Holding big fish the correct way?

[Eddy62]

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was watching a tv program on muskie fishing and 1 musky they caught had a big hump on its back the anglers on the program were talking about it and did not have an answer so i reaserched a little and found this article on my friends facebook link ( WFN )

So for the big game anglers ..What do you think ? can there vertebraes (back ) be hurt as your lifting out off water....should a guy be grabbing by tail and holding belly at all times . the 1 angler says in this article that he grabbed on to a large fish and could hear its back snap and figured after it swam away it would not live long..just curious

txs

[WayneChristie]

have you ever tried to break the backbone on a pike or a big burbot? Its not an easy thing to do, I really doubt you could break a fishes back by picking it up in any position

[BeeGuy]

Great post.

I see a lot of fish pictures, you know the fish air guitar pictures of big fish where it looks like the fish is folding over the anglers hand and what not from being too large to support it's weight.

This is especially true of those mammoth fat pike.

I expect this can cause both internal organ damage, and damage to the spine.

The best large fish handling I've seen is one of the videos posted here by a member who regularly fishes the SSR for Sturgeon.

The fishes weight is supported by the tail with the forces exerted along the length of the spine as opposed to perpendicular to it, and the remainder of the weight is supported towards the front of the fish.


Those pics where the fish is folding over the anglers arm certainly cause significant physiological stress.

Remember when you're squeezing that fish for a good grip, that the fishes heart is right behind the head. I see a lot of trout pics where the fishes chest is getting pretty squished.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

have you ever tried to break the backbone on a pike or a big burbot? Its not an easy thing to do, I really doubt you could break a fishes back by picking it up in any position

It doesn't have to break to be injured.

[WayneChristie]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

It doesn't have to break to be injured.

true, I was thinking major carnage I guess, to match my leg right now

[Thundercatcher]

that 1st photo is sooooo photoshoped by the way

[Ronbill]

well knowing a thing or two about aquatic biology, I would say no large fish should really be supported OUT OF WATER! Plain and simple. It's not just the bones, but more importantly the internal organs like the swim bladder that need the support of water.
Smaller fish are a different story.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by Thundercatcher

that 1st photo is sooooo photoshoped by the way

Ya, could be, looks like they might have 'sharpened' it too much.

You can see the guy squeezing the first fish almost exactly where the heart is.

I can't imagine this is good for it.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

true, I was thinking major carnage I guess, to match my leg right now

Ya I can see that. The back bones can be pretty....resilient...when you're trying to cut their heads off and stuff.

What happened to your leg? Yoga?

[WayneChristie]

torn muscle, I think because I bought my pheasant license.

Originally Posted by Thundercatcher

that 1st photo is sooooo photoshoped by the way

Why would you say that? Seems like there always 1 person who calls photoshop on every pic, your the lucky one this time.

[Eddy62]

Originally Posted by hunter49

Why would you say that? Seems like there always 1 person who calls photoshop on every pic, your the lucky one this time.

because they dont no how to answer the question that is being asked.....the photos have nothing to do with the question!

[BobLoblaw]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

torn muscle, I think because I bought my pheasant license.

How did you do that, Wayne?
Lifting a big sturgeon improperly, perhaps???

[Blake]

Originally Posted by Thundercatcher

that 1st photo is sooooo photoshoped by the way

Yup. That Gord Pyzer is notorious for that sort of thing, what with all the photo's he's had published in low end magazines like outdoor canada and in-fisherman. He's like the Mitch Rompola of the fishing world.

x2 on what BeeGuy said.

[Patrick Walsh]

I can assure you, Outdoor Canada does not Photoshop Gord Pyzer's fish photos to enhance size, etc. (or any other photos, for that matter). And having seen the original file of the photo you are referring to (Gord with the lake trout), I guarantee you this is the original image. It's all about camera angle and getting in close to accentuate the fish (and to make a cool shot).

I should also note that Gord, as a retired fisheries management biologist, is one of the foremost and respected proponents of proper fish handling, not to mention catch-and-release fishing. And his writings on the subject are numerous (for example, the blog cited at the beginning of this thread).

As for Outdoor Canada being "low end," I think the publication's numerous National Magazine Awards and the fact it's twice been named Magazine of the Year (by the Canadian Society of Magazine Editors) speaks for itself. And much of the credit goes to our Alberta-based field editors and contributors: Bruce Masterman, Brad Fenson, T.J. Schwanky, Rich Mellon, Ken Bailey & Jim McLennan.

[alodar]

Pat im not 100% sure but i believe he was being sarcastic its hard to tell but to me the post just reeks of it

[0liver]

i think he got told.. xD

[BCSteel]

Looks like someone missed the sarcasm lol

[slivers86]

Definitely sarcasm lol Personally, in the time I've known blake, never seen him use sarcasm EVERR..

[pickrel pat]

Originally Posted by Ronbill

well knowing a thing or two about aquatic biology, I would say no large fish should really be supported OUT OF WATER! Plain and simple. It's not just the bones, but more importantly the internal organs like the swim bladder that need the support of water.
Smaller fish are a different story.

this ^ ^ ^ ^

[Blake]

Originally Posted by Patrick Walsh

I can assure you, Outdoor Canada does not Photoshop Gord Pyzer's fish photos to enhance size, etc. (or any other photos, for that matter). And having seen the original file of the photo you are referring to (Gord with the lake trout), I guarantee you this is the original image. It's all about camera angle and getting in close to accentuate the fish (and to make a cool shot).

I should also note that Gord, as a retired fisheries management biologist, is one of the foremost and respected proponents of proper fish handling, not to mention catch-and-release fishing. And his writings on the subject are numerous (for example, the blog cited at the beginning of this thread).

As for Outdoor Canada being "low end," I think the publication's numerous National Magazine Awards and the fact it's twice been named Magazine of the Year (by the Canadian Society of Magazine Editors) speaks for itself. And much of the credit goes to our Alberta-based field editors and contributors: Bruce Masterman, Brad Fenson, T.J. Schwanky, Rich Mellon, Ken Bailey & Jim McLennan.

Just saw this reply. And er, uh, er, well thanks for missing the whole sarcastic thing (ya know, this thing, labeled SARCASTIC...) I had going on in my post where I was actually sticking up for/defending Gord Pyzer and Outdoor Canada.

[Blake]

Originally Posted by slivers86

Definitely sarcasm lol Personally, in the time I've known blake, never seen him use sarcasm EVERR..

If I could figure out how to raspberry online...

[Patrick Walsh]

Thanks Blake. I clearly need to brush up on my emoticons!