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03-16-2023, 11:17 PM
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Poilievre Says Hard Work Should Pay Off
Pierre Poilievre had a press conference in Ottawa a few days ago and hit the nail on the head with respect to what’s happened to this Country.
Young people can not afford housing in many of Canada’s biggest cities. They can’t pay off their student loans as Trudeau stacks tax upon tax. Their opportunities are limited as the bloated Liberal Government gatekeepers block mines, and energy projects. All of which amounts to young people becoming working class poor.
The Canada I grew up in gave you the opportunity to get ahead if you worked hard. Sadly that dream has been crushed and turned into a nightmare by Justin Trudeau and his bureaucratic army.
It has become clear to me that a vote for Poilievre, is a vote to feel Canadian again.
https://youtu.be/iDR4z2V1PLM
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03-17-2023, 12:11 AM
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Jeezuz raab, you are hillarious! There were times when you were telling everyone Stephen Harper had to go. Vote NDP. You were even standing up for our current village idiot running this disgrace of a country. Then I certainly remember you specifically say you wished we had Harper back.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/searc...rchid=18992682
That’s just a little bit if anyone cares to look… I can find more if you like?
You have been all over the map for many years. I can bring up more if you like.
I would like to see PP voted in as well. But man your history and opinions on politics is absolutely hilarious! There are even posts with you saying Liberals didn’t want to disarm anyone. Every year it just gets better.
Maybe now you’re somewhat on the right track? Possibly?
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03-17-2023, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by crazy_davey
Jeezuz raab, you are hillarious! There were times when you were telling everyone Stephen Harper had to go. Vote NDP. You were even standing up for our current village idiot running this disgrace of a country. Then I certainly remember you specifically say you wished we had Harper back.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/searc...rchid=18992682
That’s just a little bit if anyone cares to look… I can find more if you like?
You have been all over the map for many years. I can bring up more if you like.
I would like to see PP voted in as well. But man your history and opinions on politics is absolutely hilarious! There are even posts with you saying Liberals didn’t want to disarm anyone. Every year it just gets better.
Maybe now you’re somewhat on the right track? Possibly?
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Come on now, you have witnessed a young naive boy turn into a man right before you. Don’t admonish him for it; congratulate him for finally arriving.
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03-17-2023, 12:39 AM
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Exactly what does Pierre know about hard work? He's never done a day of it in hi entire life. He's a career politician who gotten bloated at the trough a few too many times to be talking about hard work like he's one of us.
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03-17-2023, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
Come on now, you have witnessed a young naive boy turn into a man right before you. Don’t admonish him for it; congratulate him for finally arriving.
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Someone said ‘If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’
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03-17-2023, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
Come on now, you have witnessed a young naive boy turn into a man right before you. Don’t admonish him for it; congratulate him for finally arriving.
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I know you remember his flip flopping over the years, he’s kind of like a dying fish laying on the bank. Anyone can see it if you look at his post history.
Too bad most of the people who were trying to explain things to help him understand the politics at the time are now banned and even a handful of them gone to better places.
Maybe he is growing up and seeing things clearly? Not sure, he sure seems to be sucked into conspiracy and YouTube lately. I don’t disagree with all of what he posts, but some is obviously a YouTube education.
The 7-10 years of watching this guys politics flip flop has been pretty entertaining I guess…
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03-17-2023, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by crazy_davey
Jeezuz raab, you are hillarious! There were times when you were telling everyone Stephen Harper had to go. Vote NDP. You were even standing up for our current village idiot running this disgrace of a country. Then I certainly remember you specifically say you wished we had Harper back.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/searc...rchid=18992682
That’s just a little bit if anyone cares to look… I can find more if you like?
You have been all over the map for many years. I can bring up more if you like.
I would like to see PP voted in as well. But man your history and opinions on politics is absolutely hilarious! There are even posts with you saying Liberals didn’t want to disarm anyone. Every year it just gets better.
Maybe now you’re somewhat on the right track? Possibly?
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Well I used to believe there were minor differences between the Cons and Libs. Trudeau ran on minimal deficits, no change to gun laws, lower taxes and we had Harper for 10 years IIRC. The only governments I had ever experienced as an adult were the Chrétien/Martin Liberals, and the Harper Conservatives. Paul Martin would now be considered a Conservative IMO.
I could care less who I voted for but I believe Politicians should be changed often, and I’m an advocate of term limits. Which was my argument at the time against Harper. It should be noted I voted for Harper 3 times prior.
