New Thorhild By Laws....

[Reeves1]

https://www.facebook.com/officialtan...88987194878519


Can you say Gov over reach ?

[Battle Rat]

It will likely result in a change of council and CEO if they push it.
Those involved better back peddle quick or resign if they don't want to get strung up.

[pikeman06]

Roger that. Run them out of the county. Be a good place to start setting a precedent.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Battle Rat

It will likely result in a change of council and CEO if they push it.
Those involved better back peddle quick or resign if they don't want to get strung up.

Hate to say it, but the next municipal election is a couple of years down the road. Time for some mobbing of council meetings demanding a revisit instead.

Grizz

[Cement Bench]

Brazeau county also used the same China bylaw drafting people or at least it was listed on their references

county personnel lack the sufficient intelligence to get 6 by laws from neighbouring counties and see what pages or paragraphs fit and draft their own

I could do it in less than 30 days

did one in 1990 that took 2 weekends

easy peasy other than public consultation meetings in the evening

you probably don’t know about the regional planning commissions outside Edmonton where they told my dad he could not subdivide 70 miles west of edmonton as a tributary water course touched his land

6 of 9 members had never been out that way or 4 even knew where it was on a map

wonderful public servants we have getting over 150 grand a year

we should be so lucky

[urban rednek]

Is that council home grown? Or recent returnees from Redmonton?
Either way, best to get rid of them quickly, before they get the idea they're doing a great job and everyone "Really loves them!"

[Sooner]

I am trying to picture in my mind that council sitting and debating these changes. Who was the first to come up with the idea and who actually said, ya that's good. But then a majority had to vote to implement them.


This is a council that comes from county residents and it still passed all those stupid regulations? I bet there was some heated debate from the ones opposed

Reminds me of stories an uncle told when he was a county councilor in Gimli Manitoba. Most councilors were down to earth farmers but the battles they had with the city transplants who got on council were epic.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Reeves1

https://www.facebook.com/officialtan...88987194878519


Can you say Gov over reach ?

It helps to go to the document and see what this guy is going on about. Never heard of him before so the question is… is he accurate or stretching any facts. Don’t know… however here is the link to Thorhild and their re-write so people don’t have to take his word on it.

Curious about the barbed wire on farm land comment. Now where to find it?

Page 107. It’s in there. Need a permit for barb wire on agricultural land. That does seem a stretch odd unless somewhere all agricultural land are automatically granted that permit.

Having height restrictions in town for fences is totally normal for any municipal area. Prevents some guy from refusing to allow a fence to some guy building a 10 foot fence to annoy a neighbor. Remember… rules are needed because not everyone thinks in a common sense manner.

I get it. To someone in a small town… big city rules can appear over reaching and annoying… being told what to do and all. However those rules should fall within the range of what the average person was going to do anyways.



https://www.thorhildcounty.com/Servi...-Bylaw-Rewrite





Direct link to the report-write

https://www.thorhildcounty.com/Porta...%20Council.pdf


Another perspective. https://www.agriville.com/threads/45...ivate-Property Also unhappy.

[elkhunter11]

This is what happens when the woke are put in charge.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Sooner

I am trying to picture in my mind that council sitting and debating these changes. Who was the first to come up with the idea and who actually said, ya that's good. But then a majority had to vote to implement them.


This is a council that comes from county residents and it still passed all those stupid regulations? I bet there was some heated debate from the ones opposed

Reminds me of stories an uncle told when he was a county councilor in Gimli Manitoba. Most councilors were down to earth farmers but the battles they had with the city transplants who got on council were epic.

Most of this leadership comes from Administration, they're professionals and councilors rely on them to formulate policy. Administration says so, we'll pass it. Woe be if you go against the prevailing opinion, we recently had a councilor sanctioned because he stepped on a few toes.

Grizz

[cody j]

Too many unelected people are making policy and decisions with little to no accountability, sometimes they seem to have more power than the elected representatives on how tax money is to be spent.

[lmtada]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

Most of this leadership comes from Administration, they're professionals and councilors rely on them to formulate policy. Administration says so, we'll pass it. Woe be if you go against the prevailing opinion, we recently had a councilor sanctioned because he stepped on a few toes.

Grizz

Shadow government. The Swamp. The people writing the policies. Biden’s script writers. Trudeau’s script writers………

[thumper]

Doff your cap, tug your forelock, cast down your eyes, - and mind your betters. It's the Canadian way.

[Battle Rat]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

Hate to say it, but the next municipal election is a couple of years down the road. Time for some mobbing of council meetings demanding a revisit instead.

Grizz

The next council meeting should be pretty entertaining.

[huntinstuff]

You dont need an election to get rid of politicians.

You need dedication, desire, and the commitment to see the task through.

They can be recalled....

[Dewey Cox]

Isn't just posting a link against the rules?

[DirtShooter]

To my horror

http://greenspacealliance.com/projec...-zoning-bylaw/

I got land in that county.

[urcayuse]

“I get it. To someone in a small town… big city rules can appear over reaching and annoying… being told what to do and all. However those rules should fall within the range of what the average person was going to do anyways.”

This is how I feel people so easily give up on freedom. They don’t really know what it is in the first place.

[lmtada]

Originally Posted by DirtShooter

To my horror

http://greenspacealliance.com/projec...-zoning-bylaw/

I got land in that county.

Wow. Brazeau County, farms this out to GSA since 2014. Looks like a coordinated plan developed with India contractors.

