STIHL Ice Auger

[thorne]

Originally Posted by AppleJax

Good point, keep em coming! I think to be fair we would have to take all sorts of things into consideration. Not just who punches the hole quickest, allthough punching through 3 feet of ice in 10 seconds is pretty cool!

Yes....and no..I had a 2hp jiffy which blew up last year, but when it was running, it was fast...very fast...tofast. I hated the way it threw ice everywhere and just dropped through the bottom of the ice. Geezle's old Eskimo drilled at a nice slower and even speed, and kept all the ice shards in one place. Very desirable when drilling in agent or not wanting to fill your boots!

[kenh]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

Lol I would never use an incorrect tool incorrectly. Plastic gets brittle in the cold that's not an opinion . Throttle trigger is plastic if memory serves. 1000$ paper weight with one touch of my mate Murphy. Jiffy is mostly Murphy proof. Imo .

Not the new ones!!!!!!!!

[Fish2XS]

Originally Posted by super mario

ihave one works good for me i using 10 inch for whites and lakers olso ihave honda strike mast 8inch also works great

Nice! Thanks for your helpful response, are you using the STIHL auger attachment and cutting blades without any issues? It starts and runs well in all temps and conditions?

[Fish2XS]

Originally Posted by thorne

Nothing wrong with sthil for sure. Was going to get one myself, but I came across an old Jiffy 3.0, and for less then 300, couldn't pass it up. Used it several time so far and it works great. Love then built like a tank design. But you will never go wrong with Stihl!

Thanks! I read on a previous thread that you were planning on picking one up, and was hoping you had so I could quiz you about it. Hard to pass up a good deal on an old tried and tested jiffy tho. It is definitely a lot of money save up which is why I am trying to do as much research as possible before making a purchase.

[Fish2XS]

The STIHL BT 121 auger is a high quality tool often used for demanding commercial applications. They are of rugged, durable construction and are designed to operate without fail under challenging conditions.

http://www.stihlusa.com/products/aug...h-auger/bt121/

Because it was designed with its primary purpose as an earth auger I would like to learn more about how they function on the ice before I make a purchase. I don’t disagree that the old jiffys are tough proven machines; I have run many of them over the years so I know a great deal about their strengths and weaknesses. I started this thread to learn more about the STIHL BT 121. I realize they are uncommon but I’m looking for accounts from individuals who have first hand experience operating or observing these machines at work. Not speculations about how they may perform; and what’s with the “my auger could beat up your auger” nonsense? I have heard very mixed reviews (mostly bad) about many of the new models on the market. It seems its buyer beware when it comes to purchasing a new ice auger, which is why I’m willing to spend the additional money on a quality product and a highly trusted brand. In my opinion there is also much to be said about a tool that serves multiple purposes and can be used 12 months out of the year.

[AppleJax]

Are you wanting the Stihl as ice auger only, or planning on using it for post holes as well? Also, got a chuckle out of the my auger can beat up your auger tidbit!

[Fish2XS]

Primarily for ice fishing but would use it as a post hole auger as well, just be a matter of purchasing the earth auger attachment.

[Penner]

For the most part these days you get what you pay for. I think one would be pleased with a Stihl.

Anyone curious in checking out the Husqvarna auger, the link is as follows. If i recall corectly I paid $700 for mine in a 10" about 5 years back. http://www.husqvarna.com/ca/en/produ...specifications

[dodgeboy1979]

i used the stihl ice auger for work for years drilling through frozen drilling mud sumps to get samples, never had a problem starting it, and it was really quiet when compared to Jiffy, strikemaster etc..... If i had the cash to spend on an ice auger like that i wouldn't hesitate.

[Jamie Black R/T]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

Find an old proven steel jiffy model 30 3hp. All day every day hands down. Look after it ,it will look after you. 5 yrs not one issue and it was purchased second hand 200$. Same plug same blade same reliable operation. If and that's a small if I ever need an other auger it will be the same mod 30 3hp . My5€

i have this same problem....15 year old 2hp jiffy just wont die! starts in any conditions and busts holes RFN.

so many nice new 10" augers on the market and every year i say: "this will be the year my jiffy dies and ill get to buy a new one"

heres hoping for next year....

