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01-20-2013, 05:05 AM
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unregistered handgun question
A buddy of mine in Ontario was busted with an unregistered handgun. I wonder what the consecquences are for something like that ?
No he was not carring it. His ex turned him in for it because she was .
Thanks in advance.
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01-20-2013, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Dog_River
A buddy of mine in Ontario was busted with an unregistered handgun. I wonder what the consecquences are for something like that ?
No he was not carring it. His ex turned him in for it because she was .
Thanks in advance.
Dog_River
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Lawyer up NOW!!!
Last I heard minimum for an unregistered handgun is 2yrs and up to 14yrs in prison..
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01-20-2013, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruger1022
Lawyer up NOW!!!
Last I heard minimum for an unregistered handgun is 2yrs and up to 14yrs in prison..
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Guess she won't be getting any spousal support for a while.
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01-20-2013, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kim473
Guess she won't be getting any spousal support for a while.
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stupid vendictive woman, hope she never gets any
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01-20-2013, 07:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog_River
A buddy of mine in Ontario was busted with an unregistered handgun. I wonder what the consecquences are for something like that ?
No he was not carring it. His ex turned him in for it because she was .
Thanks in advance.
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She was packing it?Then it`s her gun."No Officer,never saw that gun before,thank God you caught her before she killed me!"
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01-20-2013, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fisherpeak
She was packing it?Then it`s her gun."No Officer,never saw that gun before,thank God you caught her before she killed me!"
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right on that would have fixed her wagon.
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01-20-2013, 07:56 AM
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Guilty as charged.
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01-20-2013, 08:20 AM
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I think you guys are misreading the OP. she wasn't carrying it.....she turned him in because she was mad.
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01-20-2013, 08:20 AM
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If he did not commit a crime with it and the charge is possession only there my not be any jail time. Likely a fine and maybe parole.
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01-20-2013, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Battle Rat
If he did not commit a crime with it and the charge is possession only there my not be any jail time. Likely a fine and maybe parole.
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Don't you mean probation. Isn't parole something that happens after jail time? But I agree, jailtime seems excessive if no harm has been done. Definitely a lesson seems appropriate though. And she's a bovine for doing that especially if the fellow has never raised a hand to her. If he did, well....you reap what you sow.
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01-20-2013, 08:34 AM
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This isn't going to go well for him.
Think manditory minimum sentence!
Time to get a firearms specific Lawyer.
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01-20-2013, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gitrdun
Don't you mean probation. Isn't parole something that happens after jail time? But I agree, jailtime seems excessive if no harm has been done. Definitely a lesson seems appropriate though. And she's a bovine for doing that especially if the fellow has never raised a hand to her. If he did, well....you reap what you sow.
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Yes, sorry.
It seems like gun possession charges never result in jail time with the scum bags that should be locked up.
All to often a POed women uses the law to their benefit to gain child custody.
Anything to make the guy look bad.
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01-20-2013, 08:56 AM
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Just curious how he obtained an unregistered handgun?......likely he knows the laws (and his GF\Wife\Ex-wife did to)....wondering why he didn't own it legally?
....and if he didn't own it legally, why did he have it in the first place?
Family heirloom, inheritance?
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01-20-2013, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick284
This isn't going to go well for him.
Think manditory minimum sentence!
Time to get a firearms specific Lawyer.
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I would guess part of the argument will be why he had the gun. Drug running scum or he inherited it from Gramps ? The mandatory minimum is already under attack and is working it's way through the courts. Yup, time to get a lawyer who knows his stuff.
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01-20-2013, 09:02 AM
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Who cares why he owned it, the guy had an unregistered hand gun and the Woman ratted him out.
I read either on here or CGN I believe that someone else was in the exact same posistion as your friend, he was able to get his restricted license and the handgun was returned to him.
Get a lawyer, say nothing and have the woman tossed out of your life forever. She is clearly of low morale and is not trust worthy at all.
