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Old 09-21-2022, 06:40 AM
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Folks,

Three water extraction pumps sucking from Prairie Creek @ #752 Bridge @ Strachan Saturday.
Was yelled at for taking pictures.
Tried to find permit info on Alberta Regulator Site w/o success.
Any one know how to access.
However, just so you know. The water extraction is about 2 miles upstream of the primary spawning water on Prairie Creek which is closed to angling protect the fish.
Govt at its best

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Old 09-21-2022, 06:48 AM
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Phone the county/MD and see whatís up.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:31 PM
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I asked the AlBerta Energy Regulator who should supply the info.
Mind you, the AER is funded by the oil companies.

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Old 09-23-2022, 07:59 AM
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Is the license not supposed to be posted where they are drawing the water?
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Old 09-23-2022, 08:32 AM
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Op - don't stop till you get an answer from someone. Call RAP they can direct you to aer contacts. Red flag if they yelled at you beacuase they might not have a permit.
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Old 09-23-2022, 10:46 AM
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Permit needs to be posted at site. They're only allowed to withdraw water at a certain rate that is in the permit. If its three pumps, Im assuming its for a pipeline hydrotest or a frac which is then authorized under a TDL but also a code of practice for water withdraw for hydrostatic testing. Its also probably through AEP not AER.
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Old 09-23-2022, 10:47 AM
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Op - don't stop till you get an answer from someone. Call RAP they can direct you to aer contacts. Red flag if they yelled at you beacuase they might not have a permit.
I highly doubt someone is going to pull water out with 3 pumps on a fairly main secondary highway without a permit in place.
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I asked the AlBerta Energy Regulator who should supply the info.
Mind you, the AER is funded by the oil companies.

Don
Donít fear that as they go after companies with glee.

Itís a government agency that tax payers donít have to pay.

Getting on the wrong side of them is definitely something energy companies donít want to do.

That saidÖ they should not be pulling water off that will risk a spawning creek or fish population.

What is the main risk here?
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Old 10-18-2022, 09:05 AM
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Donít fear that as they go after companies with glee.

Itís a government agency that tax payers donít have to pay.

Getting on the wrong side of them is definitely something energy companies donít want to do.

That saidÖ they should not be pulling water off that will risk a spawning creek or fish population.

What is the main risk here?
The primary spawning area on Pr. Creek is located about 2 miles downstream. The stream is closed to fishing to protect the spawners.
Applies to you and me, but not oil companies.
I gotta wonder if the permit is still using the Clearwater River for flow calculations like was done in the winter extraction.

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