China bans all Canadian meat before G20

[jungleboy]

Maybe they would prefer some quality lab produced "beyond meat"


https://edmontonsun.com/news/nationa...5-c4e854283572

OTTAWA — The Chinese Embassy said Tuesday it has asked Canada to suspend all meat exports, a surprise move that comes amid the diplomatic dispute over the December arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver.

The latest Chinese move comes as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is set to depart Wednesday for a G20 leaders’ summit in Japan, where he is expected to rely on U.S. President Donald Trump to raise the plight of two detained Canadians during a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

The embassy said in a statement to The Canadian Press on Tuesday that this latest move follows Chinese customs inspectors’ detection of residue from a restricted feed additive, called ractopamine, in a batch of Canadian pork products. The additive has permitted uses in Canada but is banned in China.

“The subsequent investigation revealed that the official veterinary health certificates attached to the batch of pork exported to China were counterfeit and the number of those forgery certificates was up to 188. The Canadian side believes that this incident is criminal offence,” said the embassy statement.

“These forged certificates were sent to the Chinese regulatory authorities through Canadian official certificate notification channel, which reflects that the Canadian meat export supervision system exists obvious safety loopholes.”

China is therefore taking “urgent preventive measures” to protect Chinese customers and has asked the Canadian government to suspend all meat-export certificates, the embassy said.

“We hope the Canadian side would attach great importance to this incident, complete the investigation as soon as possible and take effective measures to ensure the safety of food exported to China in a more responsible manner.”

Agriculture Minister Marie-Claude Bibeau said in a statement that the Canadian Food and Inspection Agency “identified an issue involving inauthentic export certificates” and “has informed appropriate law enforcement agencies.”

Bibeau said the agency was investigating a “technical issue” and was working with industry partners and Chinese officials.

A report in the newspaper Journal de Quebec, which first reported the story, quotes a Montreal-based diplomat with the Chinese consulate-general as saying the ban is temporary.

China detained former diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael Spavor and sentenced another Canadian to death in an apparent attempt to pressure for Meng’s release.

China has also stopped imports of Canadian canola and has suspended import permits for three pork producers.

Bibeau defended the quality of the Canadian meat industry.

“Our government will always stand shoulder to shoulder with our producers and workers, who export the finest products around the world,” she said.

“The Canadian food system is one of the best in the world and we are confident in the safety of Canadian products and Canadian exports.”

The Conservatives blamed Trudeau.

“Conservatives know that Canadian farmers produce some of the highest-quality meat in the world. Any assertion by the Chinese government to the contrary is both false and baseless,” said a statement from Tory agriculture critic Luc Berthold. “It is clear that this is not an issue of food safety, but a political issue caused by Justin Trudeau’s incompetence and weakness on the world stage.”

Berthold said Trudeau has to “personally raise this issue” with Xi in at the G20 meeting and demand the trade barriers be lifted.

Livestock producers are worried.

Chad MacPherson, general manager of the Saskatchewan Stock Growers Association, said China’s action will affect producers across the country.


“This is very disappointing news to hear, that the government of China would be taking these measures,” he said in Regina.

“We feel that we produce some of the safest food in the world. We have very rigorous health inspections and protocols and all the scientific measures that we can to ensure that we produce safe food.”

MacPherson said China’s concerns are unfounded.

“This is just more punitive actions from the government of China in reaction to the arrest of the Huawei executive,” he said.

“We can work with our federal government to try to get the consulate back on the ground in China and try to get this issue resolved. It is going to impact the bottom line of all livestock producers in Canad

[sns2]

Should never have arrested that woman. You don't poke a grizzly. Now Canadian farmers pay. Big time. Stupid.

[wwbirds]

If our leaders had any balls at all they would not allow any imports from China until they learn not to use trade as blackmail and free the canadian businessmen that are being held without due cause. Instead twinkle toes will probably attend the g20 meeting dressed as "Confucious" continuing to make Canada the laughing stock of the world.

[CBintheNorth]

Trudeau honestly couldn't care less...
Even though there are tons of swine in Ottawa, there are no pig farmers, or any other types of farmers for that matter, so it doesn't really affect him.
Until October.

[Kurt505]

Put her on death row.

I’m bitter. I filled a $200k lawsuit against a nasty witch who’s pulling the exact same tactics.

[vcmm]

Canada should not allow anything from there in our country..