[esher]

Originally Posted by lmtada

Wow. Brazeau County, farms this out to GSA since 2014. Looks like a coordinated plan developed with India contractors.

Same old story, follow the money.

[surhuntsalot]

Being told you can only have a couple chickens (if your license and henhouse is approved). Limited number of outbuildings, and if not used for 6 months would need to be repermitted by the county… It’s NUTS….

Now how about if you were told you could only go 15 minutes from your home in Edmonton. You were encouraged to work and shop in the district you live in (1 of 5 districts Edmonton would be divided into). You would only be permitted to leave that district a set number of times, of which you would be fined for going above that… Sounds crazy, but apparently what’s on the books for Edmonton…No vote on the matter, no media coverage, and this should be front page news…

https://sohi.ca/policy-making-edmont...5-minute-city/

[st99]

Originally Posted by surhuntsalot

Being told you can only have a couple chickens (if your license and henhouse is approved). Limited number of outbuildings, and if not used for 6 months would need to be repermitted by the county… It’s NUTS….

Now how about if you were told you could only go 15 minutes from your home in Edmonton. You were encouraged to work and shop in the district you live in (1 of 5 districts Edmonton would be divided into). You would only be permitted to leave that district a set number of times, of which you would be fined for going above that… Sounds crazy, but apparently what’s on the books for Edmonton…No vote on the matter, no media coverage, and this should be front page news…

https://sohi.ca/policy-making-edmont...5-minute-city/

15 minutes neighbourhood, another great idea of the WEF. Good job people, keep electing far left activist.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

It helps to go to the document and see what this guy is going on about. Never heard of him before so the question is… is he accurate or stretching any facts. Don’t know… however here is the link to Thorhild and their re-write so people don’t have to take his word on it.

Curious about the barbed wire on farm land comment. Now where to find it?

Page 107. It’s in there. Need a permit for barb wire on agricultural land. That does seem a stretch odd unless somewhere all agricultural land are automatically granted that permit.

Having height restrictions in town for fences is totally normal for any municipal area. Prevents some guy from refusing to allow a fence to some guy building a 10 foot fence to annoy a neighbor. Remember… rules are needed because not everyone thinks in a common sense manner.

I get it. To someone in a small town… big city rules can appear over reaching and annoying… being told what to do and all. However those rules should fall within the range of what the average person was going to do anyways.



https://www.thorhildcounty.com/Servi...-Bylaw-Rewrite





Direct link to the report-write

https://www.thorhildcounty.com/Porta...%20Council.pdf


Another perspective. https://www.agriville.com/threads/45...ivate-Property Also unhappy.

I took this up with a former councilor friend of mine. His opinion was , it's important to differentiate between residential and agricultural designations and this would seem to be an attempt to regulate the ever increasing country residential demands municipalities are feeling, some from people who believe since they're out of the city, anything goes. Razor wire on a farmstead ?

Grizz

[1899b]

Originally Posted by Cement Bench

Brazeau county also used the same China bylaw drafting people or at least it was listed on their references

county personnel lack the sufficient intelligence to get 6 by laws from neighbouring counties and see what pages or paragraphs fit and draft their own

I could do it in less than 30 days

did one in 1990 that took 2 weekends

easy peasy other than public consultation meetings in the evening

you probably don’t know about the regional planning commissions outside Edmonton where they told my dad he could not subdivide 70 miles west of edmonton as a tributary water course touched his land

6 of 9 members had never been out that way or 4 even knew where it was on a map

wonderful public servants we have getting over 150 grand a year

we should be so lucky

1990???? Lmao the world has changed drastically since then. Have you just woke up from a deep 30 year sleep??

And I’m not saying it has charged for the good that’s for sure!!

[ClutchCanadian4]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

I took this up with a former councilor friend of mine. His opinion was , it's important to differentiate between residential and agricultural designations and this would seem to be an attempt to regulate the ever increasing acreage demands municipalities are feeling. Razor wire on a farmstead ?



Grizz

You should ask him to show you the farms that don't use barbed wire. The suits are out of touchhhhh

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[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by ClutchCanadian4

You should ask him to show you the farms that don't use barbed wire. The suits are out of touchhhhh

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Different rules for different folks, fact of Life.

Grizz

[ClutchCanadian4]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

Different rules for different folks, fact of Life.



Grizz

I like how the acreage demands on counties are getting to bed too much because people are leaving the cities to buy their own land in an attempt to be free to do as they please. But let's turn around and micro manage how you can and can't build the piece of land you bought and paid for, and then wonder why there is pushback. The government owning you instead of working for ya, ha, classic.

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[leeelmer]

Making it illegal to live in your holiday trailer while you are building a house.
Its crazy, friends of mine bought a secluded acreage up there, and the county is now trying to fine them for being out of compliance with by laws for living in there holiday trailer while they build a house.
Denning there permits, as you cant hook up propane tank to your holiday trailer.
Or temporary power to your holiday trailer.
There closest nabour is over 2 miles away. They are trying to build a there place all with cash, not having a great big mortgage hanging over there heads.
Why our governments of all levels have to get involved with telling us what we can and cannot do on our own land drives me nuts. These type of situations are not the same as regulating your nabour from building a 2000 hog operation across the fence from your place with no approval or rules. We are talking about needing approval for a barbed wire fence, or a building a shed out in the bloody country.

[DirtShooter]

This is why they're going after hunting guns.

[gman1978]

People were ringing the alarm on this kind of stuff 3 years ago. Indicating there would be a war against ag and rural lifestyles. They were laughed at. If what this guy is saying is true the council might as well pack their bags.