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Old 01-17-2023, 03:32 PM
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You are concerned about work hardening brass as well. A bushing die allows you to size the outside dimension of the neck minimally. Then bring it to final ID with a mandrel.
I read somewhere that they found that they had better groups with a non bushing die and a mandrel over a bushing die mandrel combo. The thought was that a bushing die doesnít do the entire neck, there is always a little bit of a gap at the bottom. But that was just what I read and the difference wasnít world changing
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Old 01-17-2023, 03:44 PM
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The combination of the two does make sense, but, if annealing, it may be a bit of a moot point overall. Then a person gets to the donut side of the debate between the two, moving it to the neck base, and the length of the neck, throat, vs seating depth etc. You size the outside, it's pushed inside, then you size the inside to push it back out, and maybe occasionally turn it off, which strikes me as a questionable operation. That's a rabbit hole and a half.
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The combination of the two does make sense, but, if annealing, it may be a bit of a moot point overall. Then a person gets to the donut side of the debate between the two, moving it to the neck base, and the length of the neck, throat, vs seating depth etc. You size the outside, it's pushed inside, then you size the inside to push it back out, and maybe occasionally turn it off, which strikes me as a questionable operation. That's a rabbit hole and a half.
It certainly is. Iíve gone back and forth numerous times. Much to the chagrin of my wallet.
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Old 01-17-2023, 05:54 PM
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It certainly is. Iíve gone back and forth numerous times. Much to the chagrin of my wallet.
Ain't that the truth.
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Old 01-17-2023, 09:45 PM
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Remove the sizing stem and use it as a body die only, if it works then you know it's a button issue as suggested or need a change of lube brands.
I was going to suggest the very thing, good catch.

Just a note if you clean out your die with something like brake clean or another aerosol cleaner be sure to swab the inside of the dies with a VERY thin coating of oil/lube on a Qtip. Also another thing that "could" be going on is the little vent hole in the die body is plugged and not allowing air to escape.
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Let's hear what Eric has to say about neck sizing only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLG2kSrD40g
If you're going this route you will need a body die or FL die at some point.
I didn't ignore this post! ..... I did start to look into it starting with the link you posted and a lot of what I've learned makes sense.

Yet another rabbit hole to go down.
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