I fear for my country

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

The police carry pepper spray, tasers and batons in addition to their firearms. If they allow these idiots to punch them in the head and try to injure them without using the tools that they carry to defend themselves, it's their own fault.

Except youre wrong again. They are scared to do whats right because their management and our media vilify anyone in authority based on their actions against someone's race, age, vulnerability and any other contrary issue they can come up with. There are hundreds of examples of that. Read CPS' Chief's recent media coverage.

Without the silent majority waking up and speaking out against that nonsense, this will become the norm. Ask any cop if they would rather be physically, even permanently, harmed or endure years of media vilification and punative action from their agency, I guarantee they would say the former. This stress is real and has been for a years.

Your dislike for police is clouding sound judgement.

[jackal]

“Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world.”
Vladimir Lenin

Looks like the commies are getting what they want with our children, time to wake up people.

[260 Rem]

Originally Posted by gunluvr

My friend's kid was given three choices for an essay topic in his social studies class recently. Indigenous rights, LGBTQ movement, or BLM.
Why do courses have to concentrate on other people's social concerns and not on making our kids more successful in their own lives? Teach them how to get a job, save money, be somebody. Kids need to learn to look after their own problems before they concern themselves with everyone else's.
The world would be a better place if everyone minded their own business and tried to be the best they can be.

No doubt much of the response to this reflects personal bias and underestimates the ability of kids to present their own ideas. First, I would expect students to present their opinions and support their argument. No doubt some would reject support for the “topic” while others would be very “pro”. What is wrong with that? Some parents might not like what their kids think unless it supports their own bias, but in most cases, the kids will present the arguments they are hearing at home. The topics mentioned are timely and relevant to what is happening today. Somehow, the “ostrich” strategy does seem like the best solution to prepare kids for the world. Oh, I know, all teachers are in favor of indigenous rights, BLM, and LGBTQ...but reality is that teachers pretty much reflect the rest of society.
Well, this Covid thing has thrown open the door for parents that wish to Home School. Lots of support for those that want to insure their kids are exposed only to parental bias.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

My father was sure my generation was fast tracking the world to hell ... started with Elvis then the Beatles / hippies / long hair in the seventies.... And now y’all are calling my time in the sun “the good old days”. The fires in California in the mid sixties were in the cities.
In spite of hitting a few bumps in the road we’re doing OK and the sky is not falling.

No, it isnt comparable. The Beatles and Elvis didnt glorify cop killing, they didnt glorify murder and shootings, they didnt dehumanize people groups, they didnt encourage hate or organized crime. A quick purusal of modern popular music is disgusting.

The riots of the 60s arent born buy a hate group like BLM, they didnt have the media and political support and defijitely werent funded like Antifa and BLM.

This is far worse. Largely because its built on lies propagated by people that have a lot of control in our own system. People need to start waking up to help because this "nothing to see here. Its all ok" attitude is going to be our greatest downfall.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

No doubt much of the response to this reflects personal bias and underestimates the ability of kids to present their own ideas. First, I would expect students to present their opinions and support their argument. No doubt some would reject support for the “topic” while others would be very “pro”. What is wrong with that? Some parents might not like what their kids think unless it supports their own bias, but in most cases, the kids will present the arguments they are hearing at home. The topics mentioned are timely and relevant to what is happening today. Somehow, the “ostrich” strategy does seem like the best solution to prepare kids for the world. Oh, I know, all teachers are in favor of indigenous rights, BLM, and LGBTQ...but reality is that teachers pretty much reflect the rest of society.
Well, this Covid thing has thrown open the door for parents that wish to Home School. Lots of support for those that want to insure their kids are exposed only to parental bias.

Because there isnt any bias in the system. You forget most of us went through it. Its just as bias and to pretend it isnt is ignorant.

[JDK71]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Except youre wrong again. They are scared to do whats right because their management and our media vilify anyone in authority based on their actions against someone's race, age, vulnerability and any other contrary issue they can come up with. There are hundreds of examples of that. Read CPS' Chief's recent media coverage.

Without the silent majority waking up and speaking out against that nonsense, this will become the norm. Ask any cop if they would rather be physically, even permanently, harmed or endure years of media vilification and punative action from their agency, I guarantee they would say the former. This stress is real and has been for a years.

Your dislike for police is clouding sound judgement.

so true

[tri777]

Originally Posted by jackal

“Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world.”
Vladimir Lenin

Looks like the commies are getting what they want with our children, time to wake up people.

