County regulations on dogs

parfleche · #1 05-20-2018, 09:51 PM

Concerning dogs at large in various counties etc in Alberta, has anyone ever brought up the subject to their locals about buying some media ( paper ) time and advising the public about the rules concerning dogs at large in Alberta?
It seems that every winter or every season we have conflict with at large dogs etc. As every thing else its a matter of public education . some would heed some would care less BUT the fact is after perhaps a couple years of buying a one page advert in various papers , the word might start to get out there ?
It would not have to mention its all about trapping because that would certainly start some criticizing the point of the whole matter and turn to bite us in the butt!
You have to realize that after every bad experience that gets pasted all over the media , It is US the trappers that pay the price!

parfleche · #2 05-22-2018, 01:30 PM

I guess this is Not a concern for most of you fellows on this site , I have it from someone I wont name BUT take very seriously that free hangers and at large dogs are getting a lot of lip time down east . ! Be very aware that the rest of the world is NOT sleeping during the summer when we trappers are taking it easy ! The onus is ON US to do something to educate the public concerning at large , farm , rural, acreages , AND weekend trail walkers ! WHY ? because it is us that will pay the price ! NO ONE ELSE is going to take the bull by the horns and work at it ! Constructive criticism and ideas are welcome , insults and trolling is not required , lets work together ! THANKS

expedition · #3 05-22-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by parfleche

Concerning dogs at large in various counties etc in Alberta, has anyone ever brought up the subject to their locals about buying some media ( paper ) time and advising the public about the rules concerning dogs at large in Alberta?
It seems that every winter or every season we have conflict with at large dogs etc. As every thing else its a matter of public education . some would heed some would care less BUT the fact is after perhaps a couple years of buying a one page advert in various papers , the word might start to get out there ?
It would not have to mention its all about trapping because that would certainly start some criticizing the point of the whole matter and turn to bite us in the butt!
You have to realize that after every bad experience that gets pasted all over the media , It is US the trappers that pay the price!

in regards for an advertising campaign have you tried talking to Anne coles? I don't know who else could get that going. I also feel that that might wake the wrong people to oppose our goals and lawful rights!

parfleche · #4 05-22-2018, 07:15 PM

ex
I understand your concerns BUT sooner or later we will have to face the music ! I believe I may have mentioned this to Anne , But she has a lot going on ! What I would suggest is that after consultation with the ATA executive , someone perhaps an individual could take the responsibility after having help from members in buying some media time ( and keeping the ATA out) so that this doesn't turn and bite us . as there are certain people who will try to discredit us any way they can !
At the moment they are doing tests on snaring down east , some is somewhat favorable , some not so much ! What we definitely do not need is more non targets getting entangled in our equipment ! The more we do the less we might worry !
Alberta is more or less at a 50 /50 stage right now , possibly less ,
We have to come up with a viable tool and a education system to be able to address any and all concerns by the powers that will make the decision s .
Not to be the one to cry wolf here BUT I am very concerned of the seemingly inaction ! Perhaps I am not hearing all that is going on in the background? None the less we should be vigilant !

Marty S · #5 05-22-2018, 09:25 PM

Public forums are not always the best mechanism for discussions of sensitive topics. I don't think you realize that. You know that Dwight and his boyfriends are always lurking, waiting in hopes of catching a scrap of anything, and running off to government to kick, scream, bite and cry.

parfleche · #6 05-22-2018, 09:57 PM

Well Marty YOU TELL ME where to talk about this! It seems everybody is sitting on their butts and nothing is being done , so don,t, preach to me what I may or may not say! Too many fellows are letting things slip by and when you mention this to anyone they look at you like a pig pi==sing in a snow bank ! Time is running out ! lets get this discussed at the meeting at the next rondevous! Fellows like yourself should be at the forefront ! You have a lot at stake here!
Apathy will get us nowhere! I,ll be darned If I will sit on my butt running scared of anyone and lose my privilege to trap!
You do realize all I,m suggesting is a public education blitz on county bylaws concerning canines! What is so sensitive about that ?

nube · #7 05-22-2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by parfleche

Well Marty YOU TELL ME where to talk about this! It seems everybody is sitting on their butts and nothing is being done , so don,t, preach to me what I may or may not say! Too many fellows are letting things slip by and when you mention this to anyone they look at you like a pig pi==sing in a snow bank ! Time is running out ! lets get this discussed at the meeting at the next rondevous! Fellows like yourself should be at the forefront ! You have a lot at stake here!
Apathy will get us nowhere! I,ll be darned If I will sit on my butt running scared of anyone and lose my privilege to trap!
You do realize all I,m suggesting is a public education blitz on county bylaws concerning canines! What is so sensitive about that ?

I felt the same way a year or so again Parfleche. Since then I have basically stopped posting my stuff. It's sad but all I got was dumped on after posting pics and asking questions that we should be discussing. It seems most want to hide instead of discuss and make things better.
I'm thinking the same as you and thinking our days are numbered. It won't even matter if we have the most humane practices in the world either. Too many of the anti crowd that bark louder while the rest of us put our heads in the sand.

HunterDave · #8 05-22-2018, 09:58 PM

At least one Trapping Awareness Seminar has already been conducted by a Southern Local where there was an interest:

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...ight=Awareness

I heard that the same semester was planned and may have already been conducted in the Calgary area.

If this type of seminar would be beneficial in your area then perhaps it should be offered to the people that would benefit the most from attending it. Otherwise, if it’s not an issue in an area, why create an issue that doesn’t exist?

parfleche · #9 05-22-2018, 10:09 PM

Hunter Dave I was not aware of what they had done ! But again , being as this was considered serious enough to buy time in a paper , why was this not conveyed to the rest of the trapping fraternity ? I see a problem here that the right arm doesn't know what the left one is doing ! In fact if I cant motivate the executive to take issue with this problem perhaps I will start setting out county rules and regulations on my own , and leave the trapping out of it ! ALL I am advocating is making the public aware of regulations concerning at large dogs , NOT necessarily to do with trapping ! IF a citizen loses a dog at large THAT is his lookout regardless of how it went down , car , other dogs , coyotes shooting etc!
IF it isn't an issue in one area , then why wait ! Once it happens it,s too late and we get the black eye !