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Old 04-22-2012, 01:08 AM
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Question Farmed Fish Escape

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Would these hatchery fish follow wild fish up streams and spawn with wild fish?
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:00 AM
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Well a few years from now we know where the next world record will come from. Hmmmm kinda sounds familiar.....

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Old 04-22-2012, 10:18 AM
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Would these hatchery fish follow wild fish up streams and spawn with wild fish?
Can't happen these are triploid salmon, they are engineered not to be able to spawn and instead use that energy to rapidly grow faster for harvest. I could see a record broken in the next few years if someone hooks into one of these freaks, there going to be massive
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:57 AM
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Can't happen these are triploid salmon, they are engineered not to be able to spawn and instead use that energy to rapidly grow faster for harvest. I could see a record broken in the next few years if someone hooks into one of these freaks, there going to be massive
well from my experience they do go up the rivers .. these are mutants atlantic salmon NOT from our coast.. they dont grow huge or one would have heard of that before now .. farm freak fish have been escaping pens here for yrs and no one ever says they have caught monsters... these fish are destroying wild salmon with there diseases and antibiotic byproducts and the night mare of sea lice ... farm fish has NEVER worked in any country and always causes problems .. let the dang norweigens have them back .. another big business raping ole ma nature ...

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Old 04-22-2012, 11:09 AM
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Would these hatchery fish follow wild fish up streams and spawn with wild fish?

The reason Hatchery fish are dangerous is that man-made fish cannot reproduce by themselves but get: bigger, handsomer, studlier, in a VERY short amount of time.

They attract mates more easily, shoot blanks, and proceed to have a massive die off due to sterile natives not being able to compete.
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June 1 to Sept. 30 and Dec. 1 to Mar. 31 – Trout limit 1 under 35 cm; All Trout over 35 cm must be released; Mountain Whitefish limit 5 over 30 cm; Maggots are the only bait allowed and only in the river from Aug. 16 to Sept. 30.

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Old 04-22-2012, 11:32 AM
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well from my experience they do go up the rivers .. these are mutants atlantic salmon NOT from our coast.. they dont grow huge or one would have heard of that before now .. farm freak fish have been escaping pens here for yrs and no one ever says they have caught monsters... these fish are destroying wild salmon with there diseases and antibiotic byproducts and the night mare of sea lice ... farm fish has NEVER worked in any country and always causes problems .. let the dang norweigens have them back .. another big business raping ole ma nature ...

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These were not Atlantic salmon they were in fact chinook. Closed pens are a great solution to the lice and spread of disease, if they could just keep the fish in there.

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Old 04-22-2012, 12:34 PM
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I have worked with salmonid viri and to say that we have not had a disaster on our west coast to date is absolutely amazing.
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:59 PM
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which salmonid and which virus? in what capacity?
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:59 PM
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These were not Atlantic salmon they were in fact chinook. Closed pens are a great solution to the lice and spread of disease, if they could just keep the fish in there.
sorry i dont have sound on my puter so i only saw the pix ..

lol can you tell i am ANTI fish farms lol
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:21 PM
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sorry i dont have sound on my puter so i only saw the pix ..

lol can you tell i am ANTI fish farms lol
I am to buds, Im hoping this way is a better solution of doing it but if I had my way it would be in tanks on land. I've hooked salmon passing through a fishfarm land mine bay and it was covered I mean covered in sea lice. I don't think it would have survived its journey to the river.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:24 PM
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I am to buds, Im hoping this way is a better solution of doing it but if I had my way it would be in tanks on land. I've hooked salmon passing through a fishfarm land mine bay and it was covered I mean covered in sea lice. I don't think it would have survived its journey to the river.
sickening isnt it ..i lived in the broughtons and have seen the same thing .. and some people have the gaul to say that the farms cause no greif yikes
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