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If acorn didn't do anything wrong then why did they shut it down ?
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Did you read any of the statement? It explains it.
Tell me something. How do you feel about Michael Moore?
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10-18-2016, 09:57 PM
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The election
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Well that's a way shorter answer lol.
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to bet on the election isn't it?
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Did you read any of the statement? It explains it.
Tell me something. How do you feel about Michael Moore?
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Check post #62
I don't want to put it in writing good enough
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Well that's a way shorter answer lol.
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to bet on the election isn't it?
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I was joking around.
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10-18-2016, 10:05 PM
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Check post #62
I don't want to put it in writing good enough
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How about Micheal Moore
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10-18-2016, 10:07 PM
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I was joking around.
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Me too Stringer. Me too.
The whole American election is a joke to me 
I'm looking forward to this being over.
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So... Stringer... is this video as credible as his 'genuine' ACORN vids?
Your source is discredited man. Wake up.
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He won't. He suffers from an extreme case of confirmation bias.
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He won't. He suffers from an extreme case of confirmation bias.
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Deniers will always deny everything, by it locker or bar room talk. But seriously these videos are troubling and facts have to be investigated. If he falsified the facts he has to get in trouble, if not then everybody involved should. Tell me you disagree
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He won't. He suffers from an extreme case of confirmation bias.
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18 acorn workers convicted of election fraud because of Okeefs undercover video.
What part of that don't you understand.
Your beyond help buddy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ion-fraud.html
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Re Okeefe vs ACORN (Wiki)...
"Due to his videos of ACORN workers allegedly aiding a couple in criminal planning, the U.S. Congress voted to freeze funds for the non-profit. The national scandal resulted in the non-profit also losing most private funding before investigations were completed. In March 2010, ACORN was close to bankruptcy and had to close most of its offices.[1] Shortly after, the California State Attorney General's Office and the US Government Accountability Office released their related investigative reports. The Attorney General's Office found that O'Keefe had misrepresented the actions of ACORN workers and that the workers had not committed illegal actions"
Which part dont you understand... I already posted this once, or are you going to stand by Fox News?
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Well..... he may have something...
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But from what I've found... the frauds were not politically motivated, but profit motivated....seems ACORN workers were paid to meet a voter registration quota (according to the prosecution). Or am I getting mixed up (on third rum here).
Interesting.
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But from what I've found... the frauds were not politically motivated, but profit motivated....seems ACORN workers were paid to meet a voter registration quota (according to the prosecution). Or am I getting mixed up (on third rum here).
Interesting.
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It states election fraud.
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I found this...
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations/
"Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes. What a McCain-Palin Web ad calls "voter fraud" is actually voter registration fraud. Several ACORN canvassers have been found guilty of faking registration forms and others are being investigated. But the evidence that has surfaced so far shows they faked forms to get paid for work they didn’t do, not to stuff ballot boxes."
It seems they werent totally innocent, but not as evil and nefarious as implied on Fox news. Ill eat a little bit of crow but not much.
Drama sells news I guess.
I sure as heck wouldnt take anything from James Okeefe at face value though.
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I found this...
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations/
"Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes. What a McCain-Palin Web ad calls "voter fraud" is actually voter registration fraud. Several ACORN canvassers have been found guilty of faking registration forms and others are being investigated. But the evidence that has surfaced so far shows they faked forms to get paid for work they didn’t do, not to stuff ballot boxes."
It seems they werent totally innocent, but not as evil and nefarious as implied on Fox news. Ill eat a little bit of crow but not much.
Drama sells news I guess.
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Every fraudulent voter registration was a potential vote. The person signing up the fake voters would not be the ones filling out the ballots. Almost impossible to detect voter fraud once the ballots are mailed in or stuffed into the ballot box.
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I am trying to take all news at less than face value these days. They all have an agenda, but Okeefe gets actual video, and lets it speak for itself. Acorn, abortionists, Foval, Creamer etc, all hung themselves on video. Pretty hard to splice what they said from non-existence to existence.
Creative editing? Look at Katie Couric, Jon Stewart, ABC, CNN, NBC et al.
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When AWOL mental patients were interviewed leaving Early US poling Stations if they would vote for Hilarity a second time ????
Most them answered " I ALREADY DID " 
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Voter fraud ringleader Bob Creamer met with Obama at the White House over 300 times.
I wonder what they were discussing . 
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Voter fraud ringleader Bob Creamer met with Obama at the White House over 300 times.
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Do you even understand that the counties and States run elections and not the federal government?
Or do you care? Looks like you would rather spread your cognizant dissonance rubbish.
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Do you even understand that the counties and States run elections and not the federal government?
Or do you care? Looks like you would rather spread your cognizant dissonance rubbish.
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Another deflection. There are only 2 possible explanations:
1) He didn't visit. It's a fake!
