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Old 04-07-2022, 07:24 PM
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Ya, the Antelope rules said "you may be able to hunt the Cypress Hills"

The way I read that, "you may also be charged"

Great organization on this all the way around
Same with being allowed to hunt on suffield for antelope
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Old 04-07-2022, 11:35 PM
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Questionable for the people that aren’t in the loop, but not vague enough for the president of apos. Since they bought them all
So Lloyd bought the tags himself?
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Old 04-08-2022, 12:35 AM
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So Lloyd bought the tags himself?
Lloyd McMahon is the president?
I’m asking because APOS no longer lists their directors or president.
Seems like a proud organization.
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Old 04-08-2022, 01:10 AM
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So Lloyd bought the tags himself?
I can't find the listing any more but the buyer had a screen name of GreatWhite1 or something like that. If I remember correctly, GreatWhite1 bought all three tags (moose, antelope, turkey)
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Old 04-08-2022, 08:22 AM
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I can't find the listing any more but the buyer had a screen name of GreatWhite1 or something like that. If I remember correctly, GreatWhite1 bought all three tags (moose, antelope, turkey)
Yep, it was Greatnorth1 from spruce grove that won them all
The final bidders was then and the guy from iron river who has bought the auction ministers elk tag a couple times.

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Old 04-08-2022, 12:23 PM
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Lloyd McMahon is the president?
I’m asking because APOS no longer lists their directors or president.
Seems like a proud organization.
Yep…. He’s the president

I’ve only met the man once, he attended our GOABC AGM 2 weeks ago. He’s interesting…… to say the least. Definitely thinks very highly of himself
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Old 04-08-2022, 01:03 PM
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So the president of apos got the 3 new minister tags to happen in a timely enough fashion that he was able to purchase all of them? Is that what I'm hearing? And we are happy with how they are operating?
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Old 04-08-2022, 01:10 PM
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So the president of apos got the 3 new minister tags to happen in a timely enough fashion that he was able to purchase all of them? Is that what I'm hearing? And we are happy with how they are operating?
It's almost like there's a bit of a conflict of interest? lol
Hard to believe an upstanding organization like apos, led Alberta's most notorious poacher, would allow that to happen.
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Old 04-08-2022, 01:25 PM
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So the president of apos got the 3 new minister tags to happen in a timely enough fashion that he was able to purchase all of them? Is that what I'm hearing? And we are happy with how they are operating?
And instead of a raffle they held an auction that wasn't promoted or advertised to drive up interest and prices. Sounds reasonable.
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Old 04-08-2022, 02:31 PM
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until apos is changed dramatically, i'll never participate or support anything to do with that organization. Fox's in the hen-house.
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it's almost like there's a bit of a conflict of interest? Lol
hard to believe an upstanding organization like apos, led alberta's most notorious poacher, would allow that to happen.
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and instead of a raffle they held an auction that wasn't promoted or advertised to drive up interest and prices. Sounds reasonable.
yup
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Old 04-08-2022, 02:51 PM
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You guys are good a laugh. Just because a guy has a handle “GreatWhite” doesn’t mean great white holdings lol.

Lloyd is NOT the president of APOS. A gentleman I personally know has been the president for the last 4 years.
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Old 04-08-2022, 03:17 PM
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You guys are good a laugh. Just because a guy has a handle “GreatWhite” doesn’t mean great white holdings lol.
You're kidding, right?

Lloyd is NOT the president of APOS. A gentleman I personally know has been the president for the last 4 years.
You've got a guy three posts up, who also happens to be an outfitter, that talked to him two weeks ago saying that he is in fact the president. If I was betting I'd go with torkdiesel on this one. Also seems odd that an organization like apos doesn't list their executive on their website anymore. I know they used to, even when they had another poacher for president, although slightly less renowned than Lloyd lol
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Old 04-08-2022, 03:18 PM
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Email them Davey. Then post reply. What you want to bet?
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Old 04-08-2022, 03:27 PM
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Email them Davey. Then post reply. What you want to bet?
Why would I waste my time?

A. The fact they don't name their executive on their website anymore speaks volumes.
B. torkdiesel and I have definitely disagreed on a few things in various threads, but I don't think he's a liar.
C. I don't care.
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Old 04-08-2022, 03:34 PM
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Why would I waste my time?

A. The fact they don't name their executive on their website anymore speaks volumes.
B. torkdiesel and I have definitely disagreed on a few things in various threads, but I don't think he's a liar.
C. I don't care.
I will standby. Torks mistaken, it’s ok. Let me know when you receive that email.
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Old 04-08-2022, 03:51 PM
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You guys are good a laugh. Just because a guy has a handle “GreatWhite” doesn’t mean great white holdings lol.

Lloyd is NOT the president of APOS. A gentleman I personally know has been the president for the last 4 years.
Who is the president now ?

I heard Lloyd was last year, then he showed up at our AGM two weeks ago as a representative of APOS with Jeanna so I just assumed he was. Traditionally the president comes from APOS, not just a random guy.

He didn’t say he was the president, I just assumed he was.
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Old 04-08-2022, 04:01 PM
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Who is the president now ?

I heard Lloyd was last year, then he showed up at our AGM two weeks ago as a representative of APOS with Jeanna so I just assumed he was. Traditionally the president comes from APOS, not just a random guy.

