alberta beef producers proposing pay to play

[flyguyd]

Originally Posted by expmler

I would rather pay that fee to a land owner that provides me access and opportunity.

Would you really ? You have talked about hunters paying $50 per elk, seems reasonable, now fast forward a little. The neighbor wants his piece of the pie and so do all the other neighbors. Now we just eliminated some access from a few good responsible hunters that always hunted there, because they wont pay . The new guy might have deeper pockets but shallower ethics. The landowner with the most elk and best habitat bumps his price to $200, supply and demand Pretty soon its a grand per animal,does that still seem reasonable, Safeway seems like a more viable option at this point. Where does it all end. Imo with very few deep pocketed guys taking a few animals. Not even enough to to remotely affect the population, because the others have been priced out. Now you are back to the same old problems with the elk with no way to fix it. I guess you could just go back to allowing permission to responsible hunters for free If there was any left who would come.

[expmler]

Originally Posted by flyguyd

Would you really ? You have talked about hunters paying $50 per elk, seems reasonable, now fast forward a little. The neighbor wants his piece of the pie and so do all the other neighbors. Now we just eliminated some access from a few good responsible hunters that always hunted there, because they wont pay . The new guy might have deeper pockets but shallower ethics. The landowner with the most elk and best habitat bumps his price to $200, supply and demand Pretty soon its a grand per animal,does that still seem reasonable, Safeway seems like a more viable option at this point. Where does it all end. Imo with very few deep pocketed guys taking a few animals. Not even enough to to remotely affect the population, because the others have been priced out. Now you are back to the same old problems with the elk with no way to fix it. I guess you could just go back to allowing permission to responsible hunters for free If there was any left who would come.

I think if the gov't would make it legal they could also put a cap on the fee.

[flyguyd]

Originally Posted by expmler

I think if the gov't would make it legal they could also put a cap on the fee.

Then how much longer would it be before they started lobbying to remove the cap. Allow landowners to sell their wares to whatever the market will bear. Its kinda like the grain market. Would you really be happy with $10 when you might be able to get $100, i think not. Like i said ,where will it end

[expmler]

Originally Posted by flyguyd

Then how much longer would it be before they started lobbying to remove the cap. Allow landowners to sell their wares to whatever the market will bear. Its kinda like the grain market. Would you really be happy with $10 when you might be able to get $100, i think not. Like i said ,where will it end

OK scrap that. Did you see my other proposal? what do you think of that one?

[bison]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Badger

How much of my paycheck goes to feeding farm subsidies already?

What farm subsidies??
I haven't gotten a buck in farm subsidy in 18 years.

But somehow we farmers are forced to feed the ever increasing numbers of the queens wildlife for free and can't even take a single one as compensation without having to buy a tag like everyone else.

I largely side with Expmler.

[norwestalta]

Originally Posted by bison

What farm subsidies??
I haven't gotten a buck in farm subsidy in 18 years.

But somehow we farmers are forced to feed the ever increasing numbers of the queens wildlife for free and can't even take a single one as compensation without having to buy a tag like everyone else.

I largely side with Expmler.

You bet.

[norwestalta]

Originally Posted by flyguyd

Then how much longer would it be before they started lobbying to remove the cap. Allow landowners to sell their wares to whatever the market will bear. Its kinda like the grain market. Would you really be happy with $10 when you might be able to get $100, i think not. Like i said ,where will it end

It could happen no doubt but me, myself and I won't compromise my values for a buck. If I like you you're welcome access if I don't then your not welcome.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Some farmers in Alberta already skirt this issue...charging a "parking fee" or "game recovery fee" ... I am sure some folks here have taken these farmers up on it....

LC