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07-09-2014, 03:02 PM
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Broadhead tune in more detail...
Gary as promised....This is a little more detailed in sequence than my diagram
slide #1 is group with broadhead and field point slide #2 with both shot and step taken...and so one...easy to understand once you get how its explained...
I have pics on my broadhead and tune set up but didnt have time to put in all the graphics so thanks to Doc on archery talk for these pics...
Pic #1- 3 shot group with FP [Field Points] and 3 shot group of BH [Broadheads] and step taken...
Pic #2 and Step #2...and so on
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07-09-2014, 03:42 PM
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Thanks Neil...cool stuff!
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07-30-2014, 08:04 AM
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I have seen that just could not find it
Thank you
I'll give her a try and see how all goes
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07-30-2014, 10:31 AM
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Did a final tune using this method and was putting broadheads [G5 Striker 125gr] in a three inch circle at 50 yards last night...flying as true as any mecanical could hope...lol
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08-15-2014, 04:31 AM
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Why do you move the rest instead of the sight to Broadhead tune your bow? Will moving your rest to Broadhead tune effect your paper tune work you did first?
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08-15-2014, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghillie_frog
Why do you move the rest instead of the sight to Broadhead tune your bow? Will moving your rest to Broadhead tune effect your paper tune work you did first?
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You can move your move your sight all you want in direction...but that isnt going to bring your BH and FP group together...it just moves a bad group.
One can move the BH to the X ...but the FP will still be off
Paper tuning the bow with FP adjusts nock point up and down...and adjusts windage left and right for factors such as arrow spine..
Moving rest finds that sweet spot for Both the FP and BH after that...so they will group together...that you move that group via the sight both to the X
It may effect paper tune of FP after that... but that is the sweet spot where both FP and BH are flying the best...
For hunting one doesnt care if FP is slightly off on paper tune as long as BH is flying at its optinum and both are grouping together...
look at it as paper tuning the BH ..without paper... which is near impossible due to BH cuts...cant read a tear with cuts
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08-17-2014, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow
Did a final tune using this method and was putting broadheads [G5 Striker 125gr] in a three inch circle at 50 yards last night...flying as true as any mecanical could hope...lol
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I'd like to put field points in a 3" circle at 50 yards....I've found in the last seven years, (after I turned 40) as my eyesight dropped off, my groups opened up a little each year. I shoot now with my prescription sunglasses, and that helped a good bit. I'm hitting pie plates at 50 at 100% accuracy, but at 60 yards, maybe 70%....Oh well, I'll just have to keep my shots within my comfort zone. It is not an equipment issue, it's for sure me, so that keeps me from tinkering.
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08-17-2014, 02:12 PM
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I have a whisker biscuit rest but it has no way to raise it? Or am I missing something completely.
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08-17-2014, 03:51 PM
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Then you will need to change the height of your nock (d-loop). If your rest needed to go up then your d-loop will need to go down... and vice versa.
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08-17-2014, 04:44 PM
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Then you will need to change the height of your nock (d-loop). If your rest needed to go up then your d-loop will need to go down... and vice versa.
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I understand that, but I thought you needed to change both as it would change the level of the arrow? (Forgot what it is called but how you square your arrow less a degree when it is nocked)
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08-17-2014, 06:35 PM
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No need to move both. With a biscuit with no up and down adjustment if you square it to the riser or even slightly tilt it you should still be slicing your Berger hole properly. So if your broad heads are hitting high then you need to raise your nock point. Some bows tune nock high, some at 90 degrees and I even had a shift that tuned nock below 90. I always refrain to advise someone they need better equipment but in this case for a biscuit with both horizontal and vertical adjustment you are looking at about 40 bucks. Might be money well spent.
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08-17-2014, 08:39 PM
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No need to move both. With a biscuit with no up and down adjustment if you square it to the riser or even slightly tilt it you should still be slicing your Berger hole properly. So if your broad heads are hitting high then you need to raise your nock point. Some bows tune nock high, some at 90 degrees and I even had a shift that tuned nock below 90. I always refrain to advise someone they need better equipment but in this case for a biscuit with both horizontal and vertical adjustment you are looking at about 40 bucks. Might be money well spent.
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Don't refrain, input and advice from another hunter is always appreciated. When I got my whisker it was 5 years ago so I didn't know they had them with both vertical and horizontal adjustment! Will look into it thank you very much.
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08-18-2014, 08:16 AM
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I have a whisker biscuit rest but it has no way to raise it? Or am I missing something completely.
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:d Ya there is four models with complete vertical windage and horizontal adjustment...in a second...
No need for the most expensive ...just extra weight and messing around IMHO...I use the Power Shot because it is ballistic polymer which makes it so light and strong...there are other models as the Dead Shot that cost less ...but are exactally the same rest only Aircraft Aluninum...
The cheapest model without the adjustment is hard to work with properly!
We set up the Ugly Cookie [WB] so top leans slightly toward string..1/16 max...makes a quiter drawing and shooting rest...arrow in rest is center on berger/rest bolt hole...at eye level...
center arrow 13/16 from bow riser...
Than using a bow square from bottom of arrow in rest 1/4-5/16 above square or 90 degrees of that bottom of arrow on string...
Works optinum for 99% of shooters
Paper tune or walk back for bow brand, arrow and other variance's
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Bump as Per Discussion...
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06-02-2015, 10:48 AM
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can a mod make these tuning tip threads stickys? thank you
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08-11-2016, 11:09 AM
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Hi
Just wondering what distance you shoot at when initially tuning in for broad heads??
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Nice
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09-02-2019, 10:21 AM
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Hi all, the only thing I am not seeing explained here is what distances to tune to? Longest expected distance or repeat through multiple distances? Great information, thanks!
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09-02-2019, 10:27 AM
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Hi all, the only thing I am not seeing explained here is what distances to tune to? Longest expected distance or repeat through multiple distances? Great information, thanks!
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I would say start at 20yds and once you are close shoot again at 40 and 60 to confirm the flight paths are the same at distance too.
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09-02-2019, 01:02 PM
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Cool thanks
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09-02-2019, 02:01 PM
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I tune EACH arrow that enters my quiver to at least 60yrds.
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09-03-2019, 11:23 AM
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I tune EACH arrow that enters my quiver to at least 60yrds.
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Once it is tuned out to 60, can i expect lesser distances to fly true then?
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Once it is tuned out to 60, can i expect lesser distances to fly true then?
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Generally yes if your 1/2/3 axis is set correctly. I test a 20/40/60 minimum.
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10-20-2019, 08:51 AM
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Could someone re-do the pictures?
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Generally yes if your 1/2/3 axis is set correctly. I test a 20/40/60 minimum.
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I found this process very helpful but can’t recall how to do it without the photos.
Thanks.
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