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03-25-2019, 09:37 PM
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50-100 yard rim fire scope???
I bought a good cz .22 and need some glass, with the high bolt throw does anyone have some good suggestions on what’s been working on the guns.
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03-25-2019, 10:02 PM
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Use medium rings, then you can put pretty much any scope on you want. I put some vortex tactical rings on my CZ and they work great, not to mention look badass.
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03-25-2019, 10:07 PM
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A scope with a small ocular is what you are looking for.
This is a weaver rv9 on a cz 452. Ocular measures about 1.5 inch. Objective lens sits close to the barrel, scope covers just fit.
Most Leupolds will work as they generally have small ocular lenses. I've got a 3-9 x 40 vx-2 on another 452. Ocular measures just under 1.6 inch. Objective sits within 1/10 inch of the barrel.
Bushnell 3500 4-12 x 40 on a 17hmr cz 455 sporter. Ocular measures about 1.6 inch. Objective sits low with about 1/10 inch gap between the barrel.
I'm sure that there's other scopes that accommodate the bolt throw, but those have worked for me.
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03-25-2019, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurt505
Use medium rings, then you can put pretty much any scope on you want. I put some vortex tactical rings on my CZ and they work great, not to mention look badass.
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I tried the Leopold medium rings and the busnell rim fire scope 6-18 and the zoom nob is thick enough that the bolt hits it a bit, lots of the rim fire scopes are thick on the zoom ring,, it’s troubling for sure
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03-25-2019, 10:14 PM
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Which cz is it? If it's a 452 American, you'll have special needs when it comes to rings that fit the weird dovetail. Mine has a vx-1 rimfire 2-7x28 on it. I believe the ocular is also 28 mm. Plenty of clearance with the Talley medium rings. I believe the vx-1 3-9 works with the same rings.
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03-25-2019, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimm
I tried the Leopold medium rings and the busnell rim fire scope 6-18 and the zoom nob is thick enough that the bolt hits it a bit, lots of the rim fire scopes are thick on the zoom ring,, it’s troubling for sure
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I put on the 2 piece picatiny bases first then the rings. Now I have plenty of room with a Cabelas Covenant 4-16x44 scope
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03-25-2019, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by teberle
Which cz is it? If it's a 452 American, you'll have special needs when it comes to rings that fit the weird dovetail. Mine has a vx-1 rimfire 2-7x28 on it. I believe the ocular is also 28 mm. Plenty of clearance with the Talley medium rings. I believe the vx-1 3-9 works with the same rings.
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455 thumb hole heavy fluted barrel
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03-25-2019, 11:59 PM
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Sorry, I thought you were asking about a scope for your cz.
If you are going to use the Bushnell scope that you currently have, taller rings could solve your issue. You might get a larger gap between the barrel and the objective, but the gap may not be an issue for you.
A nice system that saves some aggravation when scoping your cz is to get a rail like a DIP or some J&P adapters. Then you can mount your scope using weaver style rings of which there are many available heights.
Taking your rifle and scope to a gun shop is something to consider. You can check out the ring height right there.
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03-26-2019, 06:18 AM
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I would be rethinking scope choice.
Leupold rimfire scope, either fixed or variable, is a quality glass for modest money and should clear the bolt with lower rings matched to the CZ.
I always thought that adding make-do adapters to purpose designed CZ dovetails was a poor choice.
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03-26-2019, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by saskbooknut
I would be rethinking scope choice.
Leupold rimfire scope, either fixed or variable, is a quality glass for modest money and should clear the bolt with lower rings matched to the CZ.
I always thought that adding make-do adapters to purpose designed CZ dovetails was a poor choice.
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CZ has an 11mm dovetail which limits the rings you can use. “Make do” adaptors with a 20moa cant to them are actually very helpful especially on an accurate rifle intended to shoot long range. A lot of people find the CZ dovetail somewhat redundant.
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03-26-2019, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurt505
CZ has an 11mm dovetail which limits the rings you can use. “Make do” adaptors with a 20moa cant to them are actually very helpful especially on an accurate rifle intended to shoot long range. A lot of people find the CZ dovetail somewhat redundant.
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The new CZ455 all have 3/8" dove tails now. Warne makes a very nice ring for the older CZ as well as the new ones the "hook" is reversible so you can do either 3/8" or the 11mm .. I bought one of those fancy Picattiny rail things to lift up the wifes scope above the rear sight on her CZ 452 Lux. It is for sale $150 bucks.... I have zero problem mounting scopes on the 8 CZ's we own...but scope selection is key, older fixed 6x (weavers mostly) is all we use.
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Trades I would interested in:
- Sightron rifle scopes, 4.5x14x42mm or 4x16x42mm
especially! with the HHR reticle. (no duplex pls.)
- older 6x fixed scopes with fine X or target dot.
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03-26-2019, 11:57 PM
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For clarity
From the faq section of the cz-usa website
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Q: “What rings do I need for my rimfire rifle?”
A: All 455s have 11mm dovetails. Beyond that, the dovetails might be 11mm or 3/8″ depending on whether the platform was developed for the US market or the European market. The foolproof way to tell is to take a measurement. 3/8″ dovetails will measure 0.5″/12.7mm at the top/widest part of the dovetail. 11mm dovetails will measure 0.433″/11mm at the top/widest part.
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OP - beware that CZ's have a tight bore. They suggest a 20 caliber rod. A bore guide is an excellent idea as well.
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Q: “I’ve heard you use tight bores in your .22s, is that right? What does that mean?”
A: Our 22 LRs use our cold hammer forged and lapped barrels, and are built a bit tighter than many other guns. In 22 LR we run a .211 bore, which is one of the reasons our .22s are known for incredible accuracy. This also means that a .17 or .20 rod and jag are required for cleaning, since a .22 rod will be too large.
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03-27-2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Sky
For clarity
From the faq section of the cz-usa website
OP - beware that CZ's have a tight bore. They suggest a 20 caliber rod. A bore guide is an excellent idea as well.
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Yes. I use a 17 cal rod on my cz 22s and it also works fine.
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