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05-14-2012, 07:46 PM
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Bus beheader Vince Li getting out
Just when you think our justice system could not get anymore ridiculous, crown prosecuters have announced that they will not oppose this psycho getting supervised trips into town from the loony bin. How can our system hit a homerun on the Tori Stafford case and get two first degree murder convictions and yet fail so miserably in the case of Tim Maclean? Eventually this nutjob will be a free man. Macleans mother is so distraught that she herself now needs psychiatric help. What a travesty of justice.
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05-14-2012, 07:55 PM
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Can he be extradited back to china?
That is absolutely ridiculous, that this animal should get any sort of freedom.
Canada needs the death penalty, life for a life, irregardless of excuse.
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05-14-2012, 07:56 PM
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Absolutely disgusting!!!!!...those Azzhats should have to let him live in their neighborhoods and guarantee him a job there.....un FRIGGIN believable!!!!!!!
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05-14-2012, 08:01 PM
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Wow...
I thought I read earlier today that he is still hearing voices???
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05-14-2012, 08:04 PM
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It's probably a good idea to post the story and source for a thread like this. The Crown prosecutors are not opposing it...the federal review board has not come to a decision yet.
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WINNIPEG — Crown prosecutors do not oppose letting a man who beheaded a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus off of the grounds of a Manitoba mental hospital.
A psychiatrist treating Vince Li has asked a federal review board to let Li take escorted trips into the city of Selkirk, Man.
Dr. Steve Kremer says Li has responded well to his treatment and understands he has schizophrenia.
The Crown did not object to the request at Monday’s hearing.
The board has reserved its decision.
Li has been in a mental hospital since he was found not criminally responsible for stabbing and decapitating Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus in July, 2008.
Li was initially kept in a locked ward, but began being allowed short walks on the hospital grounds in 2010.
The victim’s mother, Carol DeDelley, has opposed granting more freedom to Li, saying he should be kept behind locked doors for the rest of his life.
Li’s trial was told he was an untreated schizophrenic who heard voices telling him to kill McLean, a young carnival worker who Li had never met before. Passengers said Li started stabbing McLean in an unprovoked attack.
After the driver stopped the bus and the passengers exited, Li decapitated McLean and ate pieces of his flesh.
The Crown had previously opposed some of the recommendations to give Li more freedom. Last year, Crown attorney Susan Helenchilde said Li should only be allowed to walk the hospital grounds during daylight hours and only when at least two staff members are with him.
The review board ruled that Li only needed to be escorted by one staff member, as long as that worker has a cellphone or two-way radio.
Li, 44, emigrated from China in 2001 and worked menial jobs in Winnipeg. He moved to Edmonton in 2006 and was on his way back to Winnipeg when he killed McLean.
Read more: http://www.timescolonist.com/health/...#ixzz1utqmP2gB
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05-14-2012, 08:05 PM
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They should put him and Omar Kader in the same cell and not bother feeding them for a couple of weeks.
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05-14-2012, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by doetracks
Wow...
I thought I read earlier today that he is still hearing voices???
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probably is....his tax payer funded defense attorney saying " i'll get you out"....he ate the kids eyes for Gawd's sake!!!...they fixed that with medication, that he " promises" to take, LIKE HE DID THE LAST TIME?????
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05-14-2012, 08:13 PM
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A $10 rope would fix the issue....and the hippies can't complain cause u can reuse the ripe for all his little buddies.....bring back the death penalty....or give them to the family...24 hrs of lawlessness Alowed...that would sure make these creeps think a bit before they do what they do
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05-14-2012, 08:14 PM
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Stoop to his level.....
Cut his head off.........end.
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05-14-2012, 08:17 PM
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Where are the hoards of peasants chanting, "off with his head, off with his head"
He'll be off the mess in a week I reckon. Another fine example of be rehabilitated in Canada. What a joke.
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05-14-2012, 08:19 PM
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Firearm sales in Selkirk just skyrocketed. Can you imagine sitting in Timmies enjoying your double double and in strolls Vince Li with his douchebag escort.
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05-14-2012, 08:22 PM
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Wow ........... mental health issue's don't just dissapear ........... this guy need's long term care or Dr Kevorkian !!!
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05-14-2012, 08:57 PM
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Did anybody see this guys physiatrist on the news stating that he had a illness that was treatable. I think the shrink is nuts too! Surprise!
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05-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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I'm against the death penalty due to it being too merciful......
With that being said, this creature should NEVER see the light of day again. All officials involved should be charged with first degree murder when someone else's child falls prey to him again. This is an utter travesty.
