Predator hunting at night? Your thoughts?

[TBark]

Many ways this can be done if implemented properly.
What OKo's said for example, only on private land to start.
Outside regular hunting seasons maybe.
Shooting from a proper setup, hill backdrop or something.
Limit bore size or primitive.
Can be done.

TBark

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

You misunderstand. I'm not saying night hunting would make any honest person a criminal. What I'm saying that as it sits now, a light at night and shooting draws immediate attention to a poacher. If night hunting of predators were allowed, those poachers would also probably be out there hunting deer at night, as they would draw no particular attention.

Would it be easier to ban flashlights?? you know just in case someone might use one for poaching?

I think in Minnisota they allow night hunting but no artificial lights.

"I can just imagine the guys that have been pounding the bush for 1 or 2 years out with spotlights slinging bullets"

That's not exactly what hunting at night is, any more than daytime hunting is a bunch of guys without spotlights pounding the bush slinging bullets.

[BackPackHunter]

I think it would help if the law was changed
& that u could hunt dogs 365 on crown land, not just
during big game seasons...
I know the Worden in the area I camp, and I asked him
his thoughts on this issue (365 not night) in 2013, he told me to take the
shot any time of the yr...

[Speckle55]

I think its time to change our rules on that issue

as others have posted around the world its done all the time

the range of shots taken is less at night

F&W and Sheriffs and RCMP will dispatch animals at night if necessary

at a registered gun range

on the FN here is the decision
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimesc...3b7b64&k=85221

sometimes we are fed propaganda by old wives tales

Food for Thought

David

[smith88]

Originally Posted by Ranch11

I'd rather the rules change in favor of using an AR to hunt em, rather then night hunts.

There are plenty (3 I have shot) non restricted semi auto rifles that can be used for coyote hunting.

[elkdump]

1 example Germany , they hunt at NIGHT , they kill more deer each year than there are deer ALIVE at any one time in Canada,

As well many US states have night hunting,

There are many countries that allow hunting at night ,

CANADA has more free spaces than almost anywhere on Earth !

The problem HERE is with politicians and those afraid of firearms,

NO MATTER WHAT TIME THE CLOCK SAYS,,,,,

[calgarychef]

As mentioned night hunting goes on in a LOT of countries. If it was from a permanent blind where the hunter had already decided where the safe zones are and if the blind was elevated it wouldn't ever be a safety concern. A pile of bait in front of that blind and you'd get all kinds of coyotes and wolves.

[elkdump]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

As mentioned night hunting goes on in a LOT of countries. If it was from a permanent blind where the hunter had already decided where the safe zones are and if the blind was elevated it wouldn't ever be a safety concern. A pile of bait in front of that blind and you'd get all kinds of coyotes and wolves.

Just an example European countries MANY hunting stands are on wheels and change position and location on a daily or hourly basis as conditions demand .

The political opinion in Canada that firearms use can be regulated safe and fool proof by politicians that are fools is only a delusion in the mind of those persons.

In fact, on a clear moonlight night it is just as safe to shoot as during a clear day, in fact SAFER on a Clear Moonlight Night at minus -30 Celsius for the fact there is less chance of someone casually loitering in fields or bush land at night than daylight hours.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by elkdump

1 example Germany , they hunt at NIGHT , they kill more deer each year than there are deer ALIVE at any one time in Canada,

As well many US states have night hunting,

There are many countries that allow hunting at night ,

CANADA has more free spaces than almost anywhere on Earth !

The problem HERE is with politicians and those afraid of firearms,

NO MATTER WHAT TIME THE CLOCK SAYS,,,,,

i think we should be able to.

some of those places have scope regulations that have a minimum size of scope.

our problem is we can't enforce anything here so we don't allow anything.

[Darkerwhite]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

If predator numbers are excessive perhaps extend seasons on public land or eliminate the requirement to harvest fur on public land.

I agree with this statement. I'd really like to spend more time in the public hunting areas I visit to hunt some predators.



With that same breath if there is anyone out there that would like to take a relatively new hunter out for some predator hunting this winter I'd love to join and am very eager to learn more.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by Speckle55

I think its time to change our rules on that issue

as others have posted around the world its done all the time

the range of shots taken is less at night

F&W and Sheriffs and RCMP will dispatch animals at night if necessary

at a registered gun range

on the FN here is the decision
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimesc...3b7b64&k=85221

sometimes we are fed propaganda by old wives tales

Food for Thought

David

That decision is limited to BC and those bands involved in the case. Btw, discharging a firearm at night in BC is legal.

There certainly is a defense case to be made for a treaty hunter charged for hunting at night in Alberta, but it would only occur after a court hearing. In Alberta it is urrently illegal for Anyone to hunt at night as well as discharge a firearm at night excepting approved ranges and officers performing their duty.

