Stolen water

[WayneChristie]

I came across a documentary about water issues in BC and the war on farmers if anyone is interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J5LuFijhBc&t=12s

[roper1]

Awesome article, Thanks Wayne!

[W921]

Originally Posted by WayneChristie

I came across a documentary about water issues in BC and the war on farmers if anyone is interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J5LuFijhBc&t=12s

In the Yukon the government was doing the same thing. Natives want to be mining the gold so to get rid of guys who look like me the government was not renewing water licenses.

Worse in BC because there the government is just taking Away the water from deeded land owner farmer's across the province.

Both cases are not about water shortage .

Woke justice

Atleast in Alberta they only pick us off one by one

[Grizzly Adams1]

I saw the video a while back and there seems to be a certain sense of entitlement at play. We're in a drought, limited water and what there is has to be prioritized and irrigation farming of hay, a low value crop when it comes down to it, would be one my earliest cuts. Look for the same here this Spring, the government has allready put municipalities on notice, they're not happy.

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by W921

In the Yukon the government was doing the same thing. Natives want to be mining the gold so to get rid of guys who look like me the government was not renewing water licenses.

Worse in BC because there the government is just taking Away the water from deeded land owner farmer's across the province.

Both cases are not about water shortage .

Woke justice

Atleast in Alberta they only pick us off one by one

Several years ago the BC govt decided they needed to register all private wells, and of course they wanted to charge for livestock and crop watering.

We owned land right beside a good sized river and had a well, so I went to a community meeting about it with our Regional Director in attendance. He spoke in favour of it, and I spoke out against the whole idea. His reasoning was it's a good idea because in California they have water shortages due to the water table being drawn down too far and we should make sure it doesn't happen where we live. I asked him if he knew where we lived? Millions of gallons of water flowing right past our doors everyday and you think we need to worry about a water table like they do in California?

It's more likely just setting us up for another form of tax, like city dwellers that get charged via water meters.

[W921]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

I saw the video a while back and there seems to be a certain sense of entitlement at play. We're in a drought, limited water and what there is has to be prioritized and irrigation farming of hay, a low value crop when it comes down to it, would be one my earliest cuts. Look for the same here this Spring, the government has allready put municipalities on notice, they're not happy.

The video's are about British Columbia
There are three parts or documentary shows about stolen water. If you watch whole series its pretty plain to see it has nothing to do with actual water shortage.
Low value crops is what high dollar dairy and beef animals live on.

[W921]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Several years ago the BC govt decided they needed to register all private wells, and of course they wanted to charge for livestock and crop watering.

We owned land right beside a good sized river and had a well, so I went to a community meeting about it with our Regional Director in attendance. He spoke in favour of it, and I spoke out against the whole idea. His reasoning was it's a good idea because in California they have water shortages due to the water table being drawn down too far and we should make sure it doesn't happen where we live. I asked him if he knew where we lived? Millions of gallons of water flowing right past our doors everyday and you think we need to worry about a water table like they do in California?

It's more likely just setting us up for another form of tax, like city dwellers that get charged via water meters.

If right person shoots a moose its natural and spiritual. If I do it I'm exploiting wildlife.
I suspect same thing with water. More about who gets a bennifit from it?

[pikergolf]

Socialists go to bed and dream about new laws and rules they can make up. If they aren't making rules to "improve" the world they figure what's the point. Busy bodies on steroids. Kevin's and Karen's. Watched our PM implode when talking about the Bell layoffs, you just know he's trying to figure out how to insert himself.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Socialists go to bed and dream about new laws and rules they can make up. If they aren't making rules to "improve" the world they figure what's the point. Busy bodies on steroids. Kevin's and Karen's. Watched our PM implode when talking about the Bell layoffs, you just know he's trying to figure out how to insert himself.

My theory is, the government has its more than its share of blame here , allowing the ever increasing centralization and consolidation of services, ie. the recent merger of Rogers and Shaw.

[sealevel]

i grew up beside that river . swam in it , fished it , we could always find a good swimming hole . not anymore farmers are are sucking water from it its entire length . most places its farmed right to the edge . if a salmon wanted to get clear to salmon lake he would have to walk .

[fishnguy]

Watched all three parts. Basically shows the rant of the farmers, justified or not (I don’t know because there was zero info presented from the other side; somehow natives are involved?).

The teacher asked where the milk comes from, the kid said cow, which the teacher said was the wrong answer because it comes from the bottle? Give me a break here, please! I mean common sense goes a long way. Frankly, while the entire series is poorly made as far as an average documentary goes, but that cow/bottle thing discredited it quite a bit more.

[W921]

Originally Posted by sealevel

i grew up beside that river . swam in it , fished it , we could always find a good swimming hole . not anymore farmers are are sucking water from it its entire length . most places its farmed right to the edge . if a salmon wanted to get clear to salmon lake he would have to walk .

