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11-07-2018, 02:37 PM
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Looks like we have a home grown terrorist
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11-07-2018, 02:43 PM
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Not every disgruntled citizen who wants to blow up a civic center is a 'terrorist'....or are they? Hard to know nowadays, everybody has to have a label. Strathcona County, might have just been an angry land owner who got tired of his neighbors complaining about his noise and getting tickets for it, who knows.....
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11-07-2018, 02:45 PM
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Yeah both my son and daughter are home with no school because of this. We were notified of no classes at 11 pm last night.
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11-07-2018, 02:58 PM
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Crazy scary stuff, glad it was only the perp who took the hit. Won't comment on who, what & why till we see who the guy is and more info comes out.
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11-07-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
Not every disgruntled citizen who wants to blow up a civic center is a 'terrorist'....or are they? Hard to know nowadays, everybody has to have a label. Strathcona County, might have just been an angry land owner who got tired of his neighbors complaining about his noise and getting tickets for it, who knows.....
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That's still considered a terrorist...in your example he's trying to terrorize his complaining neighbors.
To be a terrorist you don't have to be of a certain color or religious persuasion.
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11-07-2018, 03:03 PM
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Was wondering how long it would take for someone that's stuck on stupid to do something with Tannerite, won't be able to get that for much longer now, I suppose. It was just a matter of time.
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11-07-2018, 03:25 PM
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Did anyone read the full article and notice the line "police entered the building wearing flak jackets with large guns drawn"???
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11-07-2018, 03:37 PM
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Tannerite.
End of story. Tannerite.
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11-07-2018, 04:40 PM
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Damn I was going to buy a whole load of it and blow a couple beaver dams up this year
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11-07-2018, 04:52 PM
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Have any of the perpetrators' details been released?
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11-07-2018, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
That's still considered a terrorist...in your example he's trying to terrorize his complaining neighbors.
To be a terrorist you don't have to be of a certain color or religious persuasion.
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11-07-2018, 05:51 PM
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Whether he blew himself up intentionally or by accident, at least he's gone! Unfortunately taxpayers are left to pay for the mess left behind. Wish they could cut out the mess and cost find a quieter way….
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11-07-2018, 05:56 PM
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11-07-2018, 06:01 PM
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If that's true, this story just got a lot bigger!
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11-07-2018, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TimeOff
If that's true, this story just got a lot bigger!
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Details of one guy dead was known in the community last night. Many rumours float around.
Very few details coming out in the news?
Me personally feel like there is more. But who knows.
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11-07-2018, 06:10 PM
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Yeah both my son and daughter are home with no school because of this. We were notified of no classes at 11 pm last night.
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That's a good thing they are home safe and sound.
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11-07-2018, 06:17 PM
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If that's true, this story just got a lot bigger!
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"RCMP stressed they are not looking for any further suspects. No other injuries were reported"
"....and there is no further risk to the public.”
I'm going to go with the official public report for now, instead of a random post on Facebook by someone who may not even be using their real name.
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11-07-2018, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CBintheNorth
"RCMP stressed they are not looking for any further suspects. No other injuries were reported"
"....and there is no further risk to the public.”
I'm going to go with the official public report for now, instead of a random post on Facebook by someone who may not even be using their real name.
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Yeah, same here. Sure hope that's the case!
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11-07-2018, 06:35 PM
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The first explosion was at 6:30 the second was at 8:15 the guy was in the hospital when the second blast occurred ? If it was tannerite how did he set off the second charge ?
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11-07-2018, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TimeOff
Whether he blew himself up intentionally or by accident, at least he's gone! Unfortunately taxpayers are left to pay for the mess left behind. Wish they could cut out the mess and cost find a quieter way….
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There are 2 questions left.
1. If he blew himself in the car at 6:30 pm, how the second explosion happened at 8:15 pm? Thanks God no officers were injured in the second one according to police report.
2. Tomorrow 2 nearby schools are closed again- still looking for possible hidden bombs?
And when we hear the name? Would be it ISIS , Russians , or drug head as idiot like first two ?
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11-07-2018, 06:53 PM
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The one thing that I can’t understand is this: in order to actually go BOOM, tannerite has to be hit with a high speed projectile. Not even every handgun can make it go boom. It has to be a long gun.
So how were they planning on detonating it?
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11-07-2018, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KGB
The one thing that I can’t understand is this: in order to actually go BOOM, tannerite has to be hit with a high speed projectile. Not even every handgun can make it go boom. It has to be a long gun.
So how were they planning on detonating it?
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They? You saying he wasn’t alone?
Yesterday some info was about shotgun on the scene....
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11-07-2018, 06:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB
The one thing that I can’t understand is this: in order to actually go BOOM, tannerite has to be hit with a high speed projectile. Not even every handgun can make it go boom. It has to be a long gun.
So how were they planning on detonating it?
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There is defiantly something not being fully disclosed here. Powerful detonator of some sort. Timer or signal? Think the investigation is far from over, and most likely, we will not get full details once concluded. Probably better for everyone that way.
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11-07-2018, 06:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB
The one thing that I can’t understand is this: in order to actually go BOOM, tannerite has to be hit with a high speed projectile. Not even every handgun can make it go boom. It has to be a long gun.
So how were they planning on detonating it?
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He could have just shot it with a high-powered rifle. If you're willing to make a vehicle-borne improvised device you're probably willing to shoot a rifle.
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11-07-2018, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TimeOff
There is defiantly something not being fully disclosed here. Powerful detonator of some sort. Timer or signal? Think the investigation is far from over, and most likely, we will not get full details once concluded. Probably better for everyone that way.
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If you lived in Sherwood park you would hear yesterday as I from kids trapped in school , from friends and neibours living nearby or sitting in library when it started happening what happened.
Was funny to watch progress on news and press conferences during a day
Espessially funny was to hear that both Edmonton SWAT and RCMP called on fire alarm...Guess all other officers were busy making money for city with speed radars on the roads
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11-07-2018, 07:05 PM
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Or he wasn’t a very smart 21 year old kid. Didn’t know that tannerite doesn’t explode like a TNT stick. Even if you throw it to the fire.
This is the reason why you can buy tannerite at any hunting store off the shelves. It is super safe!
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11-07-2018, 07:13 PM
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Tannerite may be made unstable by adding certain sensitizers.
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11-07-2018, 07:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB
Or he wasn’t a very smart 21 year old kid. Didn’t know that tannerite doesn’t explode like a TNT stick. Even if you throw it to the fire.
This is the reason why you can buy tannerite at any hunting store off the shelves. It is super safe!
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It can be made to go off,was tried in two labs in the usa and both times boom.
In fact it's pretty simple,but that's as far as I go.
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11-07-2018, 08:14 PM
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Pure tnt does explode when burnt or fired up with a fast burning agent like a pentx detonator and even a bullet ,electric caps etc.
Dynamite you can burnt all day long in an open area cause it's made of nitroglycerine ,but it can be detonated with tnt,tannerite,severe pressure or if burnt in a tight steel container where it explodes under extreme temperature.And also bullet.
Some people think tnt and dynamite are the same that is why I broke it down.
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11-07-2018, 08:52 PM
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DARWIN trophy winner!! I'm sure he just headed to the SPGR for some after hour target practice and things went South
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