Tipping your guide

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

very well said...puts things into perspective and nice hearing it from someone who has walked many miles in these boots!

Argo too! Lol

[huntinstuff]

Ive guided people who go from one guided hunt to another, worldwide. Money is no object

I have also guided hunters who saved for years to do the hunt. Regular guys and gals who saved up to see a dream come true

Both types are as important to me as the other

But I smile just a bit bigger when the latter hops off the float plane onto my dock.

Especially if he /she has an older rifle...in 30-06.....

[Moosetalker]

Huntinstuff Hit the nail right on the head.

Guides are paid by the day some days get pretty long your not even hitting the old minimum wage never mind the new one. That said its the fun of the hunt not the money for me.

He just forgot to add some Outfitters have less than shall we say perfect equipment. For your own sanity add to the spices the following.

ATV
Good spare cots and good Thermarest pads. Tired hunters is a fail right at the get go.
Axes, Maul, Butchering implements. Many hunters expect to have access to a abattoir for cut and wrap. They fill up fast nowadays and less are doing it.
Most important your own chain saw in good working condition and kept where other guides/camp helpers wont snaffle it to separate antlers from skulls and other nefarious uses.

[Dean2]

https://www.africahunting.com/thread...ing-guide.183/


This is the thread I referred to above about tipping. 900 responses on it.

[58thecat]

guide tipping must be a sport.....kinda like cow tipping.....one rule though ya gotta be able to outrun your guide cuz when he gets up

[scruffy]

A friend of mine is now quite an old man but was a PH for many years and before that a game ranger in old Zimbabwe. Over the years he guided a few guys connected to the famous Mafia crime families of New York and such.

I visited him a few years ago in South Africa and he told me of a couple of these chaps who came over to Africa on a safari. Although the guides all had their own vehicles, the clients each bought new land rovers (or whatever they were?) and insisted that the guides drive them instead of their own vehicles.

At the end of the safari, the clients told their guides that their tips were the trucks.

I suspect that my friend was still a bit bothered that he was not their guide.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by scruffy

A friend of mine is now quite an old man but was a PH for many years and before that a game ranger in old Zimbabwe. Over the years he guided a few guys connected to the famous Mafia crime families of New York and such.

I visited him a few years ago in South Africa and he told me of a couple of these chaps who came over to Africa on a safari. Although the guides all had their own vehicles, the clients each bought new land rovers (or whatever they were?) and insisted that the guides drive them instead of their own vehicles.

At the end of the safari, the clients told their guides that their tips were the trucks.

I suspect that my friend was still a bit bothered that he was not their guide.

I've heard that story too! And that their taxidermist mentioned all of the trophies had been 'double-tapped' - two to the back of the head!

[Pioneer2]

When I went on a Yukon hunt in 94 a couple of the guides strongly hinted from day one to fourteen suggesting what they each expected for a tip.Turned me right off .The guy I had was afraid of grizzlies so when we spotted mine he made sure he lagged far behind during the stalk.Other clowns wanted to help shoot your bear.I told them shoot my bear it's yours no trophy fee from me.I don't need help just stay out of the way.A guide I worked for one fall in AB had not properties to hunt and wanted us to take these Americans on our hunting places.A lot of angry hunters at the end of the season.Crooked as a dogs hind leg.That was it for me guiding.

[7mmremmag]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

I should clarify my post

Guides get paid by the outfitter.

Tip are a bonus. Not everyone gets a bonus.

Allow me to give an example:

A fly in moose hunt usually means you will probably not meet the outfitter. You meet your guide. You are cooked for, tent cleaned, and all amenities are utilized for you by your guide. The guide is your best bet for success, notwithstanding the fact you must be open to listen to the guides advice, trust her/him, and observe what they do to assist you in getting your animal.

All of this is the guides job. The guide is being paid to do this, from the money you already paid for the hunt.

A tip is simply a bonus, based on your judgment. If you decide no tip, fine. That is completely your call.

Personally, I do a few things that I bring to.the hunters attention. Not for the purposes of acquiring a tip, but to show the hunter I care about his hunt and trophy. For example:

When I cape an animal, I bring the hunter over and show him the finished job. I show him the eyes, mouth and nose area of the cape and the horn bases. I show the hunter that there are no knife slips, no errors and tell him why I am showing him this. If he wants to sit and watch the process, I encourage it. That way, his taxidermist cannot blame me for an imperfect or poor mount due to any errors in caping. Most hunters appreciate this and are grateful in knowing that a poor mount doesnt result in a blame-game.

Again, guides are paid to do this anyhow. Its part of the job and a basic expectation....

I bring my own spices to cook with. I hate eating lousy food as much as my hunter does.

I tell the hunter how to dress for the day. I always default to Plan C, because A and B usually fail....lol

I guide my hunter like Id guide my sons. We are gonna do everything we can to get this animal, within the law of course.

Do I honestly expect a tip. No, I dont. Money isnt why I guide. I get to hunt. I dont shoot, but shooting isnt a thrill for me. And 9 days after this hunt, I get to do it all over again......

Getting your animal cannot be the basis for a successful hunt. It's hunting. If you want a guarantee, there are fenced properties that will cater to this. Does it feel better if you get your animal? Of course it does! Kinda why you're there in the first place. But it happens. Everyone hates it, but there are no guarantees. High probability, but no guarantee.....

Have I been tipped? Yes. Have I not been tipped? Yes. Do I care? No. Thats just me.

Go on your hunt, whatever it is, with high hopes but no definite plans. Trust your guide. Communicate with your guide. Be open. Be in reasonable shape. Be able to walk and be able to sit still. Enjoy wherever you are. Relax. Make a friend.

This is bang on.
Tip the guide himself when the hunt has concluded, if you see fit.
Just remember a good guide will be up hours before the hunter getting everything ready and awake hours after the hunter is asleep.
Theres no riches in guiding, and most guys are out there for the love of it.
I truly believe the outfitter leads by example with hard work, passion for the hunt and a great experience for the hunter.

From my guided hunts I have never tipped less than 10%.
Lets be honest who would work 15hrs a day for $225? You can work at McDonalds for that, and get a discount on your lunch.