gives me the notion that maybe, just maybe there is a chance.

There is no mention of a hunt and I'm reading between the lines a bit.

I think if there were ever a chance at a hunt again this would be the environment minister to go through with it, so maybe take some time and send him an email.

I'd love to see a hunt happen even if I don't ever get to hunt them.

[marky_mark]

Well they better do it now, when it’s as far from an election as possible

[RACKER]

What is a sustainable number for the hunt to be reopened again?Also how many tags should there be. With so many government cutbacks I’m guessing there is a lot less money now available for research and studies of bear numbers. It’s easy to blame the bios but I’m sure they don’t have an easy job. Also I’m sure where bears threaten livestock the farmers have their own way of dealing with the problem.They won’t be waiting to call local authorities to come check out the situation.

[Big Grey Wolf]

The fact that Kenny has no money $$, he is looking for ways to save $$, like firing nurses. F & W spend alot of money dealing with problem grizz these days. Kenny could change it from expense to revenue stream by allowing a modest hunt with fairly expensive license draw.
We have Way to many grizz for limited wilderness now in Alberta.