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11-05-2015, 09:31 PM
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Entitlement?
I see at least 10-20 new ads like this posted on kijiji daily lately.
Usually they include some type of selfie, and lack even a basic spell check.
Does this actually work for anyone, or do they expect jobs to just come to them?
I really can't tell if it is a "what could it hurt" kind of move, or if it is just young naivety, or even just ndp fever.
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Hello, i am moving to red deer, with my lady. And i need a job for when i get there. I am 24. Hard working reliable, you can txt me at ******* or call me at ********** if you need my resume email me & ask me for it
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Im a very energetic woman with labouring and farming experience. I aint nvr been the barbiedoll type...dont let my exterior fool u... I recently moved here with family and am seeking immediate employment. Im great with most hand and power tools, i can lift 50lbs plus i am experienced with home renos. Interior and exterior, im great with most tasks. I have a valid drivers license but do not own a vehicle, i am fearful of some heights but manage well..i can work any schedule and commence..yesterday. Im in late 30s. No upcoming priorities which could involve.me requiring time off. I can be reached via text or calling
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I am eighteen years old, married, and moved to Red Deer Deer early this year. What I am seeking in a job is part-time hours (10-30hours per week), satisfying work that allows me to learn, and will help me with supporting my family financially. My availability is Monday to Friday 8am-5pm, and every other Saturday from 1pm-5pm. Personal health concerns/injuries will not allow lifting heavy loads regularly or working extended hours
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Need work ASAP I am a 21 year old male, don't smoke no drugs, I can be away for periods of time I have a car and all tickets except for my first aid just expired have oilfield experience, can work long hours and I treated in learning anything trying to find full time work
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11-05-2015, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 1000yards
I see at least 10-20 new ads like this posted on kijiji daily lately.
Usually they include some type of selfie, and lack even a basic spell check.
Does this actually work for anyone, or do they expect jobs to just come to them?
I really can't tell if it is a "what could it hurt" kind of move, or if it is just young naivety, or even just ndp fever.
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So you are complaining about people who are willing to work?
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11-05-2015, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ImpartialObserver
So you are complaining about people who are willing to work?
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I think it's more about expecting the work to come to them, rather than going out and pounding the pavement.
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11-05-2015, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by alacringa
I think it's more about expecting the work to come to them, rather than going out and pounding the pavement.
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I think you are correct
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11-05-2015, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by alacringa
I think it's more about expecting the work to come to them, rather than going out and pounding the pavement.
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How do we know they are not doing both?
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11-05-2015, 09:59 PM
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I'd like to see how horrendous their CVs are, with ads that say things like "aint nvr been the barbiedoll type."
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11-05-2015, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ImpartialObserver
So you are complaining about people who are willing to work?
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No, I am just a bit baffled by it and not sure if I am looking at it wrong, or if my opinion of how to look for work is just outdated or non relevant to recent culture.
I see a large distinction between the ones that are posting and saying they are willing to do anything to earn their wages, and those that are just putting in the same amount of effort as they do to a facebook status and expect a job out of it.
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11-06-2015, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1000yards
No, I am just a bit baffled by it and not sure if I am looking at it wrong, or if my opinion of how to look for work is just outdated or non relevant to recent culture.
I see a large distinction between the ones that are posting and saying they are willing to do anything to earn their wages, and those that are just putting in the same amount of effort as they do to a facebook status and expect a job out of it.
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I would say they are using every option available to them, casting a wide net. I see just as many employers with help wanted ads on kijiji. They could just as easily be clicking on a govt website signing up for welfare benefits.
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11-06-2015, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ImpartialObserver
So you are complaining about people who are willing to work?
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No I believe this is about people who are that ignorant to think that a viable company is going to seriously look at this type of crap.
Oh these people will find jobs, dig a hole, fill a hole, get paid, party, don't show up, blame the boss....repeat.
Not all all though, can't really paint everyone with the same brush but the majority in this case.
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11-06-2015, 05:41 AM
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I suppose Linkedin works better if a person has real experience instead of 'levelled up 6 times' in Halo3 last weekend.
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11-06-2015, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by russ
I suppose Linkedin works better if a person has real experience instead of 'levelled up 6 times' in Halo3 last weekend.
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What's a Halo3
Can I use it on a resume and throw it in during a interview?
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11-06-2015, 05:54 AM
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What's a Halo3
Can I use it on a resume and throw it in during a interview?
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Absolutely! Throw in Beer Bungee as a hobby too!
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11-06-2015, 06:16 AM
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Why would any self-respecting businessman even bother reading that crap, let alone respond to it!!
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11-06-2015, 06:24 AM
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I check the resumes section out regularly to see if anything catches my eye. This guy certainly does not
Inquiring for a Framer career. In need of some assistance restarting my job. I've been trying so hard to get my truck back. Also I am just going through a company lose. I'm truly a legend in Framing and have a positive attitude to get in done. I'm not so lucky with the jobs I've been stuck with. Im a great guy and you would be happy to have helped me get on my feet. for I offer you all my time 24/7 in return. I just need some help with this situation. I hav3 built for 10 years straight framing. I'm super qualified. No height no pitch intimadates me. I've been a top quality framer for many years. I really hope someone . A great framer gives me a opportunity. With abit of help at the start.. I never let anyone down. I'm sure you'll be able to eventually feel you have helped a great person out. While obtaining a super high output of framing out of me. I'm struggling but not with my framing ethic. Just money ruined the best of me and buying a 2015 5.7 liter hemi was more than I needed . Same with the zoom boom at the high cost. So now I'm willing to labour and layout your framing. Tyler ****** email me please. Thank you
On another one of his ads, he says he ain't working for no $24 a hour to prove himself. Wow.