[Hunter Trav]

That Stihl auger is kinda goofy looking. Who want to drill a hole with an ugly auger...lol

[thorne]

When I was reasearching Sthil last year one of the small engine repair shops had a great point, Sthil makes Sthil engines, and they are are used world wide, meaning parts and finding someone to fix if if something goes wrong is easy. The everyday auger companies use other peoples engines and parts and as such, change them up, or have obscure parts which may not be a readily available.

[Hunter Trav]

Originally Posted by thorne

When I was reasearching Sthil last year one of the small engine repair shops had a great point, Sthil makes Sthil engines, and they are are used world wide, meaning parts and finding someone to fix if if something goes wrong is easy. The everyday auger companies use other peoples engines and parts and as such, change them up, or have obscure parts which may not be a readily available.

Yeah but it's STIHL goofy looking...

[Fish2XS]

Good point thorne, thanks for the HELPFULL comments... with a few parts and a little maintenance a STHIL would likely last a lifetime of heavy use unlike most augers on the market today.

[thorne]

Damn you fishing2xs......now I want a sthil again.....anyone want a good deal on an 8 year old Jiffy 30 which rocks!....anyone?!?

[Hunter Trav]

If its a 10", PM me with a price...

[bucknaked333]

I have one for ten or so years now and have used it for ice and post holes. It is rugged and dependable. There is a rental place in town that rents them out and say they are tough tough. For ice they are slower than some but make up for it in power. I think it probably will be my last ice auger.

[Fish2XS]

Originally Posted by thorne

Damn you fishing2xs......now I want a sthil again.....anyone want a good deal on an 8 year old Jiffy 30 which rocks!....anyone?!?

Haha, sorry to stir up old feelings thorne!

[Fish2XS]

Originally Posted by bucknaked333

I have one for ten or so years now and have used it for ice and post holes. It is rugged and dependable. There is a rental place in town that rents them out and say they are tough tough. For ice they are slower than some but make up for it in power. I think it probably will be my last ice auger.

Thanks! That’s great testimony. Have you had any trouble with the bit getting caught up and trying to rip your shoulders out when you get down to the last inch of ice? At least 4 different individuals have made this complaint. Most augers I have used seem to grab a bit when you break through the ice at the bottom of the hole, but it seems to be a bit bigger issue with the STIHLs. Some have gotten around this by building an adapter to accept other manufacturer’s ice bits. Some say they just lift slightly on the machine when it is about to punch through the ice. Any experience with this issue?

[dragon]

Originally Posted by AppleJax

What I woud like to do is organize some sort of an auger competition this winter when the ice reaches 3 feet. Do it on some sort of a point system. Have all things considered, ease of use, reliability, cold start up, drill speed, etc.

The issue at hand is long term reliability. Who cares if its 10 seconds or 20 seconds to drill a hole. Or if it takes 30 seconds to warm up...

if my auger was the slowest and took the longest to warm up but never had to fix it ever I would be happy

[thorne]

Originally Posted by Fish2XS

Haha, sorry to stir up old feelings thorne!

It was to much.....I got a Sthil...Just picked it up.....HUBBA HUBBA!!! Just playing with it and its very obvious why Sthil has the reputation it does! All I can say is ask no more, if its in your price range...GET IT!!!

BTW MY old gal is up for sale, 2007 Jiffy 3.0 with 8" rippers up for sale, see add in fishing items for sale.

[Fish2XS]

Haha, finally pulled the trigger! Glad you like it, I'm very close to buying one myself. Have you punched any holes with it yet? Let me know how it performs on you next trip.

