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Old 03-17-2011, 12:21 PM
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Is the term 'Fish cop' derogatory?
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:22 PM
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Im sure they like it better than some things they have been called or reffered to as!!

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Old 03-17-2011, 12:25 PM
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Duck Dick (as in detective) isn't likely any better
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:26 PM
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Im sure they like it better than some things they have been called or reffered to as!!

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Ha! Fair enough

I think if I was a hunter I'd see them more as 'fish and wildlife' but since I only see them in the context of fishing, I always think 'fish cop' though I do make an effort to try to use the 'fish and wildlife' title
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:26 PM
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I don't think it's that bad, but I still always say F&W.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:27 PM
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There's some people that get thier nose out of joint when a person uses the term Game Warden because it's technically not correct.

I personally don't feel fish cop is derrogatory. It's a slang, but not a big deal to me.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:39 PM
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What are the SRD guys actually really called? I know the parks guys that do the job are Conservation Officers, but SRD?
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:45 PM
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If you don't know what to call them, just call them Hello. Pretend they all have the same name.

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Old 03-17-2011, 12:46 PM
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What are the SRD guys actually really called? I know the parks guys that do the job are Conservation Officers, but SRD?
SRD is (Sustainable Resource Development) Its the government department . It consists of forestry , fish and wildlife and I think parks .

Fish and wildlife officers - Patrol everywhere including provincial parks .
Conservation officers - Patrol provincial parks .

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Old 03-17-2011, 01:04 PM
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face to face, i call them Mister. in conversation with other fisherman i use "fish cops" with other hunters "fur & feathers" never had a problem, with the exception of the odd young guy trying to earn his stripes. like anything be respectful and you'll be shown respect.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:21 PM
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If I'm referring to them to a buddy then I use the term Fish Cop or Fish & Feathers. If I'm talking to a Fish & Wildlife Officer that is the term that I use. I don't consider referring to someone as a Fish Cop derogatory but to call them that when talking to them is impolite/disrespectful IMO.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:52 PM
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Those guys .... and most law officials ......are pretty thick skinned !

Your not going to hurt their feelings much regardless of what you call them.
They've heard it all from Fish Cops to Wood Narcs and everything in between. Most times they are just as excited as you are that someone is
fishing or hunting . The rules are pretty clear and written for everyone to see so keep your nose clean and any time you run into them , it should all be good. They can usually tell you where the fish are biting etc.
I appreciate the Bull Crap they have to put up with in order to keep my
fishin habits clean and under control. Like most enforcement jobs... its a thankless one and the good that they do is often hidden from site but when
they find an issue during a routine stop, then we call them the fish cops.

If your not part of the solutions..... your part of the problem

I wouldnt have it any other way......
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SRD is (Sustainable Resource Development) Its the government department . It consists of forestry , fish and wildlife and I think parks .

Fish and wildlife officers - Patrol everywhere including provincial parks .
Conservation officers - Patrol provincial parks .

Hope this helps Okotokian.
I knew you'd clarify that BBJ when I saw this post as you have so many times before. Thanks again... I never remember the difference. Police don't mind being called COPS so I doubt F&W and COs would. I have the habit of calling them all COs. Perhaps a F&W officer might be more offended being called a CO? Like mentioned previously, I think they would deem any of these terms acceptable compared to what they have been called at times.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:15 PM
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Police don't mind being called COPS so I doubt F&W and COs would.
Not all police think this way. My wife's got a family member who is an RCMP constable who think the workd cop is incredibly disrespectful.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:23 PM
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When speaking with any sort of LEO, I always address them as 'Sir'. Unless I'm dealing with huntinstuff, in which case I use 'Grandmaster-of-all-things-law-related-and-most-elequant-orator'.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:24 PM
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Not all police think this way. My wife's got a family member who is an RCMP constable who think the workd cop is incredibly disrespectful.
You're right I didn't mean to generalize. Those I know call themselves Cops when asked what they do; RCMP & City Police. But that's just them. No offence or disrespect intended.
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Not all police think this way. My wife's got a family member who is an RCMP constable who think the workd cop is incredibly disrespectful.

