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Old 02-03-2023, 08:17 AM
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Default CBC reported that bill C21 is withdrawn

Not a bad way to start off the day!
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Old 02-03-2023, 08:21 AM
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Default Only parts are withdrawn.

Some of the newer amendments are withdrawn.

C-21 still exists.

We need to keep the pressure on and vote those idiots out ASAP.

They will re word it and try to ram it through again. Fast.
Nothing is more persistent a than a Liberal with a dumb idea.
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Old 02-03-2023, 08:29 AM
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Default Ottawa withdraws controversial amendments to firearms law

The Liberal government has withdrawn a series of controversial amendments to pending firearms legislation, C-21 ó changes that some firearms owners say would have unfairly targeted hunters and farmers.

Liberal MP Taleeb Noormohamed said Friday the government would scrap a clause that would have effectively banned any rifle or shotgun that could potentially accept a magazine with more than five rounds, whether or not it actually has such a magazine.

The government is also withdrawing a list of guns that would have been classified as "prohibited" firearms.

The government had intended to ban long guns that generate more than 10,000 joules of energy, or guns with a muzzle wider than 20 millimetres ó two rules that would have rendered many firearms illegal.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ott...ents-1.6735828

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Old 02-03-2023, 09:06 AM
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I suppose that I was naive to think that it was fully pulled!
Ha! They got me!
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Old 02-03-2023, 09:07 AM
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Default C-21 updated

Liberals have just announced that the amendments G4 and G46 have been withdrawn from the bill.
As much as this is GOOD news, I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of their game plan all along. Everyone is supposed to be elated that these utterly stupid amendments are gone, and we'll see how wonderful the Libs are for removing the controversial issues! Guaranteed the rest of their ban on "assault" scary type weapons will sail through the senate.
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Old 02-03-2023, 09:27 AM
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Exactly, they ban more firearms , for no reason other than virtue signaling, but it goes through, because they didn't ban even more firearms, at this time.
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Old 02-03-2023, 09:30 AM
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Old 02-03-2023, 09:30 AM
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Liberals have just announced that the amendments G4 and G46 have been withdrawn from the bill.
As much as this is GOOD news, I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of their game plan all along. Everyone is supposed to be elated that these utterly stupid amendments are gone, and we'll see how wonderful the Libs are for removing the controversial issues! Guaranteed the rest of their ban on "assault" scary type weapons will sail through the senate.
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Old 02-03-2023, 09:42 AM
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Just the amendment was withdrawn today
Handgun ban C21 still in place and proceeding through the leg as originally written.

Preaching to the choir here but this will be back. It is not gone.
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Old 02-03-2023, 09:55 AM
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Default Bill c21

Good to see we have just won a small battle in the Gun war. However positive is the Turd had over stepped his Ban Gun zeal and been caught in his game. I like Pierre's point on TV this morning "Trudeau now walking away with his tail between his legs"
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:12 AM
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Good to see we have just won a small battle in the Gun war. However positive is the Turd had over stepped his Ban Gun zeal and been caught in his game. I like Pierre's point on TV this morning "Trudeau now walking away with his tail between his legs"
And he can keep walking , off a cliff.
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:12 AM
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Just reading this morning they plan on banning antiques, canons, etc
So that probably include antique HANDGUNS I guess the general term handgun would include pre 1898 What do u think?
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:15 AM
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They went too far the last minute. With no research as to what they were doing as usual. They are not done trying to get those through another way. Election wedge issue that will do nothing to stop gun crime. Had they put those in the first place NDP would have supported. Luckily the Butt- Master is still safe from being banned.
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:22 AM
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Just reading this morning they plan on banning antiques, canons, etc
So that probably include antique HANDGUNS I guess the general term handgun would include pre 1898 What do u think?
How many mass murders have we endured using antique cannons?

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Old 02-03-2023, 10:22 AM
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Dont get all excited over it

It's like terrorists cutting off your hand and telling you they are cutting off the other.....then changing their mind......

Should you be grateful?

Personally, Id use my remaining hand to cut off their heads
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:22 AM
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Just reading this morning they plan on banning antiques, canons, etc
So that probably include antique HANDGUNS I guess the general term handgun would include pre 1898 What do u think?
Where did you read that?
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:36 AM
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Default C-21

ONLY the amendments have been withdrawn.
C-21 itself will likely still pass the senate under the left coalition.

I do this trick all the time. Show my wife a pair of 3000.00 Swarovski bino's and then get consent for the 500.00 pair of Vortex that I really wanted.
Look like a hero for saving money.
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:44 AM
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This is not a win. The Bill will go through now, and the October OIC banning sale and transfer of handguns, still in effect, May 2020 OIC banning 'assault style rifles' still in effect.

