Hook and release Mortality

[coyoteman]

At police outpost,over the years,before the winter kill.It was non uncommon in a morning to release 30-40 trout, in the high 40s cm.you could keep one over 50 cm if desired.Of course barbless hooks were used and none were taken aboard.There was a certain mortality,fish floating,or dead on the bottom in shoal water.This being the case,I reduced the number of fish hooked and released.A self imposed limit of say 10 per day may work for the benefit of all.The number of fisherman,increaseing yearly,and we want to protect this precious resourse for the benefit of all.The idea of a trophy lake works well,and knowing you have a lake to go to hook and release some really big trout,thats for sure is a good thing for the serious fly fisherman.

[Flymph]

I greatly respect your thoughts on releasing fewer fish. But, maybe the dead fish you are seeing are due to careless release and revival practices. Flies tied on barbless hooks account for less than 5% mortality if you are fishing in water less than 20C.

https://henrysfork.org/files/Rob%20B...y%20review.pdf

In my neck of the woods there is mostly lake fishing where most fly-flingers do not fish in surface temps greater than 65F.

[pikergolf]

The biggest variable on fish mortality is the angler. When you want to play the hero and take 10 min to land an 18 inch stocked trout pond fish you can expect to kill a few. Use the appropriate tippet and land them quickly, things get a lot better. Photo's and poor handling kill lots as well.

[ShortsideK]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

The biggest variable on fish mortality is the angler. When you want to play the hero and take 10 min to land an 18 inch stocked trout pond fish you can expect to kill a few. Use the appropriate tippet and land them quickly, things get a lot better. Photo's and poor handling kill lots as well.

C'est la vie.
That will never change.

[Don Andersen]

Originally Posted by ShortsideK

C'est la vie.
That will never change.

Wrong,

Cell phone cameras changed all that. Multiple shots, framing kills fish.

Leave your phone in your vehicle, the fish will thank you.


Don

[Jokey75]

Seriously though....why are we even engaging these "topics" from this poster?

Let these posts die a natural death of zero replies.

J

[Mr Flyguy]

Originally Posted by Jokey75

Seriously though....why are we even engaging these "topics" from this poster?

Let these posts die a natural death of zero replies.

J

I agree but Mr. coyoteman's posts seem to roil the blood. So he's an effective troller, despite the erudite (snerk) treatises on techniques.

Was that you at Muir the other evening, while waiting for some buddies? Let me know how you did by PM.

[coyoteman]

Originally Posted by Mr Flyguy

I agree but Mr. coyoteman's posts seem to roil the blood. So he's an effective troller, despite the erudite (snerk) treatises on techniques.

Was that you at Muir the other evening, while waiting for some buddies? Let me know how you did by PM.

Nooo way--not riseing to the fly----

[coyoteman]

Originally Posted by Mr Flyguy

I agree but Mr. coyoteman's posts seem to roil the blood. So he's an effective troller, despite the erudite (snerk) treatises on techniques.

Was that you at Muir the other evening, while waiting for some buddies? Let me know how you did by PM.

Noooo way-- not riseing to the fly hahahehehe

[coyoteman]

Originally Posted by Jokey75

Seriously though....why are we even engaging these "topics" from this poster?

Let these posts die a natural death of zero replies.

J

Now now dont be naughty---just a opinion------

[coyoteman]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

The biggest variable on fish mortality is the angler. When you want to play the hero and take 10 min to land an 18 inch stocked trout pond fish you can expect to kill a few. Use the appropriate tippet and land them quickly, things get a lot better. Photo's and poor handling kill lots as well.

Thats excellant advice--I follow every trip.The atlantic salmon from time to time over the years had hook and release periods in certain rivers.We would go there,most always no crowd.I quickly realized the salmon more Delicate than trout,and even a gentle finger touch on the gills and they would bleed.We stopped landing salmon for pictures,and shook then of our barbless hooks--

[coyoteman]

Originally Posted by Don Andersen

Wrong,

Cell phone cameras changed all that. Multiple shots, framing kills fish.

Leave your phone in your vehicle, the fish will thank you.


Don

Excellant advice--It still hurts after many years--To see a dead 50 cm floating on the surface---

[coyoteman]

Originally Posted by Flymph

I greatly respect your thoughts on releasing fewer fish. But, maybe the dead fish you are seeing are due to careless release and revival practices. Flies tied on barbless hooks account for less than 5% mortality if you are fishing in water less than 20C.

https://henrysfork.org/files/Rob%20B...y%20review.pdf

In my neck of the woods there is mostly lake fishing where most fly-flingers do not fish in surface temps greater than 65F.

5% for the careful angler,thats excellant.I have seen osprey in some lakes take more than 5% of what I caught---

[Mr Flyguy]

Originally Posted by coyoteman

5% for the careful angler,thats excellant.I have seen osprey in some lakes take more than 5% of what I caught---

5% of zero = zero

[coyoteman]

Originally Posted by Mr Flyguy

5% of zero = zero

Yes funny but true,over the years I have had many blanks days--Those BC salmon and steelhead ,can prove very difficult to catch.Last year the fisheries were netting salmon for the hatchery, and told me there was an estimate of 1500 salmon in a pool on the Kitimat---Not one could I catch.Plan on heading out to that very pool very soon.