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03-11-2023, 12:11 PM
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So what's a Special Rapporteur
A recent arcticle by Marco Navarro-Génie of the Haultain Research Institute published online.
‘Special Rapporteur’ Plan Amounts to Yet More Smoke and Mirrors
Commentary
If you had never heard of a special rapporteur before last week, you might be forgiven. There has never been such a position in Canadian government departments, federal or provincial. There are plenty of special rapporteurs at the United Nations, however, but even there it’s an obscure title.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced his intention to name a “special rapporteur” to look into Beijing’s repeated interference with Canadian federal elections. The mandate for the proposed rapporteur will likely not include investigating the prime minister for dragging his feet on the file.
Special rapporteur is a title typically given to independent human rights activists, which the U.N. considers to be “experts” in either specific fields of human rights or in given geographic areas. For example, there are special rapporteurs for various human rights themes (like the independence of judges and lawyers) and there are special rapporteurs for Latin American or African states. Their work is to document, “report,” and denounce rights violations.
Since the mid-1980s, the U.N. Human Rights Council appoints special rapporteurs, but they are not U.N. or government employees. They are civilians, and they do not get paid.
Anyone who knows the U.N. will tell you that the organization has a terrible record protecting human rights. Rapporteurs report as they are supposed to do, often at great personal risk, but their work is inconsequential to human rights violators.
Reported rights violators never admit to their violations, nor change their ways. And the worse their rights transgressions, the less these violators care about reports that so few read.
So, Justin Trudeau wanting a “special rapporteur” working for him makes manipulative sense for several reasons. First, nothing contemplates such a position in the traditions of this country so he will fashion it however he sees fit.
Two, there are no special rapporteurs for intelligence services anywhere. In fact, U.N. special rapporteurs are at odds with intelligence services, military, or armed groups who usually obliterate rights in the name of national security, often invoking fake emergencies.
Lastly, but most importantly, there are no special rapporteurs appointed by governments. In their case, “independent” does not only mean that rapporteurs do not work for or are at arms-length from government. Rapporteurs are independent because the perpetrators of human rights violations do not get to choose them; they are never appointed by governments. Not surprisingly Cuba, for instance, refuses rapporteurs documenting rights violations on its soil.
It is not that there is a flaw in Trudeau’s proposal. His choice is a deliberate obfuscation. In keeping with natural justice, one ought not choose a special individual—much less create a new position outside of the existing investigating officers in law enforcement—to investigate one’s misdeeds. It is illegitimate for the Liberal government to choose the person who will investigate its potential links to the misdeeds.
It’s not difficult to see why Justin Trudeau is creating something untethered in Canadian law or tradition. He likely knows well that there are libraries of reports at the United Nations, written by special rapporteurs denouncing gruesome human rights violations. Yet, the perpetrators of such crimes remain in place, untouched in power, often sitting in U.N. committees in review of their own crimes. Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran, and Cuba, for example, often rotate into the U.N. Human Rights Council even though their regimes are among the most blatant violators of human and democratic rights against anyone who opposes their corrupt rule.
U.N. special rapporteurs report, and the U.N. does next to nothing when it is not in the nature of the violators to change or to be moved by accusations.
The proposed creation of a government-appointed rapporteur in Canada is absurd. Canadians should demand a public inquiry instead and ditch the nonsense idea of a special rapporteur for election law violations at the hands of domestic MPs in possible collusion with hostile foreign states.
The country’s institutions have all the tools to investigate the issues. There’s no need to make up new ones.
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03-11-2023, 12:14 PM
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It’s a made up title given to a person who used to head up your families foundation to “investigate “ you about money given to that foundation and other types of interference.
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03-11-2023, 12:17 PM
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Rapporteur:
In the POS's world, it's french for very good lier!!
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03-11-2023, 12:18 PM
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A Liberal "Yes" Man / Woman / Peoplekind. Someone who already knows the outcome of the investigation, "nothing to see here folks, move along".
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03-11-2023, 02:59 PM
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Let’s just call it as it is. Things got too hot for turdy boy, he needed to appear like he was doing something to cool the waters which isn’t good enough. There needs to be a PUBLIC investigation. Pronto.
Here’s how this plays out (if he gets his way). It’ll take a year to find a lieberal stooge to figure out if a public investigation is needed. They’ll say it takes further time to investigate, and there will be an election. By this time sockboy is hoping that the public has moved on. Meanwhile, the mystery whistleblower is prosecuted/punished to the fullest extent and made an example of.
PP needs to keep the heat on.
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03-11-2023, 03:06 PM
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UN dictators will be impressed with this trick
What else was he supposed to do?
With his pet Lucki stepping down, he can't be certain the RCMP can be trusted to carry on a fair investigation.
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03-11-2023, 03:24 PM
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Perfect time to set up an actual ethics committee to keep EVERYONE in line. Preferably from another country that simply reads the data and calls it as it is. It's pretty black and white this time. Just need an independent investigator to confirm or deny. Then do the right thing and apologize for the damage and step down. Enough of this garbage already. If it means getting thrown in jail like you or me would then so be it. These politicians putting themselves in a class above their electorate is wrong. This poor country is gonna get third world soon.