Yup, Yuri Bezmenov said it accurately in '84 (:54secs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gImmzyIf_E

[NewGuard84]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Kids loved Elvis and the Beatles ... parents/adults not much. Hippies were generally looked on (by adults) as lazy free loaders that actively campaigned against the military (in the US}. Hippies were far from ever being an influential majority among kids, much like today where only very few kids are lawless threats to “the man”. Then, like now, the news highlighted conflict and violence.
My bet is that most teachers will tell you that a solid majority of teenaged students (maybe 90%), are respectful of authority. And, that number has likely held steady over the past fifty years. Furthermore, attitudes tend to become more conservative with age ... (well, at least until “old age”). Notwithstanding some bumps in the road, the future is bright.

Your posts here are refreshing. Troubling events occur and I share the outrage and disappointment but overall we are still doing relatively fine in Canada.

We are not descending into chaos and lawlessness. An overly alarmist outlook does more harm than good, just ask our southern neighbours.

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

No doubt much of the response to this reflects personal bias and underestimates the ability of kids to present their own ideas. First, I would expect students to present their opinions and support their argument. No doubt some would reject support for the “topic” while others would be very “pro”. What is wrong with that? Some parents might not like what their kids think unless it supports their own bias, but in most cases, the kids will present the arguments they are hearing at home. The topics mentioned are timely and relevant to what is happening today. Somehow, the “ostrich” strategy does seem like the best solution to prepare kids for the world. Oh, I know, all teachers are in favor of indigenous rights, BLM, and LGBTQ...but reality is that teachers pretty much reflect the rest of society.
Well, this Covid thing has thrown open the door for parents that wish to Home School. Lots of support for those that want to insure their kids are exposed only to parental bias.

Kids soon learn in school that they should swallow and regurgitate the standard doctrine popular with liberal mentality by a mostly liberal army of educators. Unless their parents teach them to think for themselves, kids mostly put their faith in their teacher's guidance which is how (liberal) teachers come to have such an influence on the attitudes and actions of today's youth.
So you can blame parents too.

[260 Rem]

Originally Posted by gunluvr

Kids soon learn in school that they should swallow and regurgitate the standard doctrine popular with liberal mentality by a mostly liberal army of educators. Unless their parents teach them to think for themselves, kids mostly put their faith in their teacher's guidance which is how (liberal) teachers come to have such an influence on the attitudes and actions of today's youth.
So you can blame parents too.

Learning to “regurgitate” what is perceived to be expected is a life skill whether it be in response to your wife asking if a particular dress makes her look fat, or at a meeting where the boss is leaning a particular direction. It boils down to “survival”. And, it’s not just teachers that impart that skill set.
Parents should be surprised at how limited teacher influence really is ... take occupational choice for which the role of the parent is paramount.
Notwithstanding its many faults, I believe strongly in the public education system and after spending 32 years in the system, I am amazed how resilient kids can be, especially those that succeed regardless of some poor teachers and bad parents.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Except youre wrong again. They are scared to do whats right because their management and our media vilify anyone in authority based on their actions against someone's race, age, vulnerability and any other contrary issue they can come up with. There are hundreds of examples of that. Read CPS' Chief's recent media coverage.

Without the silent majority waking up and speaking out against that nonsense, this will become the norm. Ask any cop if they would rather be physically, even permanently, harmed or endure years of media vilification and punative action from their agency, I guarantee they would say the former. This stress is real and has been for a years.

Your dislike for police is clouding sound judgement.

I am not at all wrong , your own statement "to do what's right", shows that we agree on what is right. And if the officers did defend themselves, I would support them 100%, as I have done in cases where officers did use force with protesters.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

No doubt much of the response to this reflects personal bias and underestimates the ability of kids to present their own ideas. First, I would expect students to present their opinions and support their argument. No doubt some would reject support for the “topic” while others would be very “pro”. What is wrong with that? Some parents might not like what their kids think unless it supports their own bias, but in most cases, the kids will present the arguments they are hearing at home. The topics mentioned are timely and relevant to what is happening today. Somehow, the “ostrich” strategy does seem like the best solution to prepare kids for the world. Oh, I know, all teachers are in favor of indigenous rights, BLM, and LGBTQ...but reality is that teachers pretty much reflect the rest of society.
Well, this Covid thing has thrown open the door for parents that wish to Home School. Lots of support for those that want to insure their kids are exposed only to parental bias.

Jim, things have changed. 15 years ago, you could politely, with carefully chosen words, disagree with these things and express small c conservative and/or a Judeo Christian worldview without fear of reprimand. It is simply not so now. It is simply not so. In my school, I know there are three teachers who would consider themselves right of center, but would not feel the liberty to disagree with any newfangled idea that comes down the pike, for fear of being called up on the carpet, having a letter on their file, and being sent for sensitivity training. You know me. I'm no radical in any way, shape or form. However, my faith shapes and is at the core of my worldview, not what the gov't tells me it should be. While the Charter still allows for freedom of religious expression in theory, I don't really have that right anymore.

