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Originally Posted by MK2750
And here lies the problem. These people are not "sucking it up" they are going over the edge and killing innocent people. The fall out is "do gooders" banning firearms because they lack the intelligence to realize the true root of the problem. They don't understand the cause so they blame the weapon.
You will never meet a more "sink or swim" type of conservative than I. This is not about people slower than others or too lazy to get on with life. We are talking about people with an illness.
If you think that having a bad day or having violent thoughts and not acting out is somehow controlling mental illness you are sadly mistaken. We all have bad days and we all have crazy thoughts go through our minds.
These people suffer from a physical illness that affects their mental well being. Their thoughts are not normal. Many are extremely intelligent and very successful.
Your view of the subject is like telling a cancer patient to get off that radiation and chemo crap and get a job. You like many others simply don't understand.
You are right in saying that the vast majority of mental illness is no big deal and you are also right in that sometimes a blunt dose of reality is all that is needed.
That was the purpose of my post.
Someone says "mentally ill" and you are thrown into a group with sociopathic murders. People do not seek help because they do not want this to happen.
Would you like to loose a family member to a disease that is curable because they are too embarrassed to come forward. If you have a daughter you better learn about eating disorders.
•One in 200 American women suffers from anorexia.
•Two to three in 100 American women suffers from bulimia.
•1.1% - 4.2% of females suffer from bulimia nervosa in their lifetime.
•As many as 10% of college women suffer from a clinical or nearly clinical eating disorder, including 5.1% who suffer from bulimia nervosa.
•Studies indicate that by their first year of college, 4.5 to 18% of women and 0.4% of men have a history of bulimia.
You say go cry to someone else?
The number one cause of disability in the USA and Canada is mental illness.
Do you realize how much this is costing you?
Do you realize how you would feel if you were to loose a loved one to mental illness? Whether through suicide or a victim of violent crime I would bet money your view of meds and therapy would change rather quickly.
If people could get treated for these common disorders without ridicule (like in your post) we could allow the 1 in 4 to lead a more normal life, identify the 1 in 20 that are becoming seriously ill and unable to cope, and more importantly get the truly insane off the streets before they start killing people.
Please educate yourself on this important issue. I guarantee you there is someone in your life that could use some support and understanding.
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My problem is that you are lumping in alot of issues that are not issues that cause someone to go and shoot up a school full of kids into the stats in order to make the numbers seem like they are more of a problem.
I dont believe that many women that are bulimic or anorexic are going to commit mass shootings. I also dont believe that when they come forward with their problem, that people are going to call them insane or sociopathic murderers. Yes, you are screwed up, go get help, just try not to act like a victim all of the time. The mens magazines out there tell me that if I am not ripped and tan that I wont get any women. That didnt mean that I headed straight to the gym, then the tanning salon right after I looked for a steroid dealer. People need to deal with their own reality and not what they want, we all cant have the fairytale.
I also dont believe that it is super easy to diagnose ADD now, when I was growing up that was called not paying attention and you usually got a smack for it. Not given a pill every day to level you out.
I do believe that there are
seriously ill people out there and I do support getting help for them. When they do something awful, people choose to ignore the signs as well and then we get to hear about how so many people knew he/she was "off".
Comparing my analogy to cancer is ridiculous on your part, as having ADD as a mild form of mental illness is no where comparable to any sort of cancer, I would know as there is cancer and ADD in my family.
It is costing everyone a ton of money because stress leave is easy to take. Just find a doctor willing to sign the note. Everyone is full of excuses for everything and there are so many people out there that make molehills into mountains because everybody needs to be heard. I just cant deal with it! Ok, no problem, here is your note.
My point is where does it end and when do we say to some of the people it is just time to grow up?