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Old 03-07-2012, 10:27 PM
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I was thinking about going out for a spring bear but i already have a bear rug and don't want another and im pretty sure you have to use the cape but not sure about the meat? Its been a while since i have hunted bear and was looking for a refresher on the regs. If i don't have to use the meat and just have to take the cape is there somewhere where i can donate the cape so that it can be used?
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:45 PM
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You should be able to give it to a taxidermist. They will then use it to repair botched caping jobs. Check with your taxidermist to see if he could use one. Or get a nice shoulder mount done
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:26 AM
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I'm always in the market for a bear hide. If you get one, keep me in mind!!!
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:09 AM
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Are you going to kill one just for fun of killing it ? Consider going with a camera if you have no use for the animal. You can shoot the same one several times. It`s like catch and release. If the bear is a problem animal that is one thing, but if the bear is out in the wilderness where they belong, I would not kill if I had no use for the animal.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:36 AM
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I was thinking about going out for a spring bear but i already have a bear rug and don't want another and im pretty sure you have to use the cape but not sure about the meat? Its been a while since i have hunted bear and was looking for a refresher on the regs. If i don't have to use the meat and just have to take the cape is there somewhere where i can donate the cape so that it can be used?
If you have no interest in the meat and no intrest in the hide, why would you go and hunt one to just kill it?? If you just want to kill things think about shooting prairie dogs.
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:56 AM
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If you are hunting on a license, you will have to find a use for the meat OR the hide. The regs do not allow you to just shoot one and leave everything. But you do have the option of hunting for either the hide OR the meat, or both if you like.

Problem Bears are another matter. If you can locate a land owner with bear problems you may get permission to hunt that, or any number of bears, on his land, with his permission. In that case you will not need a license and you will not be required to salvage the meat OR the hide. You may if you want, but it's not required.

Just for clarity sake, bear problems are typically, but not always, a late summer/fall thing. Your chances of finding someone with Bear problems in the spring, are not good.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:03 AM
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If you are hunting on a license, you will have to find a use for the meat OR the hide. The regs do not allow you to just shoot one and leave everything. But you do have the option of hunting for either the hide OR the meat, or both if you like.

Problem Bears are another matter. If you can locate a land owner with bear problems you may get permission to hunt that, or any number of bears, on his land, with his permission. In that case you will not need a license and you will not be required to salvage the meat OR the hide. You may if you want, but it's not required.

Just for clarity sake, bear problems are typically, but not always, a late summer/fall thing. Your chances of finding someone with Bear problems in the spring, are not good.
Can you provide the source of this legal advice? Last I checked it was ilegal to waste the skin of a bear taken under the authority of a license. I might be missing an exception to that rule that I am not aware of.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:00 PM
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What about shooting one for a skull on your mantel and a tanned hide on the wall. Or donate the hide to halford or give it to someone. Who cares if he holds a tag and shoots one legally. I don't plan on eating the meat and I will bleach the skull and tan the hide. Am I a bad sportsman? I don't want to shoot one with a camera, I want a big bruin laying beside my bow. Sounds like theres a linching mob on here ready for bear hunters who don't make delicious spring bear roasts. Please keep your high and almighty comments to yourself, this guy is doing nothing wrong!!!!!!!!

Oh forgot to add the only thing that can't go to waste on a bear is the hide.

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:35 PM
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What about shooting one for a skull on your mantel and a tanned hide on the wall. Or donate the hide to halford or give it to someone. Who cares if he holds a tag and shoots one legally. I don't plan on eating the meat and I will bleach the skull and tan the hide. Am I a bad sportsman? I don't want to shoot one with a camera, I want a big bruin laying beside my bow. Sounds like theres a linching mob on here ready for bear hunters who don't make delicious spring bear roasts. Please keep your high and almighty comments to yourself, this guy is doing nothing wrong!!!!!!!!

Oh forgot to add the only thing that can't go to waste on a bear is the hide.
I have not said any high and mighty comments. Myself I consider bear as a trophy hunt and cant wait for the day I put a monster boar on the ground, but guess what Ill be bleaching the skull and putting the hide on the wall. I will also be cutting a roast out as I have never had bear before so gotta try it. What i gathered from the OP is he just wants to shoot er kill one, take a pic or two and walk away. So if hes not keeping meat, or fur, or skull (assuming) why kill one??
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:42 PM
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Because he can legally. Having a bear season is a management tool. Why do we shoot coyotes? I don't eat those and leave them in the field. They probably kill the same amount of ungulates as a bear. Guess what, all your favorite tv celebrities kill bears to get them on video for filler. I guarantee after they don't sit there and carve roasts out of their bears. I'm shooting a bear for a trophy. Maybe I will shoot two for a trophy this year because I can.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:43 PM
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What about shooting one for a skull on your mantel and a tanned hide on the wall. Or donate the hide to halford or give it to someone. Who cares if he holds a tag and shoots one legally. I don't plan on eating the meat and I will bleach the skull and tan the hide. Am I a bad sportsman? I don't want to shoot one with a camera, I want a big bruin laying beside my bow. Sounds like theres a linching mob on here ready for bear hunters who don't make delicious spring bear roasts. Please keep your high and almighty comments to yourself, this guy is doing nothing wrong!!!!!!!!