But cop is an akronim(spelling) short for "constables on patrol", I would think this is not too disrespectfull..imo
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But cop is an akronim(spelling) short for "constables on patrol", I would think this is not too disrespectfull..imo
Maybe it's "citizens on patrol" some don't appreciate. They are trained and are not regular citizens like you or I. Plus they earn their rank such as Constable. Don't think it applies to F&W Officers or COs as they are all Officers.. I think. But I suppose there are Supervisors etc.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:44 PM
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i heard some call them sea pigs id even be mad
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:52 PM
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i think cop came copper badges they used to wear in the 1900 hundreds
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:35 PM
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In my mind a "Fish Cop" is a DFO enforcement officer. In BC they are referred to as "CO" because they are Conservation Officers. Here we have Conservation Officers (parks) and Fish and Wildlife Officers (everywhere else).

I have taken to calling them SRD Officers, as COs work for Parks.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:55 PM
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I don't think it is derogatory. LOL
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:07 PM
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I don't think it is derogatory. LOL
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:10 PM
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Fish Pigs*** the pester me at sylvan lake comming to check on me sometimes 4-5 times a day isnt that redonkulas? well at sylvan alot of people dostuped stuff like keeping alot of walleye and throwing/punting the fish in soo i guess it is needed but if your there fishn i dont think i would start using barbs...
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In my mind a "Fish Cop" is a DFO enforcement officer. In BC they are referred to as "CO" because they are Conservation Officers. Here we have Conservation Officers (parks) and Fish and Wildlife Officers (everywhere else).

I have taken to calling them SRD Officers, as COs work for Parks.
In Alberta:
A Fish & Wildlife Officer is a two year DIPLOMA program.
A Conservation Enforcement Officer is a four year DEGREE program.

SRD is the acronym for:Sustainable Resources and Development and falls under the Provincial Government

DFO is the acronym for: Department of Fisheries and Oceans and falls under the Federal Government

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In Alberta:
A Fish & Wildlife Officer is a two year DIPLOMA program.
A Conservation Enforcement Officer is a four year DEGREE program.

SRD is the acronym for:Sustainable Resources and Development and falls under the Provincial Government

DFO is the acronym for: Department of Fisheries and Oceans and falls under the Federal Government
Not sure where you got that tidbit. If you are referring to Lethbridge College's educational programs, you are not quite correct.

You need neither program to get hired by either agency, but most AB employees come through the Conservation Enforcement program (and quite a few through RRM as well). The programs available are a 2 year diploma program and a 3 year applied degree in Conservation Enforcement.

You could also take the Fish and Wildlife Technician Certificate program (1 year) after getting a CE diploma, or more commonly, after getting a Renewable Resources Management Diploma. There was some talk of creating an applied degree program for F&W / RRM (this is not Enforcement based like the CE diploma/degree). Maybe this is what you are referring to?

And thanks for the SRD/DFO clarity...
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Not sure where you got that tidbit. If you are referring to Lethbridge College's educational programs, you are not quite correct.

You need neither program to get hired by either agency, but most AB employees come through the Conservation Enforcement program (and quite a few through RRM as well). The programs available are a 2 year diploma program and a 3 year applied degree in Conservation Enforcement.

You could also take the Fish and Wildlife Technician Certificate program (1 year) after getting a CE diploma, or more commonly, after getting a Renewable Resources Management Diploma. There was some talk of creating an applied degree program for F&W / RRM (this is not Enforcement based like the CE diploma/degree). Maybe this is what you are referring to?
Actually, the conservation enforcement degree at Lethbridge college is a four year program although, you may transfer for year 3 & 4 after completing the Diploma in Wildlife and Fisheries conservation program at Lakeland College in Vermilion.

The first year at both colleges is a "common" year for all environmental sciences.

My son will graduate from Lethbridge college in April with a Degree in Applied Science-Conservation Enforcement---TWO years at Lakeland and TWO years at Lethbridge

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Old 03-17-2011, 09:43 PM
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C constable O on P patrol.

Nothing wrong with that.
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Here comes the GAME WARDEN , its the title of their magazine.
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they dont seem to like " hello my brotha from a different motha "









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