Just more bait and switch, Conservatives calling a win, and we didn't win a damn thing.

But lots of gun owners sure got fooled apparently. Thinking this is some kind of a win because their hunting rifles and shotguns are 'SAFE' now. What a joke.
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:45 AM
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The liberals will never give up trying to take away our freedoms and liberties, it's not in their making, a Narcissist dose not know the meaning of the word retreat or withdraw or I was wrong.

We have only 1 way of gaining real ground on defeating C21 and that is to remove him and his NDP backers from office, that would be a victory that would be worth talking about and celebrating.
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Old 02-03-2023, 10:48 AM
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Well a lot of guns are still banned so this isn't much to celebrate IMO. I guess if you're worried about pappy's duck gun then pop a bottle but I still have guns in the safe I can't use.
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Old 02-03-2023, 11:02 AM
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Itís like raising your taxes 15% then giving you a $50 relief cheque.

The boot is still on our throats as they say, theyíve just moved from the flat of the sole to the heel.
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Old 02-03-2023, 11:55 AM
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ONLY the amendments have been withdrawn.
C-21 itself will likely still pass the senate under the left coalition.

I do this trick all the time. Show my wife a pair of 3000.00 Swarovski bino's and then get consent for the 500.00 pair of Vortex that I really wanted.
Look like a hero for saving money.
Yes, that is exactly the premise of this thread. Why are we trying to say there was anything else inferred?
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Old 02-03-2023, 02:15 PM
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Just the amendment was withdrawn today
Handgun ban C21 still in place and proceeding through the leg as originally written.

Preaching to the choir here but this will be back. It is not gone.
They will just wait for something to happen in the US before trying again...
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Old 02-03-2023, 02:47 PM
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Not celebrating, and yes this is likely part of the plan to make the rest of the pill easier to swallow, but this announcement is better than the alternative.
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Old 02-03-2023, 03:14 PM
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Not celebrating, and yes this is likely part of the plan to make the rest of the pill easier to swallow, but this announcement is better than the alternative.
Not really. Personally, I want them to ram through legislation to ban *ALL* firearms. Every damn one of them.

Then we can all be criminals together, for doing precisely nothing, other then owning a firearm.

When we are all criminals for ownership, maybe people will wake up and realize this can apply to anything (just wait until all the internal combustion engines are banned, and outlawed, and you have to scrap them with no compensation, sorry about your 1970 Roadrunner).

Canadians either need to figure this out, or learn to like the flavor and texture of crickets, and living in a warehouse with 5000 other cucks, in their 15 minute city. To extrapolate to the extreme.
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Old 02-03-2023, 03:27 PM
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Well, now we're back to seeing what comes of the court cases, they are still just as important as they ever were, don't forget about them anyway. They will try something else, just a matter of time, it is on their side. We can add it to the record of what's been done since 2018, and wait and see when and where the stick appears next. If they can use more OIC's, they will.
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Old 02-03-2023, 04:11 PM
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Not really. Personally, I want them to ram through legislation to ban *ALL* firearms. Every damn one of them.

Then we can all be criminals together, for doing precisely nothing, other then owning a firearm.

When we are all criminals for ownership, maybe people will wake up and realize this can apply to anything (just wait until all the internal combustion engines are banned, and outlawed, and you have to scrap them with no compensation, sorry about your 1970 Roadrunner).

Canadians either need to figure this out, or learn to like the flavor and texture of crickets, and living in a warehouse with 5000 other cucks, in their 15 minute city. To extrapolate to the extreme.
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Old 02-03-2023, 06:42 PM
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I hope the entire bill blows up in The Turd's Blackface.
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Old 02-03-2023, 11:59 PM
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What a joke this is. My sig line is correct. Watching the media and speaking with a few folks, better half included. I canít believe people fall for these stupid media written headlines.

Dropping the amendments means nothing, C21 is still on the table. This joke is just a tiniest, minute step in the right direction. It still means nothing but yet people are falling for it head first without reading past the headlines.

I guess that is exactly what the liberals wanted by doing this little joke.

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Old 02-04-2023, 05:56 AM
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What a joke this is. My sig line is correct. Watching the media and speaking with a few folks, better half included. I canít believe people fall for these stupid media written headlines.

Dropping the amendments means nothing, C21 is still on the table. This joke is just a tiniest, minute step in the right direction. It still means nothing but yet people are falling for it head first without reading past the headlines.

I guess that is exactly what the liberals wanted by doing this little joke.

Many people are gullible, that is why owning the media is so important.
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