Alberta, USA???

Marty S · #1 02-03-2023, 09:09 AM

https://www.westernstandard.news/

Poll at the bottom of page. Vote now!

I am vehemently opposed to joining the USA, this land and our hunting, fishing, trapping and properties would over-run and overwhelmed with Americans instantly

I am also vehemently opposed to Alberta staying in Canada. Pollivere might be a lill’ bandaid for a couple years, but long term it cannot possibly go well for Alberta to remain under Toronto’s permanent rule.

SEPARATE AT ALL COSTS

and hope that Saskatchewan and BC less Fraser Valley/Vancouver joins us.

Separate regardless!!!

1hogfarmer · #2 02-03-2023, 10:01 AM

Literally have to have civil war for that to happen.

HyperMOA · #3 02-03-2023, 10:06 AM

I would gladly vote yes, but don't see the poll on your link. There is a poll for Islamophobic foreign ministers.

Armorman · #4 02-03-2023, 10:21 AM

No. But I will vote for MORE provincial autonomy. More autonomy means less trudeau, Toronto, and quebec in our lives. Just imagine how Alberta would flourish and prosper without their boots on our neck.

elkhunter11 · #5 02-03-2023, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Armorman

No. But I will vote for MORE provincial autonomy. More autonomy means less trudeau, Toronto, and quebec in our lives. Just imagine how Alberta would flourish and prosper without their boots on our neck.

The liberals will never allow that to happen, it would interfere with the UN/WEF agenda.

EZM · #6 02-03-2023, 10:39 AM

Many Albertans who may be in favor of "joining the US" may have greater aspirations of gaining more control, independence and self determination with a focus on our provincial interests over national ones.

One of the potential problems is simple - joining a "bigger" country with "less population as a percentage" with less influence can exasperate the issue we already have ..... we become a smaller fish in a much bigger pond.

Marty S · #7 02-03-2023, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Armorman

No. But I will vote for MORE provincial autonomy. More autonomy means less trudeau, Toronto, and quebec in our lives. Just imagine how Alberta would flourish and prosper without their boots on our neck.

That sounds all fantasy-ish. The feds would pretend to give us autonomy and then squash us whenever desired in this new age of law/statute/charter re-interpretation.

I do hope all us separatists vote Danielle this time round and give her a chance to do something once her reign is no longer under threat, but if she doesnt deliver, then i will join a good wholesome separatist party.

Are there and good wholesome ones? Just need one… two will not work

Bigwoodsman · #8 02-03-2023, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty S

That sounds all fantasy-ish. The feds would pretend to give us autonomy and then squash us whenever desired in this new age of law/statute/charter re-interpretation.

I do hope all us separatists vote Danielle this time round and give her a chance to do something once her reign is no longer under threat, but if she doesnt deliver, then i will join a good wholesome separatist party.

Are there and good wholesome ones? Just need one… two will not work

Since we're all spitballing here, if Alberta is such a problem, ugly cousin to Canada how about Ottawa sells Alberta to the USA for a few trillion dollars. The USA grew their dominion by buying Louisiana and Alaska. Why not buy Alberta.

Seems to me it would be a win, win, win. Ottawa get rid of us as we seem to only be a liability to them. Alberta wins and we no longer have to worry about Ottawa coming down on us. The USA wins as they get more energy to develop closer to the lower 48 than Alaska.

BW

PartTimeHunter · #9 02-04-2023, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marty S

That sounds all fantasy-ish. The feds would pretend to give us autonomy and then squash us whenever desired in this new age of law/statute/charter re-interpretation.

I do hope all us separatists vote Danielle this time round and give her a chance to do something once her reign is no longer under threat, but if she doesnt deliver, then i will join a good wholesome separatist party.

Are there and good wholesome ones? Just need one… two will not work

Pretty much sums up my thoughts. What some people fail to realize is this is not something that just came up because of happy socks - yes he is pushing it further and accelerating it. I have thought this the way to go for a long time and know several like minded people. If Danielle disappoints then my vote goes for a credible separation party. I don't think Pierre will be able to do anything federally because of having to woo the eastern votes which will lead to a watering down of the agenda supporting the west.

Blazer 1 · #10 02-03-2023, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty S

https://www.westernstandard.news/

Poll at the bottom of page. Vote now!

I am vehemently opposed to joining the USA, this land and our hunting, fishing, trapping and properties would over-run and overwhelmed with Americans instantly

I am also vehemently opposed to Alberta staying in Canada. Pollivere might be a lill’ bandaid for a couple years, but long term it cannot possibly go well for Alberta to remain under Toronto’s permanent rule.

SEPARATE AT ALL COSTS

and hope that Saskatchewan and BC less Fraser Valley/Vancouver joins us.

Separate regardless!!!

I agree 100% separation is our only chance! Joining the us would just devastate our wildlife... there's already to many americans coming here every hunting season!

fordtruckin · #11 02-03-2023, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazer 1

I agree 100% separation is our only chance! Joining the us would just devastate our wildlife... there's already to many americans coming here every hunting season!

And just as many Canadians heading south to hunt the USA.

Bigwoodsman · #12 02-03-2023, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fordtruckin

And just as many Canadians heading south to hunt the USA.

Maybe we could actually get some decent fish and wildlife management out of the deal as well.

BW

does it ALL outdoors · #13 02-07-2023, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazer 1

I agree 100% separation is our only chance! Joining the us would just devastate our wildlife... there's already to many americans coming here every hunting season!

That's the only downside I can see so far. My taxes would go down, many pipelines would be built, many, many over reaching energy regulations would be lifted, we would get better Firearm protection and rights.