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11-06-2015, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Opa
Why would any self-respecting businessman even bother reading that crap, let alone respond to it!!
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Why would any self respecting businessman advertise for help on Kijiji and expect anyone to respond.
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11-06-2015, 08:13 AM
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Yes, those ads are painful reads. Spelling out your life's troubles and professing your lack of humility along with copious grammatical errors will net you nothing with any self-respecting employer.
The obvious lack of attention to detail (and obvious lack of education) in those "resumes" is another sign of the times. The very moment I saw the abbreviation "u" used in place of the word "you" is the very moment a resume would be launched into the can faster than a 35grain 220Swift projectile could get there.
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11-06-2015, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ImpartialObserver
So you are complaining about people who are willing to work?
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My thoughts exactly. If they felt "entitled" they would just be sitting on their butts.
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11-06-2015, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by alacringa
I think it's more about expecting the work to come to them, rather than going out and pounding the pavement.
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How do you know they aren't? Seeing one part of someone's job search, assuming they aren't doing anything else, and then making stupid assumptions about them is simply ignorant. We have seen people post threads here trying to find a missing son or daughter. Does any one actually think that is the only thing they are doing to find their child?
Some people need to get a life.
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11-06-2015, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
How do you know they aren't? Seeing one part of someone's job search, assuming they aren't doing anything else, and then making stupid assumptions about them is simply ignorant. We have seen people post threads here trying to find a missing son or daughter. Does any one actually think that is the only thing they are doing to find their child?
Some people need to get a life.
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I'd say the main issue is more about upholding some basic standards rather than their will to work.
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11-06-2015, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by propliner
I'd say the main issue is more about upholding some basic standards rather than their will to work.
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Well, they do mention a couple things I'd advise a job seeker not to mention, but heck, they are trying. I didn't sense any sense of "entitlement"
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11-06-2015, 08:37 AM
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So many jobs are won and lost by what someone does or posts on Facebook.
Advertising costs money
With all the ways to be online it makes sense to post what is essentially a resume on a "free website "
What even comes in a hard copy anymore?
All bills and everything else is online.
Besides if I'm a lazy HR person who spends their time online anyways as part of my day to day I would most likely look for a potential employee online
That way I can still creep Facebook
And show you the boss
I'm still doing my job
Finding you the employee you need
So yeah
This makes sense in 2015
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11-06-2015, 08:41 AM
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They do not know what pounding the pavement is.
They only know what a smartphone is and no idea how to ring a doorbell or pick up a pen and paper ,let alone write something on said piece of paper.
They maybe hurting and we as a society hasn't started to hurt yet...
Rob
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11-06-2015, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by propliner
I'd say the main issue is more about upholding some basic standards rather than their will to work.
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So you would rather hire a useless person with good grammar than a hard worker?
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11-06-2015, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ETOWNCANUCK
Besides if I'm a lazy HR person who spends their time online anyways as part of my day to day I would most likely look for a potential employee online
That way I can still creep Facebook
And show you the boss
I'm still doing my job
Finding you the employee you need
So yeah
This makes sense in 2015
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They don't creep around facebook to find recruits. They go on facebook to check on applicants. "The resume looks good... oh wait, look at their facebook page. Nothing but sexist or racist comments or pictures of them smoking a joint. Let's jut file that resume in the garbage."
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11-06-2015, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ImpartialObserver
So you would rather hire a useless person with good grammar than a hard worker?
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Poor grammar says a lot about a person and how seriously they took their education. In the age of spell check, I don't think there is an excuse for bad spelling either.
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11-06-2015, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
Poor grammar says a lot about a person and how seriously they took their education. In the age of spell check, I don't think there is an excuse for bad spelling either.
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I'd say it depends on the job. It wouldn't be a concern if I was hiring a tradesman. It would be if I was hiring a professional whose job involved a lot of communication.
My advice to that one job seeker would be not to admit medical problems and limitations in advance. See what the job offered is and what the requirements are. You might be able to do it and hence not have to reveal disabilities that could be unfairly used against you in the job search process.
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11-06-2015, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
Poor grammar says a lot about a person and how seriously they took their education. In the age of spell check, I don't think there is an excuse for bad spelling either.
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If that was 100% true I wouldn't hire 2/3 of AO...
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11-06-2015, 09:05 AM
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If that was 100% true I wouldn't hire 2/3 of AO...
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LOL True, but it doesn't mean piker is wrong.
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11-06-2015, 09:11 AM
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LOL True, but it doesn't mean piker is wrong.
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Hence the 100% part. I agree with you on that its situational. If your hiring somebody to write reports and such, good language skills are vital. However, I work in a sawmill. Having good language skills aren't even considered.
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11-06-2015, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt L.
Hence the 100% part. I agree with you on that its situational. If your hiring somebody to write reports and such, good language skills are vital. However, I work in a sawmill. Having good language skills aren't even considered.
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