Gun Registry Super Thread (please thank your Liberal/NDP friends)

[32-40win]

Another one of those priceless ones, Mark Gerritsen ragging on Don PLett for holding up the Senate proceedings on C21 (he hasn't even started yet).

Senator Don Plett
@DonPlett
Now this is rich! The govt sponsor of #C21 hasn't even spoken on this Bill, and yet I am blamed for holding it up. 🤦
The comments by
@MarkGerretsen
demonstrate the Trudeau govt's lack of respect for the #SenCA and its disregard for proper parliamentary process. /1
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Mark Gerretsen 🇨🇦 🇺🇦
@MarkGerretsen
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May 30
CPC are in bed with the gun lobby & they’re shouting it from the rooftops.

It’s more clear than ever: we need to pass C-21 quickly. To protect our loved ones from gun violence.

I’m calling on Senator @DonPlett to stop stalling & get tough on crime by passing C-21. twitter.com/polysesouvient…
5:50 PM · May 30, 2023

Senator Don Plett
@DonPlett
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We know substance isn't a priority for the Trudeau govt, but here are the mandatory firearms penalties that "tough on crime"
@MarkGerretsen
voted to repeal:
-Robbery with a firearm
-Extortion with a firearm
-Discharging firearm with intent...
-Using firearm in commission of offences
-Possession of firearm knowing its possession is unauthorized
-Possession of prohibited or restricted firearm with ammunition
-Possession of weapon obtained by commission of offence
-Discharging firearm — recklessness

The Trudeau govt's attempt to put a gun to our head on a gun Bill is completely irresponsible.
Many groups, including Indigenous Peoples, have strong concerns with this legislation. It is crucial that the Senate do its job, and properly study Bill #C21. /4

[IronNoggin]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

Trudeau blames Harper government for rising gun violence

Only one major problem with that.
Shootings and homicides overall were declining under Harper's government.

Since then, they are blossoming according to Stats Canada:

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...101%2C20210101

So Nice Try Trudeau, but yet another complete and utter fail...

[32-40win]

SAAMI has prepared a presentation for the UN regarding small arms cartridge markings, link is to the UN page, as it shows some history there on the subject as well.

https://meetings.unoda.org/meeting/6...cQ3k8AIzYxolvs

[IronNoggin]

Honest and non-political law enforcement will make Canada safer and more free. That deserves respect and cooperation.

Credit where credit is due,
Thank you Chief Bray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZxxJtwYNw

[IronNoggin]

Although widely touted by the liberals that these measures were / are supported by the vast majority of Canadians, their own findings beg to differ:

https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/r.../index-en.aspx





Hmmmmm...

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

Although widely touted by the liberals that these measures were / are supported by the vast majority of Canadians, their own findings beg to differ:

https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/r.../index-en.aspx





Hmmmmm...

And the wording is badly flawed, given that assault rifles were prohibited decades ago.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Encouraging to see the Senate doing due diligence. Hope that sound reason prevails!

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

Encouraging to see the Senate doing due diligence. Hope that sound reason prevails!

It won’t.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by crazy_davey

It won’t.

The senate is beyond useless.

[32-40win]

Plett has nade some awesome speeches in the Senate regarding various legislation from the Libs, C71 was an example, and C21 will no doubt spur another classic from him, he is a slow talking version of PP in his own way. But, the "independent" senators are Lib supporters, and screwed us on C71, and will probably screw us again on C21. The ghost gun amendments were put in to guarantee safe passage for C21, even the Cons voted for them.
There was a link wayyy back in this thread, to the last speech he made on C71, unfortunately, Plett took it down off his YT channel now. He could, and likely will, modify & repeat it again at the end of C21. What means he may actually have at his disposal to delay this bill enough to kill it? Unknown to me. Would he, is he, or can he actually use them? Not sure at all. Is the whole thing a big scam on the part of the Cons in the Senate? Maybe.

[Pathfinder76]

All of it is pretend. A side show. A well paid game of smoke and mirrors.

[32-40win]

A letter from the CFP posted by Prophet River. The Libs have tender bids open for heavy grinders to dispose of firearms out now, buying up to 4 of them, apprently first one will go to Vancouver;

Confiscation From Businesses Beginning
Posting this just to keep the firearms community informed. We are in no way cooperating or collaborating with the confiscation.


Good afternoon,
I am C/Supt Amanda Jones with the RCMP in Ottawa. I am currently assigned to the RCMP Firearm Compensation Team who is providing assistance to Public Safety Canada on the implementation of the federal Firearm Compensation Program, known as the Buy Back Program. I am only speaking to the firearms that have been listed as prohibited in the May 2020 Order in Council.
One of the things the RCMP is assisting PS Canada on is the collection of firearms from businesses. We have identified a location for receiving the firearms from businesses where we will be doing the processing for validation, that leads to payment, and the destruction. In order to get a sense of how many firearms we will be receiving from businesses, I was hoping I could have a quick phone call with someone at the company to learn how many previously non‐restricted and
restricted firearms, that are now prohibited, you have in your inventory, including upper receivers. This information will help inform us as to the numbers we can expect from businesses, especially the previously non‐restricted numbers.
I thank you for your time and I look forward to your reply.



