.240 Weatherby Mag????

addictedfisherman · #1 02-13-2012, 02:47 AM

Is anyone on here shooting this caliber?
I'm looking at it as a potential Coyote/Wolf and antelope gun.

Any thoughts?

Scott N · #2 02-13-2012, 03:26 AM

The downside of any Weatherby cartridge is the cost of ammo and / or brass.

Lefty-Canuck · #3 02-13-2012, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott N

The downside of any Weatherby cartridge is the cost of ammo and / or brass.

As Mentioned the brass is expensive.....but if you can get past that and you reload then its a great cartridge. If you don't reload you will want to have deep pockets specifically if you want to shoot alot or you coyote hunt often.

Here is a thread on the .240WBY...
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=102855

LC

openseason · #4 02-13-2012, 06:21 AM

Yup ultra lightweight .240 works great on deer moose and have even taken bull elk but wouldn't recommend it for elk unless a close shot.

Drop_Tine · #5 02-13-2012, 08:06 AM

Talk to the .240 love birds Whitetail Junkie and Left Canuck they will tell you all the .240 wby fetish !!

JJ-65 · #6 02-13-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott N

The downside of any Weatherby cartridge is the cost of ammo and / or brass.

CH makes a die that turns 25-06 brass into 240 Weatherby brass in one pass, it's just the thing 4 those that bitch and moan about spending a few bucks.

Lefty-Canuck · #7 02-13-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ-65

CH makes a die that turns 25-06 brass into 240 Weatherby brass in one pass, it's just the thing 4 those that bitch and moan about spending a few bucks.

How do you get the belt on the brass if you use 25-06 brass?

I would personally stick with the brass made for the .240 myself.

LC

cmahussier · #8 02-13-2012, 07:17 PM

I have a 240 WBY and love it. Would recomend it to anyone. Ammo is expensive but now days everybody seems to have a buddy to reload for you. I pull mine out of the safe and Coyotes start to tremble...

JJ-65 · #9 02-14-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

How do you get the belt on the brass if you use 25-06 brass?

I would personally stick with the brass made for the .240 myself.

LC

It's not the belt that is being formed, thats the only part of the case that stays at it's original diameter, it's the rest of the case thats being squeezed down in size.

At 80 bucks it pays for itself with the first 50 cases that are formed.

addictedfisherman · #10 02-14-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ-65

It's not the belt that is being formed, thats the only part of the case that stays at it's original diameter, it's the rest of the case thats being squeezed down in size.

At 80 bucks it pays for itself with the first 50 cases that are formed.

Where can I buy one?

JJ-65 · #11 02-14-2012, 03:26 PM

www.ch4d.com/

740-397-7214

Their site is massive, but very interesting. Be prepared for sticker shock if you check their press out.

You will need a stout press, a rcbs Rockchucker or better, and some Redding die wax.

addictedfisherman · #12 02-14-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ-65

www.ch4d.com/

740-397-7214

Their site is massive, but very interesting. Be prepared for sticker shock if you check their press out.

You will need a stout press, a rcbs Rockchucker or better, and some Redding die wax.

wow well, looks very interesting but i think I'd have to leave the wife.. for safety reasons

, if I came home with that press. lol

Lefty-Canuck · #13 02-14-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ-65

It's not the belt that is being formed, thats the only part of the case that stays at it's original diameter, it's the rest of the case thats being squeezed down in size.

At 80 bucks it pays for itself with the first 50 cases that are formed.

That was my fear....the belt is there for a reason. I will stick to factory brass. Neat little doo-dad though.

LC

whitetail Junkie · #14 02-14-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by addictedfisherman

wow well, looks very interesting but i think I'd have to leave the wife.. for safety reasons

, if I came home with that press. lol

She will really freak out if you bring home the Mark V instead of the Vanguard in the 240wby....

JJ-65 · #15 02-14-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

That was my fear....the belt is there for a reason. I will stick to factory brass. Neat little doo-dad though.

LC

Prolly best that you do as it seems this to be a bit to much for you to comprehend.

Lefty-Canuck · #16 02-14-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ-65

Prolly best that you do as it seems this to be a bit to much for you to comprehend.

UMmmm no need to be snarky...I comprehend it just fine....unless you are the guy who makes it. I wasn't slamming the idea I just would not use it myself is that ok with you?

If you buy a Ferarri you better be able to afford an oil change

LC

Lefty-Canuck · #17 02-14-2012, 06:25 PM

A bit more information that I found on the .240WBY for those interested....

The .240 Weatherby Magnum is a special cartridge used only in Weatherby rifles. This distinct Weatherby case is exclusive and it is not based on any of the other Weatherby rounds. It has the same diameter and comparable length to the .30-06. It does have the established Weatherby rounded double shoulder and a belted case with the length of 2.496 inches which is considerably shorter than the 2.8 inch case of the .244 H&H Magnum.