Now if the regulations were to be changed to allow ANY hunting with at night, treaty hunters would automatically be authorized to hunt all wildlife at night.

Back to the op..... I highly doubt that allowing night hunting for coyotes/wolves would provide any tangible benefit to reducing ungulate mortality.....

[jwilson]

Right or wrong, safe or unsafe, helpful or hindering, a gun shot at night is extremely alarming to anyone who hears it. Therefore my opinion it would cause more grief than anything.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Let's face it a lot of this already goes on in many farmyards...

LC

[gitrdun]

at night? ARE YOU A RETARD ?

[jwilson]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Let's face it a lot of this already goes on in many farmyards...



LC

Yard light, dead cow, kitchen window.

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by jwilson

Yard light, dead cow, kitchen window.

Bedroom window, the wife loves the 22-250 in the morning!

[jwilson]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

Bedroom window, the wife loves the 22-250 in the morning!

Sweet

[jwilson]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

Bedroom window, the wife loves the 22-250 in the morning!

BANG! "'Gon be a good honey!" Haha

[jwilson]

***good day

[Smokinyotes]

Myself I feel that I could safely hunt coyotes at night in areas I know. I don't have a lot of faith in some other hunters I have seen. I would love to be able to hunt coyotes at night with my AR with a 30 round mag and a flir night vision scope but won't live long enough to ever see this happen.

[wasteland.soldier]

Pretty sure you can shoot "pest" animals in the dark in Ontario.

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by jwilson

Yard light, dead cow, kitchen window.

LOL! I don't know anywhere where this happens.....

[JohninAB]

Like mentioned before, I enjoy watching the reaction of the critter coming in to the call which would be not as evident for the most part at night using a light. The few episodes I have watched on calling predators at night did nothing for me personally.

I also have some safety concerns much along the lines of those already mentioned.

The use of an AR while calling predators I would fully support.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by waiting41

My opinion.......which is only important to me lol. Bad idea! Easy enough to become unsure of whats downstream from a shot even in the daylight. Anyone that will not admit they have become even moderaly unsure of what is in the distance in the fog or a snow storm ect. Is full of s..t

Well said!

[coy coyote]

ever seen muley does come to a rabbit call. The only thing that you will see is eyes in the dark and bang down goes a doe or the neighbors sheep dog. Too many risks.

[lannie]

I think I would really enjoy it. The people I hunt with don't turn their brains off just because the sun goes down and it would be great to try hunting Racoons at night with dogs.

[P-Pyro]

Jungle Fisher is correct. I've also done lots of night shooting in Australia, mostly rabbits but also kangaroos and foxes. Shooting was done in country areas at short range, usually shooting down, especially from the back of a vehicle. Never any danger of shooting people or livestock.

[davesilva]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Let's face it a lot of this already goes on in many farmyards...

LC

Hell yeah cows are expensive angry farmers driving their trucks in their fields at night spooting canines and blasting away

[davesilva]

What's the purpose of this thread anyways to control predator numbers? well look at the trapping section and check the coyote count on this forum those few guys that post on here show how much more effective trapping is for this matter

And with all the poaching as of late and retardation of poeple getting shot while wearing blaze Orange I could never see hunting predators at night being legal in the province.

[grinr]

100% yes!!
As mentioned repeatedly,night hunting is allowed in many states and other countries.
Many of the states that allow night hunting have restrictions to address safety and poaching of big game concerns,ie;Maine for example that I am familiar with allows night hunting after Dec.31,long after deer season has ended....and I can tell you first hand it is good fun and a damn effective method of hunting yotes.
Other states have caliber restrictions,ie;<.23cal,rim fire only,shotgun only etc,etc...
Fwiw,most of Canada DOES in fact allow night hunting ........night hunting of coons with hounds,did it myself for years,shooting treed coons with .22lr.
I also seen dozens upon hundreds of deer in October corn fields while coon huntn....was never tempted to poach one.Poachers will be poachers,day or night,open or closed season,24/7,laws and rules be damned.You Safety Sally types are as bad if not worse then the politicians that like to ban firearms because criminals sometimes use guns.....I say worse because you walk amongst us and are "supposedly" my hunting peers ....NOT!
Y'all are brainwashed into associating night hunting with poaching,and use safety as a feeble argument to justify restricting hunting opps IMHO.What working stiff amongst us wouldn't welcome the opportunity to enjoy some night hunting after all of his daylight hours are used up earning a living?I know I would!!
Fwiw,AB allows night angling 365 days year,whereas many states/provinces restrict angling(other the n ice fishing?)to the same hours as hunting.Doesnt mean guys are poaching 25" Browns out of the Bow after dark any more then those that do it in broad daylight....probably far less actually?Maybe Sally should push to ban night fishing,because somebody "might" trip,bump their head and drown?