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Old 01-28-2023, 07:33 PM
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Interesting video.

Without a doubt the choice to shoot at the bedded bear was a mistake.

I didn't watch far enough to know if there is an explanation for the rifle(shooter?) malfunction.
The rifle is a M700 Remington, but I also didn't catch caliber info.

Not a fan of the .454Casull either but that's not important.

So putting all the above aside, this video is exactly why the ability to carry a big bore handgun should be there for all hunters.
There is a bunch of stuff to learn from this video. A bunch.
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Old 01-28-2023, 07:35 PM
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I saw it mentioned elsewhere that the malfunction was believed to be a blown out primer that fell into the bolt recess and stopped it from going far enough forward to lock up.
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Old 01-28-2023, 07:37 PM
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I saw it mentioned elsewhere that the malfunction was believed to be a blown out primer that fell into the bolt recess and stopped it from going far enough forward to lock up.
I’d recommend watching the whole video, they talk about the malfunction near the end
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Old 01-28-2023, 07:40 PM
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What a bunch of morons
Why would you take those shots?
Such poor poor shot choices
This is the problem when your main concern is getting content for your YouTube channel or whatever bs your trying to do
That bear is the size of a sheet of plywood
Even in that blowing wind it wouldn’t be that hard
If…… the bear was standing up broad side
Not laying down in his hole
That bear is going to come out and come down!
Why why why why take those crappy shots?
X2. >400 yards, uphill, on a bear half denned up. Not ok.

My favorite was the “look-at-me” girl, Tanna, explaining her newfound skills at managing post-traumatic stress. Good grief.
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Old 01-28-2023, 07:42 PM
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Interesting video.

Without a doubt the choice to shoot at the bedded bear was a mistake.

I didn't watch far enough to know if there is an explanation for the rifle(shooter?) malfunction.
The rifle is a M700 Remington, but I also didn't catch caliber info.

Not a fan of the .454Casull either but that's not important.

So putting all the above aside, this video is exactly why the ability to carry a big bore handgun should be there for all hunters.
I agree, unfortunately in Canada the 454, or any other handgun falls into the category of designed only to kill the largest number of people as fast as possible or whatever their bs talking point is
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Old 01-28-2023, 07:54 PM
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X2. >400 yards, uphill, on a bear half denned up. Not ok.
What is half denned?
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:16 PM
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Watch the video and figure it out. These two YouTubers are imbeciles..
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:22 PM
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I’d recommend watching the whole video, they talk about the malfunction near the end
I think we are interested in a little more detail than “the bolt won’t close”
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:29 PM
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Watch the video and figure it out. These two YouTubers are imbeciles..
I did. That bear was NOT denned. Good grief.
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:30 PM
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I think we are interested in a little more detail than “the bolt won’t close”
Then watch the video. Lol.
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:32 PM
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I did. That bear was NOT denned. Good grief.
“Half”-denned. As in half a brain. Good grief, pal.
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:41 PM
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Then watch the video. Lol.
Edit: So the breakdown is basically what I said in the first place.
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:53 PM
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“Half”-denned. As in half a brain. Good grief, pal.
Really? Then why don’t you petition the Alaskan F&G to open the season later.
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Old 01-28-2023, 09:03 PM
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After 14,750 some posts one would think you would know how to read….

I worked in AK for a decade as an assistant guide, BTW, buddy.
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After 14,750 some posts one would think you would know how to read….

I worked in AK for a decade as an assistant guide, BTW, buddy.
I’m having trouble reading your writing. Sorry.
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Old 01-28-2023, 09:20 PM
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I’m having trouble reading your writing. Sorry.
Actually, that’s a pretty good one. ‘Night.
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Old 01-28-2023, 11:38 PM
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What is half denned?
I think he meant "half in his den". Which he was at least half in.
There was no ethical shot there, point blank, full stop.
Everyone is right about that.

Crappy luck afterwards, sure. But brought on by the events of their total stupidity and very poor decisions.

They should have shown some pictures, told the story, and burned the video.
But no....thems is clicks right there...
Idiots.

Sorry Pathfinder, you seem to be quite enamored with these 2, but they deserve every bit of flak they're getting.

PTSD......give me a break.
She sounds like the Turd when he was throwing 'genocide' around.
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Old 01-29-2023, 06:43 AM
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This story reminds me of a similar deal years back where a grizzly/or brown bear was shot several times, then ended up sliding down a snow slope, bleeding, still alive.

I actually found the video quite disturbing mainly because of the "hunters" actions and conversations with each other at the time.