Documentary said and showed these farmers were not getting water from the river but from drilled wells from aquifer that has lots of water.

[W921]

Originally Posted by fishnguy

Watched all three parts. Basically shows the rant of the farmers, justified or not (I don’t know because there was zero info presented from the other side; somehow natives are involved?).

The teacher asked where the milk comes from, the kid said cow, which the teacher said was the wrong answer because it comes from the bottle? Give me a break here, please! I mean common sense goes a long way. Frankly, while the entire series is poorly made as far as an average documentary goes, but that cow/bottle thing discredited it quite a bit more.

I think he was just trying to show how out of touch with reality some of these urban experts are.

Even if there was a water shortage government should not have handled it this way.
Example just shut off your water without warning.

So in Alberta we do actually have a water shortage but we keep issuing building permits and people keep moving here. So government should tasks water from farmers so it can keep letting in new Canadians?

[fishnguy]

Originally Posted by W921

I think he was just trying to show how out of touch with reality some of these urban experts are.

Even if there was a water shortage government should not have handled it this way.
Example just shut off your water without warning.

So in Alberta we do actually have a water shortage but we keep issuing building permits and people keep moving here. So government should tasks water from farmers so it can keep letting in new Canadians?

They haven’t talked to any experts. They didn’t really explain what the perceived issue is and why the water is being shut down. They did harass a bunch of “cops” though that clearly don’t have to have understanding of the subject matter in order to do the job they have been tasked with doing.

[Grizzly Adams1]

So in Alberta we do actually have a water shortage but we keep issuing building permits and people keep moving here. So government should tasks water from farmers so it can keep letting in new Canadians?

There's the problem, California managed to survive for many decades with what was clearly inadequate water resources, but population pressures are killing that.

[W921]

Originally Posted by fishnguy

They haven’t talked to any experts. They didn’t really explain what the perceived issue is and why the water is being shut down. They did harass a bunch of “cops” though that clearly don’t have to have understanding of the subject matter in order to do the job they have been tasked with doing.

I sincerely hope the NDP has no sinister,racist agenda but clearly the far off NDP government doesn't care less what any rural British Columbians think unless they are treaty people. It was the treaty people that complained about the farmers and as far as any normal rural people knows this was all it took for NDP in Victoria to suddenly stop irrigation

[W921]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

So in Alberta we do actually have a water shortage but we keep issuing building permits and people keep moving here. So government should tasks water from farmers so it can keep letting in new Canadians?

There's the problem, California managed to survive for many decades with what was clearly inadequate water resources, but population pressures are killing that.

Water in California is complicated . They actually used to have wars over water to supply LA.
California does have underground water but they are draining it and will run out and have ran out in some parts.
Lot of money involved with huge corporate farms. California is what we don't want to turn into. Not sustainable way they are doing things.
I dont have all answers. Just seems like government keeps coming after people like me.
Every other group seems to be more Canadian than me

[Strait Shooter]

Originally Posted by W921

Water in California is complicated . They actually used to have wars over water to supply LA.
California does have underground water but they are draining it and will run out and have ran out in some parts.
Lot of money involved with huge corporate farms. California is what we don't want to turn into. Not sustainable way they are doing things.
I dont have all answers. Just seems like government keeps coming after people like me.
Every other group seems to be more Canadian than me

I watched a great National Geographic documentary about the water situation in Calif. last week, called "Water and Power, A California Heist". It explains how a few wealthy investors posing as farmers took ownership of the depleted underground storage aquifers known as the Kern Water Bank in the parched San Joaquin Valley region after the state rerouted water from Northern Calif. to refill them.

The State built a canal to provide access to water to LA and the citizens of S. Calif., the investors bought up all the land above the aquifer and used the water reservoir as they saw fit, in essence commodifying the water. In doing so they turned their desert land into the most productive fruit and nut baring region in the US and made billions doing so, buying the politicians off along the way so they wouldn't change the rules in the process. Towns and citizens in this region were left with dry wells and zero access to water and have survived on trucked and bottled water for years. Imagine using a bucket of purchased water every time you need to flush the toilet, most people have moved away, making more land available.

Ironically the name of the company most responsible is called "The Wonderful Company", they use at least 120 billion gallons of free access water a year, which is enough to supply San Francisco's 852,000 residents for a decade.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Socialists go to bed and dream about new laws and rules they can make up. If they aren't making rules to "improve" the world they figure what's the point. Busy bodies on steroids. Kevin's and Karen's. Watched our PM implode when talking about the Bell layoffs, you just know he's trying to figure out how to insert himself.

I just hope they use his blackface portrait in the history books.