Oh forgot to add the only thing that can't go to waste on a bear is the hide.
x2 .. It's not like there is a shortage of them .I'm sure the OP would do something with the hide , he just was asking a question regarding the whole carcass .. Nothing wrong with wanting to get out and hunt again . I've taken some nice bears as well and don't really " need " another rug but I plan on going again this spring .Good luck to you , bchap22..
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:56 PM
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Because he can legally. Having a bear season is a management tool. Why do we shoot coyotes? I don't eat those and leave them in the field. They probably kill the same amount of ungulates as a bear. Guess what, all your favorite tv celebrities kill bears to get them on video for filler. I guarantee after they don't sit there and carve roasts out of their bears. I'm shooting a bear for a trophy. Maybe I will shoot two for a trophy this year because I can.
And there is nothing wrong with that. I have my list of trophy bears I WANT and WILL kill when I find them. But I will be using the furs and skulls for trophy, not just to shoot one. My list is as follows, a large bear 21+, cinnamin color phase, blonde, two-tone, and a patched bear. But if I see a bear thats not on that list Im not going to shoot it just so I can say I shot one. And yotes, well everyone iv shot is in my freezer waiting to be hauled off the the tannery to come back home and on the wall aswell as 2 skulls. Once I have the pelts I want. I will stop shooting them untill the furs are good again them off to be sold they will go. A co-worker shot his 215th yote this past weekend and guess what hes sold them all and walked away with a cool $7000 so you tell me if shooting yotes and leaving them is a waste??? would be nice to at least get your money back spent on the hunts, No??
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Old 03-08-2012, 01:01 PM
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And there is nothing wrong with that. I have my list of trophy bears I WANT and WILL kill when I find them. But I will be using the furs and skulls for trophy, not just to shoot one. My list is as follows, a large bear 21+, cinnamin color phase, blonde, two-tone, and a patched bear. But if I see a bear thats not on that list Im not going to shoot it just so I can say I shot one. And yotes, well everyone iv shot is in my freezer waiting to be hauled off the the tannery to come back home and on the wall aswell as 2 skulls. Once I have the pelts I want. I will stop shooting them untill the furs are good again them off to be sold they will go. A co-worker shot his 215th yote this past weekend and guess what hes sold them all and walked away with a cool $7000 so you tell me if shooting yotes and leaving them is a waste??? would be nice to at least get your money back spent on the hunts, No??
I have no intrest in skinning yotes. Most of them I shoot are sawed in half by a ballistic tip so theres really no point.

Anyways this threads getting derailed by certain views of people who condemn the op for asking a question.

To the original post if you want to kill a bear go for it. Taxidermy bills can add up quick and not everyone can afford to rug or tan a bear. As long as you find a home for the hide go for it! Enjoy your time in the outdoors and make sure to take pictures!

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Old 03-08-2012, 08:22 PM
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First off thanks to the guys that actually answered my question! To the rest well just consider yourself ignored because you basically wasted space on the thread and i don't need you to question my ethics. I have the utmost respect for every animal! I am itching to get back out hunting this spring and buddy of mine wants to go bear hunting so i thought i would tag along with him.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:29 PM
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First off thanks to the guys that actually answered my question! To the rest well just consider yourself ignored because you basically wasted space on the thread and i don't need you to question my ethics. I have the utmost respect for every animal! I am itching to get back out hunting this spring and buddy of mine wants to go bear hunting so i thought i would tag along with him.
Well that is different. I appologise for "wasting" space. And I also appologise for the ethics aspect of things, I was unaware of the fact you wanted to tag along with a friend, He may even be willing to take the hide off your hands. Again Im sorry.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:18 PM
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Well that is different. I appologise for "wasting" space. And I also appologise for the ethics aspect of things, I was unaware of the fact you wanted to tag along with a friend, He may even be willing to take the hide off your hands. Again Im sorry.
No problem i appreciate the apology im not the type of hunter that goes out to fill every tag in my pocket just to make a kill and there have been quite a few years in the past where i have had more than once tag hung on the christmas tree. The last time i shot a bear was 11 years ago so it kind of peaked my interest again when a buddy had mentioned it to me.
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I was thinking about going out for a spring bear but i already have a bear rug and don't want another and im pretty sure you have to use the cape but not sure about the meat? Its been a while since i have hunted bear and was looking for a refresher on the regs. If i don't have to use the meat and just have to take the cape is there somewhere where i can donate the cape so that it can be used?
You can leave the meat but you have to take the hide. Tanning is pretty cheap so if your taxi wont take it you can spend a few hundred tanning it and give it away.

I love hunting bears but have a giant black and a couple big browns rugged so i doubt i will ever mount another.I have a few people who would like hides so im going to try to kill two big archery bears this spring.Ive shot 15-20 bears and 3/4 of them have been given away.The areas i hunt all have huge bear populations and imo they need to be managed the same as any other predator.

Good luck and let us know how you make out.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:45 PM
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I am a trapper, and if you are looking to get rid of hides I would definately take them!
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:50 PM
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I was thinking about going out for a spring bear but i already have a bear rug and don't want another and im pretty sure you have to use the cape but not sure about the meat? Its been a while since i have hunted bear and was looking for a refresher on the regs. If i don't have to use the meat and just have to take the cape is there somewhere where i can donate the cape so that it can be used?
Seems pretty clear to me what you were asking... I would have gone bear hunting years ago if I knew "not letting the hide go to waste" could be interpreted as donating it to someone else. I am going for the first time this Spring and plan on putting the hide on my classroom wall.
Taking photos doesn't even come close to pulling a trigger. I'll take plenty of pictures once the animal is laying on the ground though, haha.
Good luck and have fun just enjoying the outdoors!
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:39 PM
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Sorry about answering late. Am gone alot. I also hunt bears. My family all eat bear. We smoke the hind, tenderloins are done up to be stuffed and barbecued, meat that is left is split between hamburger, pepperoni and jerky. Also have a rug. Same thing is that do not want the hide only the skull for the mantel. We did the claws up for necklaces for my youngest daughter. All that we did not use was the hide that is in the freezer.
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Can always do a head mount. Looks good, doesn't take much space and not that expensive.

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