BTW, I have nothing against any people group or lifestyle, but I also don't want it rammed down my throat either.

Back to that video. Did you actually watch it?

[pikergolf]

Anyone else watch that little psychopath punching the cop care thinking that kid has no chance like I did?

[bobwayzie]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

Do you mean Nenshi, Iveson, and 15 major city councilors?
Because they all support that crap.

Police officer struck in the head....give me a break.
She would have been justified in drawing her weapon and dropping at least a couple of them.
And they were mostly white, so no one would have cared really.

Them and many more.

[260 Rem]

Originally Posted by sns2

Jim, things have changed. 15 years ago, you could politely, with carefully chosen words, disagree with these things and express small c conservative and/or a Judeo Christian worldview without fear of reprimand. It is simply not so now. It is simply not so. In my school, I know there are three teachers who would consider themselves right of center, but would not feel the liberty to disagree with any newfangled idea that comes down the pike, for fear of being called up on the carpet, having a letter on their file, and being sent for sensitivity training. You know me. I'm no radical in any way, shape or form. However, my faith shapes and is at the core of my worldview, not what the gov't tells me it should be. While the Charter still allows for freedom of religious expression in theory, I don't really have that right anymore.

BTW, I have nothing against any people group or lifestyle, but I also don't want it rammed down my throat either.

Back to that video. Did you actually watch it?

Throughout the 30 years I was a Principal, I knew only a handful of administrators that successfully bullied staff to the extent that is suggested by the three conservative butt kissers that fear reprimand for expressing their opinions. Sounds like a clean-up is needed in aisle 3!
Occasionally we would get someone from central office campaigning a “new” pet they picked up at summer school in Oregon. Most of us had the sense to recognize fads and made sure that teachers felt secure in doing what was right.
Yes, I watched the video and like most would have supported a bit of rough justice.
The “group” in the video are not typical of a cross section of the youth in any school. They were a special bunch, a gang...and probably more than a few beyond being teens.

[3blade]

EVERYONE JUST WAIT ONE DANG MINUTE...


One of those kids is from High River

[KC1]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Throughout the 30 years I was a Principal, I knew only a handful of administrators that successfully bullied staff to the extent that is suggested by the three conservative butt kissers that fear reprimand for expressing their opinions. Sounds like a clean-up is needed in aisle 3!
Occasionally we would get someone from central office campaigning a “new” pet they picked up at summer school in Oregon. Most of us had the sense to recognize fads and made sure that teachers felt secure in doing what was right.
Yes, I watched the video and like most would have supported a bit of rough justice.
The “group” in the video are not typical of a cross section of the youth in any school. They were a special bunch, a gang...and probably more than a few beyond being teens.

EVERY MAN NEEDS TWO THINGS TO LIVE A SUCCESFUUL LIFE
FIRST HE NEEDS A MORAL CODE OF RIGHT AND SECONDLY HE MUST HAVE A BACKBONE TO KEEP HIM FROM BEING SWAYED BY THOSE WITH NO MORAL CODE
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[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by chasingtail

Looking through my kids homework yesterday they are learning about BLM.
It paints blacks as victims, BLM is good and police are white and bad.
Also they are learning about the WE scandal. Basically how great the WE charity is for students.
Garbage, shut the schools down and give the savings to parents to home school.
Costs taxpayers 15-20k per kid a year to teach them this crap.

Oh that would drive me over the edge, I would be at the school in a heartbeat and they would have to drag me out if that tried that garbage here.

Originally Posted by gunluvr

My friend's kid was given three choices for an essay topic in his social studies class recently. Indigenous rights, LGBTQ movement, or BLM.
Why do courses have to concentrate on other people's social concerns and not on making our kids more successful in their own lives? Teach them how to get a job, save money, be somebody. Kids need to learn to look after their own problems before they concern themselves with everyone else's.
The world would be a better place if everyone minded their own business and tried to be the best they can be.

I had to write on current events in social studies in the 80's too, they said to watch the news, pick a story and write about it.

Your friends teacher liberal is showing.

[precloading]

Time to bringin the marines!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rapn...ConceitedChris

[sns2]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Because there isnt any bias in the system. You forget most of us went through it. Its just as bias and to pretend it isnt is ignorant.