I never voted NDP, and if there are any post supporting them it was prior to me reading their constitution. I voted Wildrose that election after watching Brian Jean take a chainsaw to a giant credit card and say he’s going to curb bloated government spending and cut taxes. It also made sense to me that the Wildrose who stayed were never corrupted and wouldn’t take the bribe to cross the floor.
I don’t fit neatly into any of the major political parties currently in Canada. My view on politics has been largely influenced by Hayek, Friedman, Sowell, Erhard, Eucken, and Williams. I’m a big proponent of free markets, limited government, and limited regulation.
That said the Trudeau Liberals have played their hand. They’re no longer center left, they’re as left as you can go, corrupt and a threat to our country. I have no choice but to back Pierre, because he’s the only one who’s not a big government socialist and no Max doesn’t count. No disrespect to the PPC.
I also feel partially responsible for this mess, so working to clean it up.
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03-17-2023, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by HyperMOA
Come on now, you have witnessed a young naive boy turn into a man right before you. Don’t admonish him for it; congratulate him for finally arriving.
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I see it as a guy who has a broken compass. His true north was east, west, and south and he wouldn’t accept help with direction. He wanted to follow his broken compass.
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03-17-2023, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by crazy_davey
I know you remember his flip flopping over the years, he’s kind of like a dying fish laying on the bank. Anyone can see it if you look at his post history.
Too bad most of the people who were trying to explain things to help him understand the politics at the time are now banned and even a handful of them gone to better places.
Maybe he is growing up and seeing things clearly? Not sure, he sure seems to be sucked into conspiracy and YouTube lately. I don’t disagree with all of what he posts, but some is obviously a YouTube education.
The 7-10 years of watching this guys politics flip flop has been pretty entertaining I guess…
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The whole Free To Choose series by Friedman is on YouTube. Along with many of his lectures. Apparently he’s radicalizing the youth. Although I’m not that young anymore.
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“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.” John Stuart Mill
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03-17-2023, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by raab
Well I used to believe there were minor differences between the Cons and Libs. Trudeau ran on minimal deficits, no change to gun laws, lower taxes and we had Harper for 10 years IIRC. The only governments I had ever experienced as an adult were the Chrétien/Martin Liberals, and the Harper Conservatives. Paul Martin would now be considered a Conservative IMO.
I could care less who I voted for but I believe Politicians should be changed often, and I’m an advocate of term limits. Which was my argument at the time against Harper. It should be noted I voted for Harper 3 times prior.
I never voted NDP, and if there are any post supporting them it was prior to me reading their constitution. I voted Wildrose that election after watching Brian Jean take a chainsaw to a giant credit card and say he’s going to curb bloated government spending and cut taxes. It also made sense to me that the Wildrose who stayed were never corrupted and wouldn’t take the bribe to cross the floor.
I don’t fit neatly into any of the major political parties currently in Canada. My view on politics has been largely influenced by Hayek, Friedman, Sowell, Erhard, Eucken, and Williams. I’m a big proponent of free markets, limited government, and limited regulation.
That said the Trudeau Liberals have played their hand. They’re no longer center left, they’re as left as you can go, corrupt and a threat to our country. I have no choice but to back Pierre, because he’s the only one who’s not a big government socialist and no Max doesn’t count. No disrespect to the PPC.
I also feel partially responsible for this mess, so working to clean it up.
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It takes a big man to admit their mistakes and I respect you for that. We need more like you to help clean up the mess. I’ve seen others recently turn a leaf here too, it’s just taking a while and glad people are finally waking up. Let’s hope those in Toronto are starting to get it (as doubtful as that sounds). Nothing in this world is free.
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03-17-2023, 07:50 AM
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Exactly what does Pierre know about hard work? He's never done a day of it in hi entire life. He's a career politician who gotten bloated at the trough a few too many times to be talking about hard work like he's one of us.
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There is that. Lol.
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03-17-2023, 07:58 AM
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The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.
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03-17-2023, 08:10 AM
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Exactly what does Pierre know about hard work? He's never done a day of it in hi entire life. He's a career politician who gotten bloated at the trough a few too many times to be talking about hard work like he's one of us.
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Read a little bit about him. No he didn’t work a construction job to pay for his political career but he is not a trust fund baby with a silver spoon in his mouth.
He does have legitimate accomplishments that qualify him.
