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Salmon Poachers caught and found guilty
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04-10-2021, 06:39 PM
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If fish poachers have their boat seized why don’t drug dealers have their cars seized?
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04-10-2021, 08:41 PM
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Read that the poachers were three from Washington State.
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04-10-2021, 08:58 PM
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Fined somewhere in the neighbourhood of $90,000 and a lifetime ban on fishing in Canada. That’s what we need more of.
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04-11-2021, 11:29 PM
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If fish poachers have their boat seized why don’t drug dealers have their cars seized?
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I think they do , and anything that they can link to proceeds of crime . Either they don’t own the car or they are just using someone else car .
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04-12-2021, 07:56 AM
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The boat was not seized but the engines were. Weird plea deal.
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04-12-2021, 08:10 AM
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The boat was not seized but the engines were. Weird plea deal.
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I read it had something to do with the wife being on the registration.
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04-12-2021, 10:00 AM
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The boat was not seized but the engines were. Weird plea deal.
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I was thinking, the cops have no place to store the boats and without them, they are useless. 
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04-12-2021, 10:27 AM
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I was thinking, the cops have no place to store the boats and without them, they are useless.
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The twin Yamaha 300 outboard motors could cost $65000 to replace. I wish they hadn’t accepted a plea bargain and just confiscated the boat as a whole. Sale price would of greatly helped pay for enforcement.
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04-12-2021, 10:33 AM
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We saw that boat while fishing in Nootka. Glad they were caught and punished (sort of).
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04-12-2021, 11:37 AM
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I’m not sure what you guys would have thought would be sufficient punishment?
It cost them an estimated $90,000 in fines and a lifetime ban on fishing in Canada. One article mentioned it will affect them even entering Canada for any reason. And for what? A bunch of skanky springs past their prime and some bottom fish.
What does having fisheries regulations even matter when a segment of society can set nets up on the river, keep whatever they want then come the next year throw what wasn’t consumed and is freezer burnt out on the side of the logging road just to rub it in the nose of those who don’t have the privilege then go get more?
I’d say the fish cops did a great job and this case will make poachers think twice about keeping more than their limit. The risk vs reward is just not there and this case proves it.
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04-12-2021, 11:47 AM
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The twin Yamaha 300 outboard motors could cost $65000 to replace. I wish they hadn’t accepted a plea bargain and just confiscated the boat as a whole. Sale price would of greatly helped pay for enforcement.
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Forfeiture of the boat would have been a much better penalty, however disposal may have been a problem as the boat was registered in the U.S. Additionally I believe the boat was registered to the spouse of one of the suspects. If she was not present, and had no knowledge of the offences, it may have been a decision by the Crown and the Judge not to order forfeiture.
The fine that was levied, and the forfeiture of the engines, is a substantial penalty - over $150k which hopefully sends a strong message to those who want to plunder the resources.
Great work by the RCMP and DFO, and those who reported the offences to get a conviction in this case. Had other anglers not stepped up to report this, the offences would have probably gone undetected.
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04-12-2021, 12:43 PM
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Why weren't they named? Wierd.
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04-12-2021, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Conservation
Forfeiture of the boat would have been a much better penalty, however disposal may have been a problem as the boat was registered in the U.S. Additionally I believe the boat was registered to the spouse of one of the suspects. If she was not present, and had no knowledge of the offences, it may have been a decision by the Crown and the Judge not to order forfeiture.
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That was the case. Were the co-owner to challenge boat forfeiture, she almost certainly would have won. So, they took the engines in lieu thereof. Makes sense.
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Why weren't they named? Wierd.
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Justy have to dig a little deeper is all...
Three Washington state men - Geoffrey Aaron Hoover, Johnathan Nollan Magee and Bradley Stephen Wolgamott.
Total of eleven counts filed against them.
Convicted.
Don't think they will be coming back.
Nog
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