Keep in mind you went through system that was 100% designed and managed by a conservative gov't. Just sayin. And of course there is bias everywhere.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Throughout the 30 years I was a Principal, I knew only a handful of administrators that successfully bullied staff to the extent that is suggested by the three conservative butt kissers that fear reprimand for expressing their opinions. Sounds like a clean-up is needed in aisle 3!
Occasionally we would get someone from central office campaigning a “new” pet they picked up at summer school in Oregon. Most of us had the sense to recognize fads and made sure that teachers felt secure in doing what was right.
Yes, I watched the video and like most would have supported a bit of rough justice.
The “group” in the video are not typical of a cross section of the youth in any school. They were a special bunch, a gang...and probably more than a few beyond being teens.

I'm surprised you are calling guys who want to ensure they do not have letters placed on their files or be sent for sensitivity training as butt-kissers. I am one of them. It would be great if everyone had a supportive principal like you were, but that is not reality, and you know that.

I do have to ask though how long you have been retired? The world, including what is considered acceptable in the workplace, does change.

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

Oh that would drive me over the edge, I would be at the school in a heartbeat and they would have to drag me out if that tried that garbage here.

You better get down there. They're teaching it pretty much everywhere.

[260 Rem]

Originally Posted by sns2

I'm surprised you are calling guys who want to ensure they do not have letters placed on their files or be sent for sensitivity training as butt-kissers. I am one of them. It would be great if everyone had a supportive principal like you were, but that is not reality, and you know that.

I do have to ask though how long you have been retired? The world, including what is considered acceptable in the workplace, does change.

Retired in 2002 and can appreciate that some things have changed, but one thing I suspect that has not ... is that bully type Principals don’t like getting dragged through professional relations investigations by the ATA ... and fear a letter in their file as much as those they successfully bully. By-the-way, I must have had lots of “letters” in my file

[sns2]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Retired in 2002 and can appreciate that some things have changed, but one thing I suspect that has not ... is that bully type Principals don’t like getting dragged through professional relations investigations by the ATA ... and fear a letter in their file as much as those they successfully bully. By-the-way, I must have had lots of “letters” in my file

All I can say is I wish Icould flip a switch back to 2002.

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[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by sns2

All I can say is I wish Icould flip a switch back to 2002.

Agreed, sns2. A lot has changed since then.

Back to the comment about the hippies etc. - "Death to the Pigs" started back then. The breakdown of the nuclear family and disrespect for authority were well underway by then.

The socialists often use the anti-authority angle to push their agenda ("down with the establishment" etc.) Even as early as the end of WWI, the communists in Germany would beat up soldiers in uniform returning from the war.

[NCC]

Might is right. If the RCMP dispatched four 6' tall officers with calloused knuckles, crooked noses, and cauliflower ears, no officers would have been attacked (Big tough cops without a chip on their shoulders likely wouldn't have beat up the Star Wars Trooper in Lethbridge either, but that's another story).

I fear that the police will be defunded, we will descend into lawlessness, the government will declare martial law, the military will overthrow the government and we will be left with a Marxist dictator. I won't live long enough to see it, but we're moving that direction (i.e. guaranteed income support). More people on the dole equals more people sleeping all day and rioting all night.

You can vote your way into communism, but you'll have to shoot your way out.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by sns2

Keep in mind you went through system that was 100% designed and managed by a conservative gov't. Just sayin. And of course there is bias everywhere.

The system itself is broken. It wasn't about left/right or any of that.

Our system 30 years ago wasn't conservative for the time nor now either.

[The Cook]

Pandemic, turdo, trump, out of control wildfires (some intentionally set), putin china. Time for a well stocked pantry and dry powder. Oh and by the way Lambs Dark Navy Rum is on sale this week at Safeway and Sobeys liquor store, Buy 5 and #6 is free. WHEEEEEE

[sns2]

Originally Posted by rem338win

The system itself is broken. It wasn't about left/right or any of that.

Our system 30 years ago wasn't conservative for the time nor now either.

Hard to say, I never got rid of the textbooks I used when I was in gr 12 (1985) until 2008. I liked them because they were factual and to the point, with really no social bias. If you got overt bias in high school, it was from the mouth of the teacher because the internet wasn't a thing yet. No CNN. No Fox News. And old Knowlton Nash kinda told it like it was

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by sns2

All I can say is I wish I could flip a switch back to 2002.

I find it interesting that someone who retired 18 years ago insists on telling you, who work in it every day, how the system currently works.
IME- some of the curriculum that was being taught in the Calgary Public School system around that time was the sort of stuff Yuri Bezmenov warned us about in 1984. It has gotten worse since then, no matter what stratagem the wilfully blind use to deny the truth.