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09-07-2020, 10:58 AM
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Lubrication For Semi Auto Shotguns
Twice I have been on goose hunts, where a semi auto either failed to cycle or even failed to fire. In both cases, the action looked clean, but had absolutely zero lubrication visible. The SBE2 has a rotary bolt, and it didn't seem to fully rotate into position, so the gun would not fire. The A400, was cleaned, but wouldn't cycle. While oil in the area of the gas piston and ports is not a good idea, a thin film of oil on the bolt and where metal to metal friction is present, can really help a shotgun to cycle. The SBE2 is recoil operated, so there is no issue with oil and a gas system, and a thin film of lubricant on the bolt and between the metal moving parts is a good idea. I use a low temperature synthetic lube, and I have had zero issues with my semi auto shotguns in the field. However, using too much oil , or oil that thickens in the cold can cause cycling issues.
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09-07-2020, 11:12 AM
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I agree. I use Mobil 1 0w20 oil and Mobil 1 synthetic grease to lubricate semi autos. It is really cheap compared to synthetic stuff that is gun specific and works great.
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09-07-2020, 11:14 AM
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i use g96 to clean, and a drop or two of Outers gun oil smeared around the bolt and action with my fingers.
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09-07-2020, 12:09 PM
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Anyone use graphite spray on their autos?
I switched to it on my 1100, seemed to run the same.
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09-07-2020, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
Anyone use graphite spray on their autos?
I switched to it on my 1100, seemed to run the same.
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I use low temp or dry graphite on firing pins and springs. I tried it on the bolt etc but hated the black marks it left on stuff and it was very hard to get out of clothes. It is a great lube if they could find a way for it not to stain so badly.
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09-07-2020, 01:58 PM
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Balistol. I wet the rug with it and rub all parts of the gun. That’s enough to cycle my semi auto Stoeger like a Swiss watch.... Even after we got rained on, the water just dries and the thin layer of oil stays...
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09-07-2020, 02:02 PM
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I use Lucas gun oil on all my guns now, it works great on semi auto handguns (The oil doesn't just boil away when they are hot, rails stay lubed).. I use it on my A400 Unico and never had an issue with it...it's great stuff. Also never had an issue with it in the cold. I use the original.
https://lucasoil.com/products/out-door-line/gun-oil
But they have a full line of gun products.
https://lucasoil.com/products/out-door-line
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09-07-2020, 02:32 PM
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I have done some semi's for friends. In my experience the problem is people clean and lube them after the season. By next season or especially if they sit for over a year the oil gums up a little. A bit of gum and cold weather is a recipe for no go.
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09-12-2020, 12:55 AM
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Most stores carry Bruno and it did amazing things for my semi shotgun. Ended my -30C jams.
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09-12-2020, 07:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
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Yup,I've been using Lucas oil for the last 5 years or so(also use Original),had my local Napa Auto parts store order it in for me,good stuff for semi's.
Used sparingly with a Rem. cloth for wiping on parts,it has very good adhesion and lubricity.
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09-12-2020, 08:13 AM
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09-12-2020, 11:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DLab
Yup,I've been using Lucas oil for the last 5 years or so(also use Original),had my local Napa Auto parts store order it in for me,good stuff for semi's.
Used sparingly with a Rem. cloth for wiping on parts,it has very good adhesion and lubricity.
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Watch for Boxing Day sale on Amazon. I picked up 5 bottles for $32 shipped, that will last me a little while.
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09-12-2020, 02:25 PM
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I use Lubriplate in my Garand, apparently what's recommended.
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09-15-2020, 01:45 AM
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Frog lube. Works great. Sparingly.
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09-15-2020, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rem338win
Frog lube. Works great. Sparingly.
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agree here, love the stuff. Works well in all temps.
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09-15-2020, 08:54 AM
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Remington spray lube has worked well in my bolt actions in all weather; don't have any semi-autos to use it on, though.
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09-16-2020, 10:17 PM
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Marvel Mystery Oil works for most of my .22s, they are cheap in PrincessAuto
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09-17-2020, 05:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rem338win
Frog lube. Works great. Sparingly.
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Tried it on my semi, very sparingly. No thanks, even at -5 my semi quit.
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09-17-2020, 08:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pikergolf
Tried it on my semi, very sparingly. No thanks, even at -5 my semi quit.
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Not the first time I've heard or read that about Frog lube.
As for bolt guns,a light film of extra fine synthetic grease on the bolt/receiver lug face and cocking surfaces is all I do,no oil except for storage.When I take a bolt apart I'll wipe the spring and firing pin down with a Rem. cloth with Lucas oil but that's about it.
Oil tends to act like a magnet for dirt and dust IMO.
Also,people tend to think more is better when it comes to oil or lube. I've seen rifles at the Range literally soaked with oil causing a hydraulic effect in the chamber/barrel ending with a nasty result.
Sorry for the derail.
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09-20-2020, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pikergolf
Tried it on my semi, very sparingly. No thanks, even at -5 my semi quit.
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Used it all the way down to -20. Never gliched.
Use very little and it goes a long way.
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09-20-2020, 05:40 PM
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Anyone try the Remington DriLube?
It has Teflon and dries after application. They say it is good for cold weather. I've used it for years on bolt actions. Not the slickest, but nothing has ever failed to work, even in very cold weather. Because it dries, does not collect dust.
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09-21-2020, 08:04 PM
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A light coating of G96
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09-21-2020, 08:28 PM
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That heavenly smell
G96 on everything. Bolts, levers, semis .. never an issue.
Contains lubricants which will not freeze, oxidize, or evaporate (the result of missile research). Leaves no gummy residue. Keeps firing pin and all moving parts working as low as -50F below zero; insures perfect firing every time.
If necessary, clean firearm first using G96 Bore Solvent or G96 Crud Buster. Apply evenly over area to be treated. Allow to set for 60 seconds. Wipe with clean cloth. Apply to all metal surfaces, inside chamber and inside barrel. Wipe after application. When treating gun for first time or for long term storage protection, apply three times, wiping dry after first and second application. Note: After treating gun allow solvent contained in the oil to evaporate for 10 minutes before placing gun in any airtight container such as a gun case, sealed carton, etc.
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