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05-14-2012, 10:15 PM
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How can anyone possibly oppose executing Vince Lee? It's beyond absurd.....
Of course the shrink figures Lee's A-OK; it's because he's convinced of his own awesomeness and the effectiveness of his still-experimental field of employment.
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05-14-2012, 10:34 PM
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Ok. so he was nuts when he committed those horrible acts.
Whether you're nuts or not now, you spend the rest of your life in confinement for the safety of everyone else.
Very simple.
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05-14-2012, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Albertadiver
Ok. so he was nuts when he committed those horrible acts.
Whether you're nuts or not now, you spend the rest of your life in confinement for the safety of everyone else.
Very simple.
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Thats true, if it was my kid he did that to he would need an army to keep my away.....hopefully he gets whhat he deserves even then it cant compare to what he did...sick...just sick
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05-14-2012, 10:40 PM
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When you do what he did...there really isn't any room left for excuses or understanding.
Some things are just too horrific for anyone to ever be allowed into society again.
Why should anypone feel safe or comfortable with that creature roaminhg about supervised or not.
Lock him and keep him there.
If he is "cured" let the rest of his pennance be assisting others and working as a patient trustee or making plates in the pen.
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05-14-2012, 10:42 PM
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Now this is definitely the right time for the good ole saying Shoot Shovel and Shut up. That's the only way proper justice would be given
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05-14-2012, 10:54 PM
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ill take the sick @#ck hunting! someone bring a shovel
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05-14-2012, 11:06 PM
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I cannot believe what Canada let's people away with. The best thing that could of happened and should have happened is the policed blew that sick @$&#* head off while he was in the bus. What a waste of skin.
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05-14-2012, 11:12 PM
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He should get out alright....carried in a bodybag. The fact remains what this guy did was so crazy on so many levels, how can you let a guy like this walk???
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The belief that the kind of crazy that Li exhibited is curable is utter fallacy. It will always be there, and all it will take will be something so simple as missing some med's one day and he'll be feasting on the LRT at rush hour.
It's like pointing a hair-trigger pistol at everyone a person meets; it's not if it's gonna go off, but when.
But then maybe it's all better now because somebody sued the knife company and all the bad knives got destroyed, and now everyone's safe
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05-14-2012, 11:52 PM
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Caber, the problem is that the history of the science of psychology makes al gore's venom seem downright Oscar-worthy. I mean what next? A president getting a Nobel Peace Prize within weeks of being on the job? Get with the times man.
The shrinks have their claws into a grand new experiment, as they did with bernardo.
Only difference being that li slaughtered a carney kid on a bus in the west and bernardo slaughtered innocent girls in ontario. That's the only reason he's still in there for the rest of his days.......we hope..
The puppet masters need to be held legally accountable for their experiments when dear old Pinocchio runs off the rails at the expense of innocent lives. Simple as that.
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05-15-2012, 12:12 AM
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I guess when those pesky rules about not using prisoners for scientific medical experiments came about, the way around them was to not draw blood or perform Bonsai-inspired trimming of their frontal lobes and simply use them as cerebral-function ginuea pigs instead. "Lets allow this one out and see what happens, it'll make for a bodacious thesis if he doesn't relapse!"
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05-15-2012, 12:25 AM
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Even if this mans mental instability is controllable with meds, what kind of life could the Psyciatrists think he will have outside of a cell. No one will hire him, no one will want him in the same building or same town. Some poor schmuck will end up in prison for beating the crap out of this creep. All the meds in the world cannot keep this guys train on the tracks. keep him locked up for everyones sake.
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05-15-2012, 02:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
Canada needs the death penalty, life for a life, irregardless of excuse.
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Agreed.
We need someone like Arthur Ellis at the controls of the long drop gallows again.
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05-15-2012, 02:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
Can he be extradited back to china?
That is absolutely ridiculous, that this animal should get any sort of freedom.
Canada needs the death penalty, life for a life, irregardless of excuse.
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NO Canada doesn't need the death penalty on the grounds life for a life as each case is diffrent and as in the past & present our Justis system gets abused a lot. I agree that some cases warnt the death penalty. but as long as prosecutors and lawyers and cops are not accountable for the way they present evidence like forgetting to mention little thing that wuold clear the defendant only to be found out years later.
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05-15-2012, 05:22 AM
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rough stuff
Must be tough to be insane and live with the knowledge that you did something like that. I think he should never have unsupervised freedom but to suggest the death penalty in this case is pretty sad.
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05-15-2012, 06:46 AM
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What should have happened when this all went down was cop draw handgun open door on bus approach subject if he resists shoot him between the eyes. Would have been a fitting end and saved all of us alot of tax dollars.
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