He didn’t say he was the president, I just assumed he was.
Apparently it's a secret.
Apparently it's not Lloyd.
Apparently you'll have to email apos if you want to know.
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Old 04-08-2022, 05:08 PM
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Who is the president now ?

I heard Lloyd was last year, then he showed up at our AGM two weeks ago as a representative of APOS with Jeanna so I just assumed he was. Traditionally the president comes from APOS, not just a random guy.

He didn’t say he was the president, I just assumed he was.
For years it’s been Corey Jarvis.
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Old 04-08-2022, 06:21 PM
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For years it’s been Corey Jarvis.
So is LM still on the apos board of directors?
Not that it lends credibility to the organization, or legitimizes what appears happened with the new msl permits, if he’s only a director and not the actual president.
Since you seem to be in the loop, and as mentioned earlier they’ve taken it off their website, maybe you can answer? Of course it’s understandable if you don’t want to.
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Old 04-08-2022, 06:54 PM
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So is LM still on the apos board of directors?
Not that it lends credibility to the organization, or legitimizes what appears happened with the new msl permits, if he’s only a director and not the actual president.
Since you seem to be in the loop, and as mentioned earlier they’ve taken it off their website, maybe you can answer? Of course it’s understandable if you don’t want to.
You will have to contact them for more info.
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Old 04-08-2022, 11:54 PM
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I think everyone is focusing on the wrong point here.

AEP got the contract to APOS, good for them for making it happen. Shows that they are organized enough to get it done. I don't fault them for this one bit.

Why didn't AEP get the contract to AFGA or even let them know that the tags were available for raffle if AFGA was able to get organized in time (that is up for debate since the Elk, Mule Deer, and Sheep raffle still isn't available)

To me, this isn't about the fact that APOS was able to get organized enough to take the tags to auction.

It is about the fact that AFGA wasn't aware they tags we available and going to auction until I let them know and sent them the link.

It is about how AEP and the Ministers office didn't present AFGA with a contract for the raffle tags.

It seems like everyone takes every opportunity to bash APOS when the real culprit here is AEP.
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Old 04-09-2022, 12:00 AM
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Wonder if there going to find time to raffle the three they've put out for years... used to be out in January when they were auctioned.
I also raised this concern with AEP. I don't understand why the tags are sold in January but the raffle is drawn in August.

To me, this gives the auction buyer an unfair 7 month advantage over the resident raffle winner.

2-3 weeks doesn't give a lot of scouting opportunity if you draw the mule deer tag and are looking for a giant velvet deer.

Also, family time, vacation time all come into play and planning needs to occur for any of these tags.

Further to that, if you win and have the means to hire an outfitter (and want to) the auction buyer had a 7 month head start on talking to and securing the resources required.

Seems fair........
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Old 04-09-2022, 07:43 AM
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Did afga even get the tags out to the winners before the season started?
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Old 04-09-2022, 07:58 AM
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Did afga even get the tags out to the winners before the season started?
Nope, we didn’t get the elk tag until sept. 3rd . We have prairie zones close to home we couldn’t hunt on opening day. We also had a bit harder time getting permission on some places because this draw came out later then the regular draws. So places were already full. We are still obviously very grateful for the tag and it was incredible opportunity to hunt different zones
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Old 04-09-2022, 08:18 AM
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Nope, we didn’t get the elk tag until sept. 3rd . We have prairie zones close to home we couldn’t hunt on opening day. We also had a bit harder time getting permission on some places because this draw came out later then the regular draws. So places were already full. We are still obviously very grateful for the tag and it was incredible opportunity to hunt different zones
That’s disappointing, you should have had the tag well before any elk seasons opened
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Old 04-09-2022, 08:58 AM
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Did afga even get the tags out to the winners before the season started?
Would that not be AEP’s fault for not getting the tags out sooner?
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Old 04-09-2022, 09:13 AM
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Would that not be AEP’s fault for not getting the tags out sooner?
Not sure who would be at fault
I bet if you asked, you would get a lot of finger pointing and blaming someone else
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Old 04-09-2022, 09:26 AM
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Nope, we didn’t get the elk tag until sept. 3rd . We have prairie zones close to home we couldn’t hunt on opening day. We also had a bit harder time getting permission on some places because this draw came out later then the regular draws. So places were already full. We are still obviously very grateful for the tag and it was incredible opportunity to hunt different zones
That’s brutal
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Old 04-09-2022, 10:22 AM
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Did the moose and Pronghorn tag come out of the Outfitter Allocation?
If not, APOS has no business managing these licenses.
The Turkey license obviously did not.

Get APOS the heck out of selling RESIDENT ALLOCATIONS!


I've never seen a delegated authority be so secretive in hiding who their executive are.
This purposeful hiding in the closet tells us that APOS has decided to cover their tracks by walking in the dark.
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Old 04-09-2022, 01:03 PM
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Going back to 2013 see the link provided by Walking Buffalo that details the sordid history of Lloyd McMahon and his nasty outfit.

http://www.canlii.org/en/search/sear...Holdings%22%20[/B]


So in the ensuing 9 years since that post the situation of APOS and Lloyd McMahon has not improved.

Just sad.
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