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03-11-2023, 04:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by urban rednek
With his pet Lucki stepping down, he can't be certain the RCMP can be trusted to carry on a fair investigation.
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K, that's funny!!
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03-11-2023, 04:26 PM
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What else was he supposed to do?
With his pet Lucki stepping down, he can't be certain the RCMP can be trusted to carry on a fair investigation.
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He needs to appoint another stooge to make certain that he and his party are not investigated.
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03-11-2023, 05:08 PM
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03-11-2023, 05:23 PM
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It sure sounds pretentious, I wonder who came up with that idea....to only be a little bird on the wall where the inner circle dreams up these things.
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03-11-2023, 05:39 PM
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It makes fools out of all Canadian law enforcement. Laws are being broken and no one is investigating. Who should be on the case?
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03-11-2023, 05:57 PM
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It makes fools out of all Canadian law enforcement. Laws are being broken and no one is investigating. Who should be on the case?
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That was the plan when Trudeau appointed a stooge to run the RCMP.
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03-11-2023, 08:27 PM
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If the bloody liberal party appoints someone to investigate their own corruption again I'm done with this country.
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03-11-2023, 09:15 PM
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only in canada can the criminal pick his own person to investigate him. this country needs an overhaul.
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03-11-2023, 09:23 PM
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03-12-2023, 07:41 AM
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That was the plan when Trudeau appointed a stooge to run the RCMP.
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That one is done the middle of this Month. Shouldn't be too hard for him to find another useful idiot!!
I would guess the peoplekind that will be considered won't be white males.
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03-12-2023, 09:35 AM
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It could get very interesting. The person that leaked the info must believe it is very wrong (or why leak it). Maybe another release. Maybe members involved resign. What laws are broken and will they be punished.
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03-12-2023, 09:41 AM
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That one is done the middle of this Month. Shouldn't be too hard for him to find another useful idiot!!
I would guess the peoplekind that will be considered won't be white males.
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03-12-2023, 09:48 AM
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Is that French for “new house”?
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03-12-2023, 10:03 AM
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03-12-2023, 10:07 AM
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A Liberal "Yes" Man / Woman / Peoplekind. Someone who already knows the outcome of the investigation, "nothing to see here folks, move along".
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Another layer of teflon.....
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03-12-2023, 10:12 AM
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Just look at some world news about some PM's being investigated and charged with corruption and cover ups. Is our PM any different than those. Yes we need an independent non PM appointed investigation. Does he abuse our laws and Constitution?
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03-12-2023, 10:27 AM
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I still find it hard to believe that Trudeau has been re-elected twice since his first term in office. During his first term, Good 'Ol Black Face exposed himself to Canadians to what he really is with the JWR scandal, SNC- Lavalin scandal, and more. So what happens? He gets re-elected not once, but twice. Canadian voters are morons, and deserve all this. And the sad part is there are still Liberal supporters out there, enough to make the outcome of the next election still uncertain.
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03-12-2023, 10:33 AM
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I still find it hard to believe that Trudeau has been re-elected twice since his first term in office. During his first term, Good 'Ol Black Face exposed himself to Canadians to what he really is with the JWR scandal, SNC- Lavalin scandal, and more. So what happens? He gets re-elected not once, but twice. Canadian voters are morons, and deserve all this. And the sad part is there are still Liberal supporters out there, enough to make the outcome of the next election still uncertain.
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Until they can't afford to pay rent, food and utilities, those liberal supporters will blindly vote for him. And even then, they will likely blame Harper, and ask for handouts. And the ndp are no better, for supporting Trudeau.
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03-12-2023, 12:27 PM
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It sure sounds pretentious, I wonder who came up with that idea....to only be a little bird on the wall where the inner circle dreams up these things.
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03-12-2023, 12:38 PM
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It could get very interesting. The person that leaked the info must believe it is very wrong (or why leak it). Maybe another release. Maybe members involved resign. What laws are broken and will they be punished.
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How about the idea that operators in the US intelligence arena are sick and tired of the Liberal's playing softball with China while the US is playing hardball and helped orchestrate this leak??
They will never find the actuall person who leaked this information, and if they did they would not reveal that information, it would be to much of an embarrassment. Such findings would be held under "National Security" wrapper.
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03-16-2023, 12:46 PM
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What a rapporteur is:
https://apple.news/A-eoJGjDSSvmiWgeL9JR7OA
A MEMBER OR THE TRUDEAU FOUNDATION
That’s right folks, the same one funded by China. You can’t make this up
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03-16-2023, 12:51 PM
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Trudeau a few years ago described him as a long time family friend. Can you imagine breaking the rules and appointing a family friend to investigate?
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03-16-2023, 12:56 PM
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Trudeau a few years ago described him as a long time family friend. Can you imagine breaking the rules and appointing a family friend to investigate?
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Exactly, and the fact that Harper appointed David Johnstone to the position of GG in 2010 gives the turd a chance to blame all of this on Harper. Is his pea brain sized mind it all makes sense!
#public inquiry
https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/colu...b-300dea8d70d8
If this news article is true then the turd must be tried for treason.
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