And one of the "Einstein" hunters videoed the entire thing, and of course, ended up on social media around the world.
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Old 01-29-2023, 06:59 AM
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I am just shaking my head going WTF these people are idiots
X2. All I can say is WOW.
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Old 01-29-2023, 07:21 AM
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When you combine people with a little bit of knowledge low ethical standards a camera and a platform like social media to get their crap out to the world, well I think you get the drift of where this is going, more and more of them popping up every day and not just in the hunting world.
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Old 01-29-2023, 09:14 AM
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I think he meant "half in his den". Which he was at least half in.
There was no ethical shot there, point blank, full stop.
Everyone is right about that.

Crappy luck afterwards, sure. But brought on by the events of their total stupidity and very poor decisions.

They should have shown some pictures, told the story, and burned the video.
But no....thems is clicks right there...
Idiots.

Sorry Pathfinder, you seem to be quite enamored with these 2, but they deserve every bit of flak they're getting.

PTSD......give me a break.
She sounds like the Turd when he was throwing 'genocide' around.
He was not in his den. Watch the video. And no I’m not enamoured. I just despise hypocrites. True blue hunters as it were.

We have one guy here calling for their death. Another saying they should have hid the sin like any good hunter would. It’s like a trip down anti hunting lane.
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Old 01-29-2023, 09:27 AM
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Here are just SOME observations from this video. If people quit rocking themselves to sleep on the floor in the corner there is stuff you can actually learn.

Energy is a BS number with BS results

Middle of the middle is questionable on a bear

High shoulder CNS shots, on purpose, are stupid

The nonsense that Bears are soft. Hit them in the lungs and it’s over shortly ludicrous.

A push feed Remington and its ilk is a poor hunting weapon choice. Poor reloading practices are worse.

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Old 01-29-2023, 09:53 AM
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He was not in his den. Watch the video. And no I’m not enamoured. I just despise hypocrites. True blue hunters as it were.

We have one guy here calling for their death. Another saying they should have hid the sin like any good hunter would. It’s like a trip down anti hunting lane.
100% he wasn’t in his “den”
He dug a hole to try and catch a marmot
I have seen bears doing this on the peninsula as well
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Old 01-29-2023, 10:03 AM
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Would you honestly take those shots on that bear?
The only reason why you ever possibly would, is because your filming a show and the batteries were going to die
Those are totally irresponsible shots
Do you think they need a pat on the back for this? Not a chance
Kinda like the native lady that shot the record grizzly in the head multiple times with a .22 cal. Where were those ethics?
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Old 01-29-2023, 10:25 AM
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Kinda like the native lady that shot the record grizzly in the head multiple times with a .22 cal. Where were those ethics?
I really dont know where you are going with this?
But she shot that grizzly at the ideal moment with the weapon she had
They shot that bear at the absolute worst time. That bear was going to climb out of that hole and be broadside. They just had to wait. These bears are far far bigger than an alberta moose. They are a big target when they are broadside

That grizzly bella twin shot was probably half the size of that brown bear

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Old 01-29-2023, 10:44 AM
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I think it’s time I just sit back and watch the gong show with any grizzly/brown bear threads on AO
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Old 01-29-2023, 10:46 AM
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He was not in his den. Watch the video. And no I’m not enamoured. I just despise hypocrites. True blue hunters as it were.

We have one guy here calling for their death. Another saying they should have hid the sin like any good hunter would. It’s like a trip down anti hunting lane.
Good god man ! quit whining. The comment i made about the bear getting one last lunch was sarcasm . Lighten up.......you have 14 posts on this and i agree with none of them. Two p*ss poor "hunters". End of story
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Old 01-29-2023, 11:05 AM
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He was not in his den. Watch the video. And no I’m not enamoured. I just despise hypocrites. True blue hunters as it were.

We have one guy here calling for their death. Another saying they should have hid the sin like any good hunter would. It’s like a trip down anti hunting lane.
I wouldn't bet money that wasn't his den, as bears return many times in the first few weeks after waking up.
No one will know for sure.

The point is he was mostly in a hole. Enough that they had to yell at him in an attempt to get him to expose enough for a shot. And then when he didn't, they shot at him anyway.
Very, very poor decision. The extreme wind and range compound that poor decision.

Not saying they aren't hardcore, because they are. You would never catch me doing a hunt like that even in my prime.
But they made a very stupid decision taking that shot. That should have been Lesson #1. They don't acknowledge that at all.

The rest of it has some take aways I guess.
Biggest takeaway should be what NOT to post on social media.
Unfortunately, they are after viewers at any cost. Even a black mark on the sport.
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Getting a little too spicy in here between members... Stop the personal attacks or lose the thread and possibly even posting privileges.
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Old 01-29-2023, 12:21 PM
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