[bdub]

We got duped into an economic war with a large customer who has a moral compass not like our own. Why we didn’t let the US take out their own garbage is beyond me. We have no pull with China. They are going to continue to hammer us over this Hauwai thing even if the US and China agreed to a trade deal tomorrow. Unfortunately our current leaders are proven idiots, the US and China think we are fools, and Canada is inconsequential to the big picture.

[landowner]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

Trudeau honestly couldn't care less...
Even though there are tons of swine in Ottawa, there are no pig farmers, or any other types of farmers for that matter, so it doesn't really affect him.
Until October.

So true ... most ag products that. Are exported to pacific regions come from western Canada. He couldn’t care less not a word. But if it concerns auto workers, or Quebec airplane employees, he gets load and proud

[Oldan Grumpi]

I think some are missing the real issue here.

We arrested the woman in question in respect of our extradition treaty with the U.S.

The U.S. has been dragging their feet on taking her, because as long as we have her, we bear the brunt of Chinese retaliation. For Trump, it’s a win/win. She’s in custody, and we take the punishment on the Americans behalf....he’s hurting both Canada and China at no cost to himself.

It’s time we quit kissing yankee a*s and stood up for ourselves; they’ve had plenty of time to take her if they want her. Our spineless Little Potato should just apologize to her for the inconvenience and let her go.

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by sns2

Should never have arrested that woman. You don't poke a grizzly. Now Canadian farmers pay. Big time. Stupid.

Ya, we should totally give in to their economic blackmail/terrorism, and subvert our judiciary at their whim!

I'm being sarcastic, as I'm surprised you'd give up Canadian sovereignty so easily.

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

Ya, we should totally give in to their economic blackmail/terrorism, and subvert our judiciary at their whim!

I'm being sarcastic, as I'm surprised you'd give up Canadian sovereignty so easily.

No doubt. I am disappointed to read a comment like the one you quoted. It suggests that we should do whatever China asks so we don't enrage them. Last time I checked this is Canada and we don't bow down to anyone especially because of fear. Do you run from a grizzly or stand tall and look it in the eyes? We have rule of law. Without it, we don't have Canada.

[ghostguy6]

Originally Posted by AndrewM

Last time I checked this is Canada and we don't bow down to anyone especially because of fear. Do you run from a grizzly or stand tall and look it in the eyes? We have rule of law. Without it, we don't have Canada.

The old Canada would have stood its ground. Now that Sparkle Socks is in charge we as a whole bend over because of the decisions he makes. The name Canada means nothing anymore. Canada was not only neutered but given a full sex change the second Trudue was put in power. If he really wanted to do some good he would demand that Trump take custody of Meng Wanzhou or Canada releases her immediately. He would also pull his balls out of his purse and do something to actually help the economy but we all know that wont happen. I'm glad my grandfather passed away. As someone who fought for this country he would be horrified to see what has become of Canada. Im ashamed to admit Im a Canadian.

The only good thing that could come from this is the cost of meat goes down for the average consumer in the stores.

[CaberTosser]

Time to load up the freezer with bacon and pork chops and get to building some electronics factories where we can manufacture products that don’t have Chinese spyware built-in.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by sns2

Should never have arrested that woman. You don't poke a grizzly. Now Canadian farmers pay. Big time. Stupid.

No, we have an obligation under a treaty with the US we are committed to honor. Our Bad for making us a vassal of the Chinese. It was the Canadians who made the Chinese aware of the forged certificates. Our Bad again.

Grizz

[birdbeast]

Originally Posted by sns2

Should never have arrested that woman. You don't poke a grizzly. Now Canadian farmers pay. Big time. Stupid.

We have to follow the treaties we sign. What we should be doing is all Canadians quit buying products Made in China. If the government can't react, the public should. I don't buy Chinese goods anymore.

[birdbeast]

I believe it might change the balance if we revoke her bail and put her in jail, like the Canadians being detained. If she is sitting in jail instead of her multi-million dollar mansion China might be motivated to play nice. We are a lawful country dealing with a lawless regime.

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by birdbeast

I believe it might change the balance if we revoke her bail and put her in jail, like the Canadians being detained. If she is sitting in jail instead of her multi-million dollar mansion China might be motivated to play nice. We are a lawful country dealing with a lawless regime.

Not a bad idea, I’m sure that some loophole could be found. Especially egregious is the Chinese governments attempts at interference with our legal processes. They’ve crossed numerous lines such that she should be in protective custody for her own safety and to ensure she does not flee the country. Maybe put her in a jail with a fentanyl problem (ironic, considering that the fentanyl also originates from China)

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by birdbeast

I believe it might change the balance if we revoke her bail and put her in jail, like the Canadians being detained. If she is sitting in jail instead of her multi-million dollar mansion China might be motivated to play nice. We are a lawful country dealing with a lawless regime.

