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Red Top mushroom time!!!!
Just finished my wet wet wet wet trail run....
An me an doggo come across this!
I know a few patches that should have some good ones.
Just cut that guy up and no real wormies!!!
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06-30-2020, 09:07 PM
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I was thinking this rain should bring the boletes out. Should be lots this year. As long as it stays cool and wet there won't be as many worms. First thing in the morning when it is cool is the best time to pick. As soon as it warms up and the sun comes out the worms will infest the red tops.
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06-30-2020, 09:53 PM
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I have been told you shouldn't pick them out of the ground, but cut them near base of stem. It allows the remainder to grow again in the future. Picked mushrooms in Germany, thats what they were doing.
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06-30-2020, 10:20 PM
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That is correct. That’s what I do, cut it right on a ground level.
Went out last Wednesday to the spot where we were picking them last year, found 4... that’s all! Will be going out next week again....
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07-01-2020, 05:56 AM
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Nice!! We are still picking some oyster mushrooms but haven't seen any boletes yet.
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07-01-2020, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TimeOff
I have been told you shouldn't pick them out of the ground, but cut them near base of stem. It allows the remainder to grow again in the future. Picked mushrooms in Germany, thats what they were doing.
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Most credible mycologists would disagree. A mushroom will not magically spring up from the severed end which is left in the ground. They are fruiting bodies of the mycelium and will form anew. By leaving the cut end of the mushroom attached to the mycelium you are opening up access for bacteria and viruses which is detrimental to say the least.
The responsible way to pick mushrooms is to fully remove them while taking care not to rip out much of the mycelium. Once the mushroom has been harvested you should cover the hole from which it grew with soil, leaves, etc.
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07-01-2020, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Surly
Most credible mycologists would disagree. A mushroom will not magically spring up from the severed end which is left in the ground. They are fruiting bodies of the mycelium and will form anew. By leaving the cut end of the mushroom attached to the mycelium you are opening up access for bacteria and viruses which is detrimental to say the least.
The responsible way to pick mushrooms is to fully remove them while taking care not to rip out much of the mycelium. Once the mushroom has been harvested you should cover the hole from which it grew with soil, leaves, etc.
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I didn't know that. I was always taught the same as TimeOff. Good to know, thanks!
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07-01-2020, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Surly
The responsible way to pick mushrooms is to fully remove them while taking care not to rip out much of the mycelium. Once the mushroom has been harvested you should cover the hole from which it grew with soil, leaves, etc.
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That's the best way of harvesting mushrooms.
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07-01-2020, 11:20 AM
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Wow
Didn’t know there was an ‘irresponsible’ way to pick mushies......
Now would someone kindly tell me if I should start feeling shame/guilt or not?
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07-01-2020, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
Wow
Didn’t know there was an ‘irresponsible’ way to pick mushies......
Now would someone kindly tell me if I should start feeling shame/guilt or not?
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Yes, you should feel both shame and guilt for your ignominious mushroom harvesting practices.
I'm being facetious of course.
Frankly, as a fungophile, I want to ensure that the mycelium remains healthy for many years to come so I can enjoy its' fruits. No different than C&R fishing or harvesting a couple of upland birds from a specific area in order to leave sufficient animals to procreate and for the population to thrive...
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07-01-2020, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Surly
Yes, you should feel both shame and guilt for your ignominious mushroom harvesting practices.
I'm being facetious of course.
Frankly, as a fungophile, I want to ensure that the mycelium remains healthy for many years to come so I can enjoy its' fruits. No different that C&R fishing or harvesting a couple of upland birds from a specific area in order to leave sufficient animals to procreate and for the population to thrive...
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Makes me wonder how mushrooms have prospered for 800 million years....
I think you are taking this a bit far.
Lets take it farther....
Care to provide the research on picking vs. cutting wild mushrooms?
Would love to see the credible "credible mycologist" poll.
Mycelium lives for years?
You sure?
How many local species does this apply to?
With all of the other violence procured on mushrooms by bugs, animals and weather, how is it that human picking activities are a concern worth considering?
Some of us less credible harvesters know that some mushrooms are best cut, as they do continue to grow if not pulled, while for the most part, it just does not matter.
A good reason for cutting is simply to have a cleaner mushroom for eating.
Us shroomers all want more mushrooms next year.
Probably the best advice for more baby shrooms.
Leave the rotten ones.
Step on them, mash them into your boot real good.
Or just throw the wormy ones as far as you can.
Spread those spores.
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07-01-2020, 12:37 PM
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Well
After a good self shaming session.... I went out to my one spot and molested a few more.
It looks like they need a few days.
Got a few slippery jacks as well.
This guy is a newcomer up in this patch
[IMG 
The over night temps have been around 3 or 4 way up here so I’m thinking their a little inhibited in growing yet.