Respectfully,

Amanda
C/Supt Amanda Jones
Officer in Charge Operational Coordination & Planning
RCMP Firearm Compensation Team

[32-40win]

A really good podcast with Pamela Wallin and the Sask CFO, she gets it, and he explains the issues in the CFO's offices;

https://www.buzzsprout.com/1154654/1...Wq9jNC0dLherJY

[32-40win]

A first impression of Dominic Leblanc, the new Publc Safety Minister, don't think he is the useful idiot the last two were, he ran then dropped out of the LIberal leadership race in 2011, when Ignatieff became the short term leader.
Seems like a lot going on, still lots of questions to be answered.
Vid is from Calibre mag;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeJytJNguLk

[Bushrat]

Gangs and black market entrapreneurs are manufacturing their own 'ghost' guns nowadays. 3D printing and CNC technology make it very easy to make their own arms. Easier than operating a grow op or meth lab. They don't have to smuggle or steal them anymore. There have been a few busts of illegal gun manufacturers the last few years. IMO we will soon find as usual that those busts are just the tip of the iceberg.

[IronNoggin]

Gun violence is up 101% under Trudeau



Gang Homicide is up 108% under Trudeau

[Hunter gatherer]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

And the wording is badly flawed, given that assault rifles were prohibited decades ago.

An episode of 16/9 I watched a while ago about the RCMP getting new rifles. What struck me as odd was the rifles were never called assault they were called carbines,which they are. It's all about perspective.

[IronNoggin]

They predicted Trudeau's gun bans would fail. They were right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKSb8j0qDn0

[IronNoggin]

[IronNoggin]

Poilievre No. 2 Lantsman tells Trudeau legal beagle to get real

For the Conservative deputy leader, the Trudeau Liberals screwing up on dealing with bad guys is 'cuckoo bananas'

Melissa Lantsman wants to give Trudeau’s new top legal beagle, Toronto’s Arif Virani, a piece of her mind.

“Stop listening to the pointy-headed professors and start listening to Canadians,” says Lantsman, the suburban Toronto MP and deputy leader of the Pierre Poilievre-led federal Conservatives.

“He needs to leave his bubble and go outside into the streets. It’s like they don’t experience what Canadians experience.”

Lantsman says you can’t have a minister like Virani who figures what you’re feeling is imaginary.

You’ve heard of Virani. He’s the guy who believes those feeling less safe, well, it’s all in their heads.

He thinks “empirically” it is unlikely Canada is becoming less safe.

No doubt Virani uses the word “empirically” because it’s a fancy-pants word he figures gives his nonsensical statement more authority.

He thinks there is a “sense” the safety of people is “more in jeopardy.”

Just a sense, not a real thing. You can go back to sleep now.

Lantsman has no patience for Virani’s shtick.

She says Trudeau shuffling his inner circle is just “changing out talking head for talking head” with no real change in mind.

But she feels people are waking up.

What Trudeau’s sidekick says is “ludicrous” and “wildly, wildly out of touch” and “maddening,” and he’s from Toronto which is no picnic when we’re talking safety.

For the Conservative deputy leader, the Trudeau Liberals screwing up on dealing with bad guys is “cuckoo bananas.”

She talks about gun crimes with illegal firearms, “the ones the Liberals didn’t ban because they decided to go after hunters.”

https://calgarysun.com/opinion/colum...613c67c56/amp/

There is MUCH more to the article. Well Worth a Read IMO!

Cheers,
Nog

[Stinky Buffalo]

Gary Mauser has a good blog article on the topic of “Federal government plans to confiscate $4 billion worth of private property via gun ban”:

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blog...ty-via-gun-ban

[IronNoggin]

The hypocrisy is absolutely outstanding: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsoIsjhOkog/

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

The hypocrisy is absolutely outstanding: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsoIsjhOkog/

Yup, the dissonance is so obvious...

[Stinky Buffalo]

And the media is clueless, as usual….

https://www.thestar.com/business/can...5259d69ff.html

[coolpete1]

anybody know whats happening with the amnesty running out in october?

[32-40win]

Wait til Parliament reconvenes, they will likely have to extend it, as they have nothing in place to process anything related to a confiscation. I don't know what the May 2020 case situation is at present, maybe the Libs are waiting on a decision there, but, not betting on that going in our favor. More likely to see another OIC announced come this session, C21 will make it thru the Senate this year, haven't heard squat on new firearms panel yet.
It will be an interesting session this time, hurry up and wait, expect the worst, and hope for the best.

[32-40win]

This is from the CSSA, for your irritating pleasure, school in Ont suspended 1st graders for playing cops and robbers, there is also a survey in here.

https://myemail.constantcontact.com/...id=lCE0thqIglA