[AppleJax]

Originally Posted by dragon

The issue at hand is long term reliability. Who cares if its 10 seconds or 20 seconds to drill a hole. Or if it takes 30 seconds to warm up...

if my auger was the slowest and took the longest to warm up but never had to fix it ever I would be happy

Did you even read what I wrote? And if long term reliability is the decision maker, stihl and Husqvarna would be the top contenders. Thorne, nice to hear you bought the Stihl! I'd like to see that thing in action sometime.

[huntin'fool]

Originally Posted by thorne

It was to much.....I got a Sthil...Just picked it up.....HUBBA HUBBA!!! Just playing with it and its very obvious why Sthil has the reputation it does! All I can say is ask no more, if its in your price range...GET IT!!!

BTW MY old gal is up for sale, 2007 Jiffy 3.0 with 8" rippers up for sale, see add in fishing items for sale.

[thorne]

Originally Posted by huntin'fool

Ya your more then partly to blame for this....oh ya, if any one is planning on going to hermitage, ignore the hundreds of holes I just punched in there for fun....Anand yes it was!

Love hearing the engine purrrrr at 12000ish rpms, a very solid and constant turn of the auger. It's definately a slower turning screw but it doesn't throw crap everywhere and just sinks through the ice....very cool, and soooo easy easy starting. My 30 jiffy wasn't bad, but this is just stupid easy. I also love that it has a padded steel wrap around roll cage.....yep what's not to love. Kinda like going from a good old 67 Chevy big block, to a modern high end German preformed. Also love the easy to get at carb adjustments and maintenence items. It was designed to be used and maintained by the owner....anyway its cool. Gonna go drill a few more holes......

[Hunter Trav]

So where's they pictures???

[Outdoorsmen for life]

Hey my fellow outdoorsmen friend, recently just bought a stihl BT-130 auger and put a 10 inch ice bit on it. Seems to work great but there is one major flaw in this machine. While drilling into 15-24 inches of ice it will not drill the last 2 inches without ripping your arms off a throwing on the brake and i have tried every drilling technique. Just wondering if you have heard this or went through this with your auger

Cheers

[German]

From what I've been reading, I better upgrade my 20 year old jiffy because it's too heavy & takes 20 seconds longer to drill a hole. There's $750. Then there's my 14' aluminum boat with a 10 HP evinrude. Boat's too small & so is the motor. Dang! It's expensive to keep up with the Jone's & become a chest pounder. Everyone always needs the newer, lighter, faster toy.

'Merica! errr I mean 'Berta

[EZM]

It sounds like that is not uncommon for Stihl augers. I don't know why but I've recently fished beside a group that had one and it did the exact same thing - just seemed to bind up at the bottom of the hole right before breaking through. Chatted a little with the guy and he says it's been like that since day one. He seemed to be lifting up a little when she started to bind at the bottom but it definitely seemed like a pain in the butt to me.

These augers seem to cut slow and steady (similar to a Husky). Both these are high torque but the Husky flight looks a little different. I watched AJ's auger in action - light, reasonably fast and smooth all the way through.

My guess is ..... it is what it is ........ maybe try calling customer service - maybe they have a fix or solution. I'd try turning up the speed if possible.

[Dean2]

For most guys, I strongly suggest you rent one before you shell out the money to buy one. I used a rental when I was in northern BC. I would not trade my 40 year old Jiffy 30 straight across for the Stihl for drilling holes in ice. The Stihl is bulkier, heavier and didn't cut any better. It would also be a lot harder to work on. As a dirt auger, the Stihl would be my choice because of the lower gearing and higher torque output, which is overkill for drilling holes in ice. (I have never had to do anything but replace plugs, a blade and a gas line/primer on the Jiffy.)

Easiest fix I found for the binding in the last bit is to lift up on the auger and take some of the weight off the flight. It reduces binding. A chipper blade would also help but I have never seen one for the Stihl.

To each his own but more expensive doesn't always produce a better result and I can't see the Stihl lasting three times as long with the same amount of use as my Jiffy..