That the tough part. We have laws and processes to follow and it's dangerous to set precedents. Couldn't imagine if Trudeau had powers to change laws without checks and balances! Extradition takes time and she is fighting the extradition in the court system which means it will take even longer. Sad part is I think when she is sent to the states, Trump will sign an executive order and send her back.

[artie]

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/kello...na-dan-meagher


Buy Canadian go to farmers markets.

[Kurt505]

The unfortunate part is, Canada’s population is 37 million, China’s capitol, Beijing has a population of 21 million.....

If Canada boycotts Chinese goods, the effects on China will be minuscule. Canada on the other hand has 64% of its GDP dependent on exports and China is/was a big client.

I’m all for eliminating all trade with China, they are used to using dirty tactics to get their way, by no means an ideal trade partner. Sourcing new, more trustworthy trade partners should be a priority moving forward in 2020.

[IAMhunt]

Originally Posted by birdbeast

I believe it might change the balance if we revoke her bail and put her in jail, like the Canadians being detained. If she is sitting in jail instead of her multi-million dollar mansion China might be motivated to play nice. We are a lawful country dealing with a lawless regime.

So far, the most precise and factual post in this thread ! ***

[Kim473]

As consumers, we can stop purchasing made in China products ! Just read the label, if it says made in China, Don't purchase it.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by sns2

Should never have arrested that woman. You don't poke a grizzly. Now Canadian farmers pay. Big time. Stupid.

Actually we have a legal agreement with the US to do exactly what we did. It was that a**hat down south that started it, but Canada has a tendency to follow the law. This situation just shows why we shouldn't deal with China cuz this is how they operate. If you base a business model on dealing with them, it's just a matter of time til they'll screw you over.

[KC1]

Originally Posted by sns2

Should never have arrested that woman. You don't poke a grizzly. Now Canadian farmers pay. Big time. Stupid.

Exactly.

[Blaster]

The Chinese must really be afraid of what she might say if and when the Americans question her because they are sure laying down the pressure to have her released.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Blaster

The Chinese must really be afraid of what she might say if and when the Americans question her because they are sure laying down the pressure to have her released.

This just out this morning:

https://edmontonsun.com/news/world/h...8-9e5cfecc6962

What a deceitful bunch. Lie right to your face and think they’re getting away with it. Hard to believe they think the rest of the world is so naive they’d believe the Execs at huawei had no idea huawei was working with their military.

I went in to look at a new iPhone the other day and the agents that own the Bell store are Chinese, I couldn’t beleive how hard they were trying to promote the huawei phone “oh it’s got the best camera on the market”. After seeing what’s going on here I would never by any smart electronic from China. After I seen what’s going on here I’m making a conscious effort never to buy anything from China.

I used to think spying was something made up in Hollywood, I used to trust that we are safe, but this situation has opened up my eyes as to how wrong I was. I hope Trump get ahold of this chick and exposes what’s been going on.

[AndrewM]

I find it ironic how technology is designed in north america then companies get China to build the products yet complain when the Chinese rip them off and resell items as cheap knockoffs. Sure Chinese products are getting better manufactured but that is only due to North American companies doing the training and ensuring quality standards are met. We are our own problems. Not just the consumers but the companies as well. Our greed has helped China become the economic powerhouse they have become.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by AndrewM

I find it ironic how technology is designed in north america then companies get China to build the products yet complain when the Chinese rip them off and resell items as cheap knockoffs. Sure Chinese products are getting better manufactured but that is only due to North American companies doing the training and ensuring quality standards are met. We are our own problems. Not just the consumers but the companies as well. Our greed has helped China become the economic powerhouse they have become.

Bang on. Canada and the USA created this problem with China. North America has sacrificed families, jobs, and farmers. Just to get screwed over by the Chinese. There is nothing that comes from China that can’t be produced within the confines of North America. We need governments that are willing to grow our own economies first. We need governments that only trade what is surplus to our needs and at a good price which benefits its citizens.

Why are we trading with a country that doesn’t give a **** about it carbon emissions or treats it’s people poorly? Why do we support these tyrants?

BW

[Kurt505]

I see huawei is running commercial ads on tv pretty hard to promote their phones. Any Canadian, or North American for that matter who purchases a huawei phone should be slapped upside da head! It’s like spitting in the face of our producers.