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03-17-2023, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by crazy_davey
Jeezuz raab, you are hillarious! There were times when you were telling everyone Stephen Harper had to go. Vote NDP. You were even standing up for our current village idiot running this disgrace of a country. Then I certainly remember you specifically say you wished we had Harper back.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/searc...rchid=18992682
That’s just a little bit if anyone cares to look… I can find more if you like?
You have been all over the map for many years. I can bring up more if you like.
I would like to see PP voted in as well. But man your history and opinions on politics is absolutely hilarious! There are even posts with you saying Liberals didn’t want to disarm anyone. Every year it just gets better.
Maybe now you’re somewhat on the right track? Possibly?
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Really will has finally done on raab just like everyone else.
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03-17-2023, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by heretohunt
Read a little bit about him. No he didn’t work a construction job to pay for his political career but he is not a trust fund baby with a silver spoon in his mouth.
He does have legitimate accomplishments that qualify him.
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My children could run the country better than trudolt. Pierre is a massive leap forward.
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Read a little bit about him. No he didn’t work a construction job to pay for his political career but he is not a trust fund baby with a silver spoon in his mouth.
He does have legitimate accomplishments that qualify him.
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Exactly! Regardless of his choice of career, he made his own money, he didn't inherit it like Trudeau.
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03-17-2023, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by brslk
Exactly what does Pierre know about hard work? He's never done a day of it in hi entire life. He's a career politician who gotten bloated at the trough a few too many times to be talking about hard work like he's one of us.
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Just because someone hasn’t worked in the trades or been a farmer doesn’t mean they didn’t work hard in their chosen path.
On the other hand just because a person works in the trades or farms , doesn’t mean he is a hard worker.
There are floaters in every walk of life. I don’t think Polievre is one.
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03-17-2023, 09:39 AM
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My children could run the country better than trudolt. Pierre is a massive leap forward.
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Your children, could also recognize the difference between right and wrong. You've taught them this life long skill.
Maggie and Pierre, did not teach the turd this skill. They taught him cover ups and scandals and how to dodge them.
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Your children, could also recognize the difference between right and wrong. You've taught them this life long skill.
Maggie and Pierre, did not teach the turd this skill. They taught him cover ups and scandals and how to dodge them.
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Trudeau mastered in arrogance and corruption, and apparently, he had very good teachers.
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Hard work does still pay off, just not as readily as it use to.
Go Pierre!
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Originally Posted by crazy_davey
Jeezuz raab, you are hillarious! There were times when you were telling everyone Stephen Harper had to go. Vote NDP. You were even standing up for our current village idiot running this disgrace of a country. Then I certainly remember you specifically say you wished we had Harper back.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/searc...rchid=18992682
That’s just a little bit if anyone cares to look… I can find more if you like?
You have been all over the map for many years. I can bring up more if you like.
I would like to see PP voted in as well. But man your history and opinions on politics is absolutely hilarious! There are even posts with you saying Liberals didn’t want to disarm anyone. Every year it just gets better.
Maybe now you’re somewhat on the right track? Possibly?
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Read my sig line. lol. I believe I had a go-round or two with young Raab Version1. Now he's all growed up & thinking for himself he's starting to come around.
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03-17-2023, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jungleboy
Just because someone hasn’t worked in the trades or been a farmer doesn’t mean they didn’t work hard in their chosen path.
On the other hand just because a person works in the trades or farms , doesn’t mean he is a hard worker.
There are floaters in every walk of life. I don’t think Polievre is one.
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True dat. We have a couple local pols work like crazy, call them anytime, they'll answer. They are constantly trying to attract business, keep the crazies in line, and make our County good. Our MP is also a worker, he visits one heck of a lot of rural businesses & homes when he's not in Ottawa.
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If you're not a Liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a Conservative when you're old, you have no brain. Winston Churchill
You can, you should, & if you're brave enough to start, you will. Stephen King
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03-17-2023, 09:41 PM
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Exactly what does Pierre know about hard work? He's never done a day of it in hi entire life. He's a career politician who gotten bloated at the trough a few too many times to be talking about hard work like he's one of us.
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I have never been a cardiac surgeon, but I do see the value in them.
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Yep raab I thought you were a gonner but welcome to the right side.
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Crickets is all I hear from the CPC and UPC regarding the arrest of peaceful Christian protestors at a drag event in a public library. That is adult stuff that belongs in a strip club. Have voiced my displeasure with My UPC and CPC riding.
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