2) He did visit, then "What for?" is an absolutely valid question.
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Do you even understand that the counties and States run elections and not the federal government?
Or do you care? Looks like you would rather spread your cognizant dissonance rubbish.
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Yes I'm aware of that , what's your point
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Another deflection. There are only 2 possible explanations:
1) He didn't visit. It's a fake!
2) He did visit, then "What for?" is an absolutely valid question.
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Yes I'm aware of that , what's your point
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The obvious implication was that "the fix was in" at the federal level. Marco Rubio expressed it best that to be credible, the GOP needs to stop, full stop, talking about a "fixed election". And explains why.
Need the link or do you accept what I am saying?
Aww, what the heck, here are Rubio's own words.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video...dence-42883774
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You don't find it strange that unsubstantiated accusations from women against Trump are front page news on all these main stream media organizations and they continue to just hammer on that, but the information that is contained in the videos that Stringer posted is nowhere to be found in the mainstream media outlets? The guy was fired from the organization he works for, so they were obviously concerned, but not one of the mainstream media outlets is reporting on this.
What does that tell you?
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I'm quoting myself, but take a look at this article and ask yourself why Breitbart has to air this, and why is the mainstream media like CNN, the New York Times, Washington Post, etc. not airing this and interviewing this woman, like they did with the Trump accusers.
It's a real sad state of affairs when the Media can control and suppress the information people need to make informed decisions. The media coverage in our last election and what is happening with the US election is sickening. If you don't kiss the media's butt, they will do everything in their power to ruin your life, and they have all too many followers that support their actions.
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The obvious implication was that "the fix was in" at the federal level. Marco Rubio expressed it best that to be credible, the GOP needs to stop, full stop, talking about a "fixed election". And explains why.
Need the link or do you accept what I am saying?
Aww, what the heck, here are Rubio's own words.
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Nobody ever said that "fix was in" at Federal level. It would be impossible, it is always executed at local level - just look at Russia, they are alleged pros at bussing voters around.
The bigger issue is who is financing dirty tactics, how much Hillary (now maybe even Obama?!) know about it or even direct it to some point.
Were any laws broken in obvious financing of this mess? And, yes, investigate if there are signs that any of the parties used weaknesses of local laws to commit election fraud now or before.
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The obvious implication was that "the fix was in" at the federal level. Marco Rubio expressed it best that to be credible, the GOP needs to stop, full stop, talking about a "fixed election". And explains why.
Need the link or do you accept what I am saying?
Aww, what the heck, here are Rubio's own words.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video...dence-42883774 |
If you care to do some research you'll find that Obama , Clinton,Bernie , and Elizabeth Waren have all stated at one time or another that the system is rigged but the dishonest media and the hypocrite Obama are calling Trump a whiner.
Little Marco credible
Give me a break
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Nobody ever said that "fix was in" at Federal level. It would be impossible, it is always executed at local level - just look at Russia, they are alleged pros at bussing voters around.
The bigger issue is who is financing dirty tactics, how much Hillary (now maybe even Obama?!) know about it or even direct it to some point.
Were any laws broken in obvious financing of this mess? And, yes, investigate if there are signs that any of the parties used weaknesses of local laws to commit election fraud now or before.
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That's funny seeing Trump is billing his campaign for office space, rent at his hotels, Maro Largo, food, personnel and the use of his plane. In fact, it looks like he will actually make money of the campaign after all is said and done.
And after he loses (which he will) then he will use the campaign to launch Trump TV and online media with Breitbart. Because he will just want to keep feeding the Trumpanzees.
Meantime, his hotels and golf clubs are already losing business, as his name is too toxic.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-trump...from-election/
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That's funny seeing Trump is billing his campaign for office space, rent at his hotels, Maro Largo, food, personnel and the use of his plane. In fact, it looks like he will actually make money of the campaign after all is said and done.
And after he loses (which he will) then he will use the campaign to launch Trump TV and online media with Breitbart.
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Investigate and jail him if he broke the law, fine by me. I am sure FBI would be happy to dig into him.
The difference is that Hillary gets deals with FBI and can get away with murder, that's the scary part. Even scarier is that with Hillary USA quickly becomes a wealthier version of Russia - a country where government bureaucrats are above the law and their actions are not even questioned.
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That's funny seeing Trump is billing his campaign for office space, rent at his hotels, Maro Largo, food, personnel and the use of his plane. In fact, it looks like he will actually make money of the campaign after all is said and done.
And after he loses (which he will) then he will use the campaign to launch Trump TV and online media with Breitbart. Because he will just want to keep feeding the Trumpanzees.
Meantime, his hotels and golf clubs are already losing business, as his name is too toxic.
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Really what's that have to do with voter fraud.
And how would you know that his business are losing money are you his personal accountant or are you just making this s--t up or are you repeating a MSM lie.
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