While favored by some varmint hunters, the .240 Weatherby Magnum is unpopular with some reloaders because the case cannot be formed out of any other brass. You either pay the money for regular Weatherby ammunition or purchase Weatherby cases which usually more costly than those most other cartridges. The .240 WM is still the fastest commercially created 6 mm cartridges.

The .240WBY headspaces off the belt much like the other "belted magnums" not having that belt can cause disasterous results if you are not careful.

Honestly if the brass price is an issue for you....have a 6mm/06 made and be done with it. Similar performance to a 240WBY with the economics of cheaper brass and brass availability.....the setup (dies, tooling) may cost you more up front though.

LC

Duramaximos · #18 02-14-2012, 07:08 PM

243AI is another option you might want to consider if looking for a more economical alternative.

wally338 · #19 02-14-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Duramaximos

243AI is another option you might want to consider if looking for a more economical alternative.

I have a 243AI and can tell you it does not come close to the 6m-06

Duramaximos · #20 02-14-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wally338

I have a 243AI and can tell you it does not come close to the 6m-06

I'm not doubting your opinion but would you mind ellaborating why you like it more? This might be useful to the OP.

wally338 · #21 02-14-2012, 07:32 PM

From my experience which is limited the 243AI is in the same ballpark as a standard 6mm Rem, which is just short of the 6m -06

Duramaximos · #22 02-14-2012, 08:23 PM

I think you're refering to a velocity advantage. Granted, I'm sure the 6-06 and 240 are faster than the 243AI, but I found several advantages that steered me to the 243AI when I was choosing a hot rod 6mm. YMMV.

Either way I think the 6mm's are very under-rated. I think the OP will be pleasantly surprised how productive the 6mm will be.

Good luck!

JJ-65 · #23 02-15-2012, 08:13 AM

[QUOTE=Lefty-Canuck;1303531]

The .240WBY headspaces off the belt much like the other "belted magnums" not having that belt can cause disasterous results if you are not careful.

Jebus Christ, your clueless. Tell me that you dont reload,

Do you own a caliper? if not , borrow one and take a measurement above the extractor grove on an 06 case, then measure the .240 case at the same location, if that dosent cause the bulb over your head to light up, nothing will.

Lefty-Canuck · #24 02-15-2012, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ-65

The .240WBY headspaces off the belt much like the other "belted magnums" not having that belt can cause disasterous results if you are not careful.

Jebus Christ, your clueless. Tell me that you dont reload,

Do you own a caliper? if not , borrow one and take a measurement above the extractor grove on an 06 case, then measure the .240 case at the same location, if that dosent cause the bulb over your head to light up, nothing will.

Wow thanks you are a polite little man to deal with...you do what you do and I will do what I do thank you.

Why is the belt there on factory ammo then? You do understand what headspacing is?

There are 2 schools of thought about doing this.....I have mine you have yours and I am ok with that....sorry this seems to bother you so much...

I also like to have the headstamp on the ammo I use match the firearms I shoot.....call me crazy

More for your reading pleasure on the topic....

http://www.reloadersnest.com/forum/t...?TOPIC_ID=3735

LC

Nait Hadya · #25 02-17-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by addictedfisherman

Where can I buy one?

there is the problem with the 240,it is rather rare to find one sitting on the gun rack,most likely requires a special order. certainly worth the weight though. found mine in a mark4 at the now defunct backcountry sports,red deer.

PoppaW · #26 02-17-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Wow thanks you are a polite little man to deal with...you do what you do and I will do what I do thank you.

Why is the belt there on factory ammo then? You do understand what headspacing is?

There are 2 schools of thought about doing this.....I have mine you have yours and I am ok with that....sorry this seems to bother you so much...

I also like to have the headstamp on the ammo I use match the firearms I shoot.....call me crazy

More for your reading pleasure on the topic....

http://www.reloadersnest.com/forum/t...?TOPIC_ID=3735

LC

My 338-06 uses 338-06 or 35 Whelen brass so I have no confusion when hunting near my FIL. He has a 30-06 and don't want him testing the pressure limits of his gun with a 338 going into it. If it's stamped 30-06 and is 338 I see problems. As for the forming of 240 brass from 25-06, I would do it if I had the dies to make it work. Resizing and forming/fire forming are things I do and am comfortable with. I have even shortened a case then shaved the rim thickness to see if I could make it work for another application. I was told it was impossible so I made one. A good thing about brass is its easy to reshape within reason. I would like to see a 240 made with the CH4D dies just to see it. And as for the belt, it is not needed if you headspace off the neck, and the 240 has lots of neck. I thought about the 6-06 and 240 but the 6-06 will be a more custom than the 240. Either a new barrel or a reamer at least. The new vangaurd in 240 would come home with me if I found one just so I could try it. But if I save my pennies I will find an ultra light MKV.