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07-01-2020, 01:11 PM
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Self shaming is expected after performing Shibari on a mushroom. 
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07-01-2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by walking buffalo
Mycelium lives for years?
I harvest boletes and hericium mushrooms in the same area year after year. From the same logs in the case of the hericium. You can read Mycelium Running or the Growing Gourmet and Medicinal mushrooms by Paul Stamets for more information
Some of us less credible harvesters know that some mushrooms are best cut, as they do continue to grow if not pulled, while for the most part, it just does not matter.
I cut the hericium and artomyces as it is impossible to gently remove them from their substrate, yet I've never seen a mushroom magically re-appear from the base of a harvested fruiting body. Care to specify which species exhibit this behavior?
A good reason for cutting is simply to have a cleaner mushroom for eating.
If you read my preceding statements you will discover that I advocated for the removal of the mushroom from its' growth medium with the least amount of mycelial tissue attached. I do not see any reason why my method of harvesting would exacerbate the cleaning process when compared to yours.
Us shroomers all want more mushrooms next year.
Probably the best advice for more baby shrooms.
Leave the rotten ones.
Step on them, mash them into your boot real good.
Or just throw the wormy ones as far as you can.
Spread those spores.
This, I do agree with
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07-01-2020, 01:58 PM
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I had to look that word up..........
You sick........
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07-01-2020, 04:50 PM
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they are starting to show up north of edmonton.
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07-23-2020, 04:41 AM
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Wow!
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they are starting to show up north of edmonton.
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Awesome!
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07-23-2020, 07:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bessiedog
Well
After a good self shaming session.... I went out to my one spot and molested a few more.
It looks like they need a few days.
Got a few slippery jacks as well.
This guy is a newcomer up in this patch
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The over night temps have been around 3 or 4 way up here so I’m thinking their a little inhibited in growing yet. |
Those are ready to pick! I the smaller the better In my kitchen.
I’ve been drying red tops this year instead of freezing them.
I was in the polish butcher shop and after seeing the price of dried boletes I’m pretty happy to have my very own stash.
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07-23-2020, 08:52 AM
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As a beginner are there any poison mushroom s that can be mistaken for red tops? Is there any one in the Drayton area that would be willing to share some knowledge. My grandma used to pick mushrooms and I have always wanted to.
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07-23-2020, 08:58 AM
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Red tops are pretty foolproof. You can come across similar looking shroom with much paler head, those are good as well, even though different species
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07-23-2020, 09:54 AM
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As a beginner are there any poison mushroom s that can be mistaken for red tops? Is there any one in the Drayton area that would be willing to share some knowledge. My grandma used to pick mushrooms and I have always wanted to.
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The one red or orange topped mushroom that's poisonous is Amanita Muscaria. They have white spots(veil) on the cap too.
Northern Bushcraft online has a list and pics of Alberta's edible mushrooms.
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07-23-2020, 09:54 AM
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Red tops are pretty foolproof. You can come across similar looking shroom with much paler head, those are good as well, even though different species
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Thanks
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07-23-2020, 01:18 PM
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Big difference between Red Tops and the one Red Bullet posted is real red tops have spongy bottom of the head. Those poisonous ones have little radial plates/slivers (not sure how to explain better). Really hard to miss up those two
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07-23-2020, 02:53 PM
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The only ones I've been picking are the ones constantly popping up on my lawn... :argh:
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07-23-2020, 03:32 PM
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Big difference between Red Tops and the one Red Bullet posted is real red tops have spongy bottom of the head. Those poisonous ones have little radial plates/slivers (not sure how to explain better). Really hard to miss up those two
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All good info, thanks I'll be out this weekend.
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07-23-2020, 10:35 PM
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Quote:
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Big difference between Red Tops and the one Red Bullet posted is real red tops have spongy bottom of the head. Those poisonous ones have little radial plates/slivers (not sure how to explain better). Really hard to miss up those two
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It may be hard to miss up but to an amateur first timer there could be error. I was going on the orange/red coloring. Some might think red top and see an amanita.
The underside of the cap is an easy id for boletes.
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07-23-2020, 10:53 PM
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Well son of a.......I had a few growing in the back where the dogs are and just saw red and thought well that can't be good and threw them out
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07-24-2020, 07:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Bullets
It may be hard to miss up but to an amateur first timer there could be error. I was going on the orange/red coloring. Some might think red top and see an amanita.
The underside of the cap is an easy id for boletes.
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Posting amanitas is a good idea, it might save some grief.
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07-24-2020, 10:31 AM
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Here's a little clip about amanitias. Might explain why Santa Claus is always ho-ho-ho-ing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkCS9ePWuLU
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