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01-20-2013, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
I would guess part of the argument will be why he had the gun. Drug running scum or he inherited it from Gramps ? The mandatory minimum is already under attack and is working it's way through the courts. Yup, time to get a lawyer who knows his stuff.
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It sure seems that some gang banger gets off with a light sentence while the crown busts the balls of gun owners turned criminal through a paper work offence.
I still see rough times coming for this man.
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01-20-2013, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick284
It sure seems that some gang banger gets off with a light sentence while the crown busts the balls of gun owners turned criminal through a paper work offence.
I still see rough times coming for this man.
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I agree....especially since this occurred in Ontario.
LC
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01-20-2013, 09:13 AM
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I have known this guy all my life. Good hardworking guy. No criminal background or intent.
Not sure where the gun came from or even if it was his, but he was charged with possesing it.
Thanks, Dog_River
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01-20-2013, 09:27 AM
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I would fall over backwards if he got slammertime. Ain't gonna happen.
Rough times? Definitely. Slammertime? No.
If you disagree, tell me the factual story, not hearsay, of a guy with no record and a good rep going to jail for illegally possessing a firearm.
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01-20-2013, 09:48 AM
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Plead "mental disorder" due to his ex's abusive ways and mention "what handgun"...maybe it was hers?
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01-20-2013, 09:51 AM
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It’s all talk, if you want to participate in this society you are obligated to adhere to the order, even if you think it wrong.
Get a lawyer.
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01-20-2013, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mutter87
Who cares why he owned it, the guy had an unregistered hand gun and the Woman ratted him out.
I read either on here or CGN I believe that someone else was in the exact same posistion as your friend, he was able to get his restricted license and the handgun was returned to him.
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If the gun was prohibited, stolen, or for some either reason illegal ,he would not be able to get a licence for it or register it if he already had a 12.6 RPAL .
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01-20-2013, 11:11 AM
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I know a guy in Ontario who found an old (but very well cared for) revolver in his father's things after the old guy had died. He knew for a fact it was not registered and that it had not been used in a crime. As much as it's a shame to see a perfectly good gun destroyed, he figured it could only bring him grief if he kept it. It was sawed into tiny pieces with a hacksaw. Problem solved before it became a bigger problem.
Good luck to the OP's friend, maybe this is the problem with mandatory minimum sentences. One size does not fit all when it comes to penalties.
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01-20-2013, 05:42 PM
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.22 pistols
I got two 9 shot .22's registered before my dad died.
One "Saturday night Special" needed to be modified (2 3/4" barrel to 4")
The other "Ruger semiauto" was long enough.
What happens to them when I die in 20 yrs or so?
Maybe I should sell them now!
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01-20-2013, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by axeroad
I got two 9 shot .22's registered before my dad died.
One "Saturday night Special" needed to be modified (2 3/4" barrel to 4")
The other "Ruger semiauto" was long enough.
What happens to them when I die in 20 yrs or so?
Maybe I should sell them now!
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If you have a will that is recognized you can address that issue?
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01-20-2013, 06:17 PM
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Well my estate won't have a PAL.
I guess I'll call the firearms centre......
Now theres something to look forward to!!!!!
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01-20-2013, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by axeroad
Well my estate won't have a PAL.
I guess I'll call the firearms centre......
Now theres something to look forward to!!!!!
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Your executor can legally possess the firearms, PAL or not. I listened to a talk by Dave Tomlinson explaining this. I believe the correct phrase is "through the action of law" or some such. I will try to look up the correct phrase. I don't blame you about the firearms center.
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01-20-2013, 06:35 PM
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If the executor is in place they will be able to process it, maybe make an inquiry to the nfa before the firearms center.
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01-20-2013, 10:25 PM
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All this fuss over a handgun owned by a hard working, law-abiding guy who probably had it stored in his home....
This is all wrong.
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01-21-2013, 05:11 PM
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i just hope your friend seeks legal advice from a lawyer who handles firearm related issues...
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