Politically we are both broken but at least theirs isn't a banana republic that a small group (2 Provinces) get to decide the political landscape like us.

Not saying I would sign off on it tomorrow but I think I would need to be talked out f it. All I see is benefits, besides the hunting likely to be over run and even more tourists in the summer but I avoid those hotspots to begin with.

JohninAB · #14 02-07-2023, 02:45 AM

Why would our wildlife be devastated? My understanding is Alberta would still set quotas for non-resident hunters like we do now and every state does.

Lot more pluses to joining US than negatives that I can see right now.

elkhunter11 · #15 02-07-2023, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JohninAB

Why would our wildlife be devastated? My understanding is Alberta would still set quotas for non-resident hunters like we do now and every state does.

Lot more pluses to joining US than negatives that I can see right now.

Exactly! We have quotas now, and why would that change? So I don't see any change as far as our big game hunting.

Dewey Cox · #16 02-07-2023, 07:57 AM

I'm pretty sure each state makes their own wildlife regs.

MountainTi · #17 02-07-2023, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Exactly! We have quotas now, and why would that change? So I don't see any change as far as our big game hunting.

If anything it will improve as long as some of the quality game management practices the US implements and uses rubs off on Alberta

Savage Bacon · #18 02-03-2023, 02:25 PM

I'm not allowed in the US does this mean I'd have to move?

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tirebob · #19 02-03-2023, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Bacon

I'm not allowed in the US does this mean I'd have to move?

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Sooooo... Mis-spent youth too hey? Busted with weed or bar fight? Inquiring minds want to know!

Seriously though... I think you would be good at that point. I think they have to take 'em all if something like this were to ever happen.

hayseed · #20 02-03-2023, 02:58 PM

Anyone remember when Trudope failed to mention Alberta in his Canada day speech??

Really shows his true colours and what he thinks of Albertans. How does a leader of a nation do that other than intentionally??

What an idiot..

wwbirds · #21 02-03-2023, 04:09 PM

BTW I got a C+ for being "unpatriotic" according to the people who ran things in Ontario school. At the time I wanted to sell all of Canada for 1 million dollars to each man woman and child and with the resources in Canada the USA would have jumped at it. Guess the short crew cut chinese teacher thought we were all going to remain hippies. Even then I think he was a socialist leaning teacher also taught math and told me my mind was like a sieve all the good stuff went through and the garbage stayed. Still remember his name and often wondered if he had any idea I became an accountant despite his efforts. He didn't show up for the reunion 25 years later in 1996 and no one there could say what happened to him.

WolfmanAB · #22 02-03-2023, 09:15 PM

As it stands Alberta is nothing more than a colony for the east. They come here when times good, and take off when times go to hell. Some stay, voting in NDP and changing this province into the place they retreated from.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty S

https://www.westernstandard.news/

Poll at the bottom of page. Vote now!

I am vehemently opposed to joining the USA, this land and our hunting, fishing, trapping and properties would over-run and overwhelmed with Americans instantly

I am also vehemently opposed to Alberta staying in Canada. Pollivere might be a lill’ bandaid for a couple years, but long term it cannot possibly go well for Alberta to remain under Toronto’s permanent rule.

SEPARATE AT ALL COSTS

and hope that Saskatchewan and BC less Fraser Valley/Vancouver joins us.

Separate regardless!!!

elkhunter11 · #23 02-03-2023, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfmanAB

As it stands Alberta is nothing more than a colony for the east. They come here when times good, and take off when times go to hell. Some stay, voting in NDP and changing this province into the place they retreated from.

Isn't that odd, that so many immigrants vote for the type of government most similar to the one that they escaped from.

WolfmanAB · #24 02-04-2023, 01:00 PM

I'd change that since being "discriminating" is back into vogue again. You'd have to be here a minimum number of years before the privilege of voting is bestowed upon you. Let's say 15 years minimum. Other restrictions also. And I'm aware they want toddlers to start voting now to cheapen the process and make it into a farcical gong show. To that end is how democracy inevitably crashes and burns.

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Isn't that odd, that so many immigrants vote for the type of government most similar to the one that they escaped from.

58thecat · #25 02-05-2023, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty S

https://www.westernstandard.news/

Poll at the bottom of page. Vote now!

I am vehemently opposed to joining the USA, this land and our hunting, fishing, trapping and properties would over-run and overwhelmed with Americans instantly

I am also vehemently opposed to Alberta staying in Canada. Pollivere might be a lill’ bandaid for a couple years, but long term it cannot possibly go well for Alberta to remain under Toronto’s permanent rule.

SEPARATE AT ALL COSTS

and hope that Saskatchewan and BC less Fraser Valley/Vancouver joins us.

Separate regardless!!!

Separate at all costs

Pekan · #26 02-07-2023, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty S

https://www.westernstandard.news/

Poll at the bottom of page. Vote now!

I am vehemently opposed to joining the USA, this land and our hunting, fishing, trapping and properties would over-run and overwhelmed with Americans instantly

I am also vehemently opposed to Alberta staying in Canada. Pollivere might be a lill’ bandaid for a couple years, but long term it cannot possibly go well for Alberta to remain under Toronto’s permanent rule.

SEPARATE AT ALL COSTS

and hope that Saskatchewan and BC less Fraser Valley/Vancouver joins us.

Separate regardless!!!

Neither will happen in our lifetimes.
I'd be happy with AB, USA. We'd have more liberties than we do now. But we'd probably get a bunch of wacko back to the landers moving up, until it hit -40 then they'd all go back south!