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just wondering who, if anyone, would be interested in paying a bit less than standard guided trip fees for a one-on-one on the water fly fishing lesson?
thinking I'm going to try some trips @ $250 for half a day on a stocked pond or smaller stream, flies and lunch provided
thoughts?
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03-02-2018, 08:35 PM
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okay $500 for weedy for half a day.
anyone else?
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03-02-2018, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Flieguy
okay $500 for weedy for half a day.
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I only take cash.
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03-03-2018, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Flieguy
just wondering who, if anyone, would be interested in paying a bit less than standard guided trip fees for a one-on-one on the water fly fishing lesson?
thinking I'm going to try some trips @ $250 for half a day on a stocked pond or smaller stream, flies and lunch provided
thoughts?
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So $250 per half day = $500 per full day. Where's the less than standard guided trip fees here? And the latter includes the price for 2 people.
You need to work on your marketing here!
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03-03-2018, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Flieguy
okay $500 for weedy for half a day.
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Except for the tying after 12 beers, the questions posed were all legitimate and should be able to be answered if you want to build a clientele. Not saying you do not know the answers however!
I also think that $250 on a stocked pond is quite high considering there would be no vehicles to shuttle and no boat involved, comparing to a bow river guide for example, where the prices for two people usually are around $500ish.
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03-03-2018, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief16
Except for the tying after 12 beers, the questions posed were all legitimate and should be able to be answered if you want to build a clientele. Not saying you do not know the answers however!
I also think that $250 on a stocked pond is quite high considering there would be no vehicles to shuttle and no boat involved, comparing to a bow river guide for example, where the prices for two people usually are around $500ish.
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In comparison to a fly fishing school, which is not one on one instruction, 250 for half a day is a competitive price. A full day I would charge 400, which is also competitive for standard guide rates.
insurance is around $900 so it would take several trips to break even on that alone.
I am an experienced fly fisher and have competed at a national level, sold tens of dozens of flies to happy customers, and have taken many beginners out and put them onto fish.
for those interested in entomology, I am an Environmental Science student and I can show you my grades from my entomology class if you like I can answer bug questions.
I do not have first aid, that sounds like a good idea though
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Yea.......sure...
You ducked the Sammich question
That’s a nope fer me
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03-03-2018, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Flieguy
In comparison to a fly fishing school, which is not one on one instruction, 250 for half a day is a competitive price. A full day I would charge 400, which is also competitive for standard guide rates.
insurance is around $900 so it would take several trips to break even on that alone.
I am an experienced fly fisher and have competed at a national level, sold tens of dozens of flies to happy customers, and have taken many beginners out and put them onto fish.
for those interested in entomology, I am an Environmental Science student and I can show you my grades from my entomology class if you like I can answer bug questions.
I do not have first aid, that sounds like a good idea though
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Awesome! Showing you know your stuff will do nothing but help you in the future I imagine, good luck with this idea and I hope it works out for you!
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Originally Posted by Flieguy
just wondering who, if anyone, would be interested in paying a bit less than standard guided trip fees for a one-on-one on the water fly fishing lesson?
thinking I'm going to try some trips @ $250 for half a day on a stocked pond or smaller stream, flies and lunch provided
thoughts?
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Wrong forum, this the general fishing forum, not the fly fishing forum.
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03-04-2018, 03:03 PM
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Wrong forum, this the general fishing forum, not the fly fishing forum.
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Who cares, fishing is fishing!
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Originally Posted by Flieguy
I am an experienced fly fisher and have competed at a national level, sold tens of dozens of flies to happy customers, and have taken many beginners out and put them onto fish.
for those interested in entomology, I am an Environmental Science student and I can show you my grades from my entomology class if you like I can answer bug questions.
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Just my thoughts -- the experienced fly-fisher stuff and competing on a national level sound good, seems like that would encourage someone to pay for guided trips. But then the stuff about being a student and boasting about your grades makes me think, "OMG, a recent high-school graduate, now a college student, wanting to be paid like a professional fishing guide!"
I don't know where things really fit there, but you need to work on the presentation. If you are in fact a recent high-school graduate with fishing skills, then I would suggest lowering your rates to draw in customers and get some positive ratings. Then you can increase your rates over time, in line with your growing guiding experience.
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fish tales fly shop school is 125 for a full day.
Bow river trout fitters 159 again for a full day.
So your price is far outside the competition for an introductory course, and lack of credentials. Yea you might be fishing stocked ponds while these are classroom and field, but these courses would teach you to catch real fish.
Good luck.
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I am an experienced fly fisher and have competed at a national level, sold tens of dozens of flies to happy customers, and have taken many beginners out and put them onto fish.
To compete at the national level, you basically just have to slap down your $. There is no qualifying or other pre-requisites. Just put your name in. Not really a resume builder.
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03-08-2018, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bhflyfisher
fish tales fly shop school is 125 for a full day.
Bow river trout fitters 159 again for a full day.
So your price is far outside the competition for an introductory course, and lack of credentials. Yea you might be fishing stocked ponds while these are classroom and field, but these courses would teach you to catch real fish.
Good luck.
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neither of those schools are one on one. Check their rates for a guided day trip.
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Originally Posted by Isopod
Just my thoughts -- the experienced fly-fisher stuff and competing on a national level sound good, seems like that would encourage someone to pay for guided trips. But then the stuff about being a student and boasting about your grades makes me think, "OMG, a recent high-school graduate, now a college student, wanting to be paid like a professional fishing guide!"
I don't know where things really fit there, but you need to work on the presentation. If you are in fact a recent high-school graduate with fishing skills, then I would suggest lowering your rates to draw in customers and get some positive ratings. Then you can increase your rates over time, in line with your growing guiding experience.
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I am a 4th year college student, 23 years old, and I can name plenty of guides off the top of my head who are younger and less experienced than me.
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Originally Posted by ShortsideK
I am an experienced fly fisher and have competed at a national level, sold tens of dozens of flies to happy customers, and have taken many beginners out and put them onto fish.
To compete at the national level, you basically just have to slap down your $. There is no qualifying or other pre-requisites. Just put your name in. Not really a resume builder.
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my team took 3rd place
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Wrong forum, this the general fishing forum, not the fly fishing forum.
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I posted here on purpose, I assumed that most of the people who view the fly fishing forum already know how to fly fish
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Do you not have to have a guiding license to guide in Alberta. taking money from people for taking them fishing is guiding ,is it not.????
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03-11-2018, 10:42 PM
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Do you not have to have a guiding license to guide in Alberta. taking money from people for taking them fishing is guiding ,is it not.????
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In this case i would consider it as teaching...not guiding.
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